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Post by Keeper on May 3, 2016 22:11:29 GMT -5
Thoughts on Georgia Soccer deciding that next years Under 15s/2002 spring season will not count towards promotion/relegation? I So those younger players who are 8th graders will lose an entire season of competitive soccer all because the big boy clubs supposedly couldn't/wouldn't be able to field enough teams.
Also the flip flop move of saying Under 9s/10s will play 7v7, and Under 11s/12s playing 9v9 next season instead of the original plan of waiting till 2017/18 to implement this move.
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 4, 2016 6:59:09 GMT -5
It's ridiculous. And how do you come to this two weeks before tryouts? Georgia Soccer is only there for a few clubs. There is no sense having a state association that doesn't look out for the best interests of all of it's members.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 4, 2016 7:24:38 GMT -5
Was there a meeting this week?
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Post by fan on May 4, 2016 8:03:15 GMT -5
Thoughts on Georgia Soccer deciding that next years Under 15s/2002 spring season will not count towards promotion/relegation? I So those younger players who are 8th graders will lose an entire season of competitive soccer all because the big boy clubs supposedly couldn't/wouldn't be able to field enough teams. Also the flip flop move of saying Under 9s/10s will play 7v7, and Under 11s/12s playing 9v9 next season instead of the original plan of waiting till 2017/18 to implement this move. Does this mean they'll look only at the fall U15 season to determine placement for the next U16 fall season no matter what happens to the standings in the spring? Why is this a big club/small club issue? Are big clubs concerned that more of their players will be playing high school ball than small clubs?
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Post by Keeper on May 4, 2016 11:54:42 GMT -5
Was there a meeting this week? Yes, they meet with about 15-20 of the top clubs at the Georgia Soccer office. It's even promoted on their Facebook.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 4, 2016 11:56:17 GMT -5
Was there a meeting this week? Yes, they meet with about 15-20 of the top clubs at the Georgia Soccer office. It's even promoted on their Facebook. Yea, saw the pic this morning. Is there somewhere we can find what was discussed?
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Post by Keeper on May 4, 2016 11:57:56 GMT -5
Thoughts on Georgia Soccer deciding that next years Under 15s/2002 spring season will not count towards promotion/relegation? I So those younger players who are 8th graders will lose an entire season of competitive soccer all because the big boy clubs supposedly couldn't/wouldn't be able to field enough teams. Also the flip flop move of saying Under 9s/10s will play 7v7, and Under 11s/12s playing 9v9 next season instead of the original plan of waiting till 2017/18 to implement this move. Does this mean they'll look only at the fall U15 season to determine placement for the next U16 fall season no matter what happens to the standings in the spring? Why is this a big club/small club issue? Are big clubs concerned that more of their players will be playing high school ball than small clubs? Yes that's correct. The spring season will be exhibition like games. And a majority of the big clubs were the only ones opposed to having it count for promotion/relegation. Even with stipulations such as being able to club pass 5-7 players instead of 3.
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Post by Keeper on May 4, 2016 11:59:44 GMT -5
Yes, they meet with about 15-20 of the top clubs at the Georgia Soccer office. It's even promoted on their Facebook. Yea, saw the pic this morning. Is there somewhere we can find what was discussed? Our DOC was there and discussed it with us yesterday. So I would think most DOC would be willing to share the info too.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 4, 2016 12:11:08 GMT -5
Does this mean they'll look only at the fall U15 season to determine placement for the next U16 fall season no matter what happens to the standings in the spring? Why is this a big club/small club issue? Are big clubs concerned that more of their players will be playing high school ball than small clubs? Yes that's correct. The spring season will be exhibition like games. And a majority of the big clubs were the only ones opposed to having it count for promotion/relegation. Even with stipulations such as being able to club pass 5-7 players instead of 3. I don't think that spring should count towards promotion/relegation...it never does. In the spring of U15 half the kids will be in HS and it wouldn't be fair to ask them to choose what to play in order to keep the team competitive. Other than U13 spring season for teams that made RPL in the fall, spring has never counted for anything has it?
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Post by jash on May 4, 2016 18:37:52 GMT -5
Yes, they meet with about 15-20 of the top clubs at the Georgia Soccer office. It's even promoted on their Facebook. Well, that doesn't sit well with those of us at the non-top clubs. Decisions being made and policy being set outside the normal sanctioned methods?
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Post by infoguy on May 5, 2016 6:07:09 GMT -5
Our DOC was there and discussed it with us yesterday. So I would think most DOC would be willing to share the info too. I'll have to ask him tonight about it Anything? Starting to get spoiled by your awesome information gathering ability ...
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Post by infoguy on May 5, 2016 6:07:50 GMT -5
Yes, they meet with about 15-20 of the top clubs at the Georgia Soccer office. It's even promoted on their Facebook. Well, that doesn't sit well with those of us at the non-top clubs. Decisions being made and policy being set outside the normal sanctioned methods? It's wrong, but I'm not shocked.
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Post by Kick Goals 10 on May 5, 2016 7:41:48 GMT -5
In regards to the U15’s. We meet with our DOC, whom was part of the meeting. They are going to have a spring season. I specifically asked if this was picked up by GA Soccer. His answer was yes. Does it count? IDK. The problem is with the 9th graders that will be playing HS. The club is dead against JV, and non-starters on varsity. They said that they will reach out to local HS coaches and come up with some type of compromise. On the other hand, they want us to commit up front, how many days per week we will be practicing. How do we do this when we have no idea what the HS schedule will be? Or, training schedule. I went through this last year, as my daughter played JV in the 8th grade. We did not miss one training session. Did not play in (2) HS games, and left one at ½ time. Sure makes a bunch of driving, and time on the practice fields. So….here we go again.
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 5, 2016 7:58:25 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see what clubs do for fees now for the u15s, do they only charge for half a year. (similar to current u15s). Why are we changing to birth year again.....
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Post by Kick Goals 10 on May 5, 2016 8:01:46 GMT -5
They are charging a full year with a couple $100 discount. They are talking about playing about 9 games, instead of 11-12 games.
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Post by infoguy on May 5, 2016 9:44:02 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see what clubs do for fees now for the u15s, do they only charge for half a year. (similar to current u15s). Why are we changing to birth year again..... Won't next fall's and spring's u15s be primarily 8th graders? I think yes.
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Post by spectator on May 5, 2016 9:58:08 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see what clubs do for fees now for the u15s, do they only charge for half a year. (similar to current u15s). Why are we changing to birth year again..... Won't next fall's and spring's u15s be primarily 8th graders? I think yes. If by U15, you're talking about the 2002's, then no - all from January through August 31 will be rising 9th graders with the possibility to play in high school therefore not needing spring season. Traditionally all spring seasons have stopped after U14 in the past - maybe the September-December birthdays in that group were playing JV or some eighth graders were playing but for the most part, the old 'U14' as it was known was mostly 8th graders. So they're making a spring season for those 2002's born after the September 1 school cut off date - eighth graders. Seems silly to add a spring season for the minority number of players in the year now - most will be already in high school and having the HS soccer conflict to club. Then again, this U-whatever designation and calendar year thing seems to keep changing. From the best of my recollection for Classic/Athena teams it's 1998s - U19 1999s - U18 2000s - U17 2001s - U16 2002s - U15 2003s - U14 2004s - U13 That about right?
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Post by SoccerMom on May 5, 2016 10:13:05 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see what clubs do for fees now for the u15s, do they only charge for half a year. (similar to current u15s). Why are we changing to birth year again..... Our club is not charging the same for U15...the top teams i think its between $320-450 less than the U14's. 2nd teams and below is more than half off.
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