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Post by guest on May 30, 2016 14:59:46 GMT -5
Any thoughts on attending this event in Statesboro? 1st time visitor this year.
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Post by u2dadatlanta on May 30, 2016 19:52:08 GMT -5
Any thoughts on attending this event in Statesboro? 1st time visitor this year. No rooms as of today for a supposedly important showcase event at a hotel above 2 stars. Nearly 100% of the teams are from the Atlanta area so what does Georgia Soccer decide to do? Send everyone three and a half hours away to a city with very few quality hotel rooms. For the later game some will be able to drive down and come back. I can understand those things take up a a lot of space with 16 Fields but not Statesboro for this. Friends and family of children on FF teams? You are out of luck. Please dont have the temerity to suggest dorm rooms. Id like to have Ga soccer admin explain why 7.5 RT hours in a car helps attract fans of the sport at this stage of the year. I'll be waiting for an answer
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Post by guest on May 30, 2016 20:00:25 GMT -5
Anyone ever stay in the dorm?
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 30, 2016 20:00:46 GMT -5
Have we verified that 100% of the teams are from the Atl.
It seemed like 100% of the teams in Columbus were from the Atl or north of Atlanta.
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Post by u2dadatlanta on May 30, 2016 20:11:13 GMT -5
Have we verified that 100% of the teams are from the Atl. It seemed like 100% of the teams in Columbus were from the Atl or north of Atlanta. Girls 13-17. 19 of 20 from metro quick look. I could sort of understand if this was a city the size of Jacksonville or Gainesville in Florida. Wall smaller than cities like Tampa and Orlando each has plenty of hotels. Obviously Statesboro is not like that. There are few hotels the drive is long, there isn't much to do and it's a major inconvenience for families and friends who want to watch. For those at Georgia Soccer thinks it's a great place I want to see every one of you down there next weekend no exceptions
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 30, 2016 20:18:11 GMT -5
The 2 night minimum is robbery. The dorms aren't bad. But big but
The mattresses are absolutely terrible. Plastic. Awful.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 30, 2016 22:08:23 GMT -5
We stayed in dorms last year and liked it. Prices are a little higher this year, but still reasonable. We will stay in the dorms again, every room has its own bathroom. It's like a big apartment with private rooms with their own bathrooms each.
Hotels will open up tomorrow when teams that didn't qualify start cancelling. Our team booked hotel back in April as I'm sure most teams did.
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Post by u2dadatlanta on May 31, 2016 7:11:23 GMT -5
We will agree to disagree on dorms. They were terrible.
Will GA soccer listen to its constituents?
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Post by SoccerMom on May 31, 2016 7:25:03 GMT -5
We will agree to disagree on dorms. They were terrible. Will GA soccer listen to its constituents? Lol...it depends what you're hoping to get out of it. The only issue that I have now is that the GA Soccer website stated that they had 2-bedroom ones and they actually don't. 3-bedroom is the smallest and its $150, last year the 3 bedroom one was $105. May actually book a hotel instead because of that
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Post by u2dadatlanta on May 31, 2016 8:25:48 GMT -5
We will agree to disagree on dorms. They were terrible. Will GA soccer listen to its constituents? Lol...it depends what you're hoping to get out of it. The only issue that I have now is that the GA Soccer website stated that they had 2-bedroom ones and they actually don't. 3-bedroom is the smallest and its $150, last year the 3 bedroom one was $105. May actually book a hotel instead because of that So there is the rub. No rooms to be had at a decent hotel. this is a high-level event. So why AR athletes who need to play a good game in a garden-variety nondescript twin bed in a dorm. This isn't Mississippi for goodness sake. Birmingham, Greenville and Chattanooga are all closer to Atlanta then Statesboro. Believe it or not most parents of these kids are working families with more than one child. After enduring a season of tournaments costs, gas, hotel rooms, and leaving work early to force March 500 families to Statesboro makes no sense. This is not to mention risks during the travel of 7 hours round trip for families and kids. the teams are stuck there this year so we'll have to make the best of it. It is just tone deaf on the part of Georgia Soccer. I just don't understand why what is arguably the Marquee event for Georgia Soccer essentially sent to the boonies. Could you imagine the finals back to back to back at 4 sample Kennesaw State University If the administrators there are reading this, I better see every one of you in Statesboro.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 31, 2016 8:33:09 GMT -5
I agree with you in the sense that it needs to be closer, its not nearly as many games or people as Columbus so the amount of fields argument is not good here. I am not sure who decided to move it there since last year but I am sure there is a kickback involved.
Im just trying to stay positive about it, trust me I would love to not have to spend hotel 2 weekends in a row. It had said TBA on website and I was hopeful that they would bring it back to this side of town but it wasn't.
Im not sure if they care or not that we have an issue with this every year, maybe the clubs needs to bring it up at the yearly meetings. I understand their argument for round robin but not for final four. Hopefully they will move it to Lakepoint next year
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Post by Keeper on May 31, 2016 9:50:57 GMT -5
To everyone that's complaining about Columbus and Statesboro, do you realize other venues have been given the chance to bid on state cup? And that no one in the metro wants to host it and deal with all of Memorial Day weekend & next weekend logistics that comes with it. Ksu has summer session started and I believe other events based around them that keeps them from hosting. I mean if Atl United gets their practice facility built then that's an option but until then there's no good place in the state to host it.
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Post by u2dadatlanta on May 31, 2016 10:17:12 GMT -5
I get it. The pre-eminent event for GA Soccer and no one is willing to bid for and host it in Atlanta. What does it say about logistics for hosting what is basically 24 games?
If no CLUB will take it on, than GA Soccer should take it on. I have a hard time believing that GSP can't host it. Peachtree City hosted ... 2 years ago?
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Post by touchlinedad on May 31, 2016 10:29:25 GMT -5
Those of us who live in Atlanta also should take into account the politics of these things. Georgia Soccer is a statewide organization and so it has to deal with clubs from around the state. Atlantans tend to think that the entire state revolves around the metro area. It doesn't. There has long been an anti-Atlanta feeling around the state. Georgia has 10.2 million people while the Atlanta metro area has 5.7 million. So 4.5 million Georgians live outside metro Atlanta. And while it would be nice to have the event in Atlanta, it could not be held at one venue and so would have to be spread out, making the logistics more challenging. Add in the curse of traffic and it's a mess. Now, if Georgia Soccer Park is ever built out to its planned 16 fields and had enough parking, it would be an ideal place for State Cup to be held.
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Post by guest on May 31, 2016 10:30:48 GMT -5
To everyone that's complaining about Columbus and Statesboro, do you realize other venues have been given the chance to bid on state cup? And that no one in the metro wants to host it and deal with all of Memorial Day weekend & next weekend logistics that comes with it. And there's the rub. No place to play Georgia Soccer's State Championship. I can't think of another sport in Georgia that is in a similar predicament.
If it is true that it was up for bid and it came back from all parties as a no bid, then that should tell Ga Soccer something. In business if this happened, it would be a clear signal that your target price was not in line with what was being requested. IT's like expecting an engineer to work for minimum wage.
The dorms would be a nice option, if it wasn't so expensive. I was planning to take 4 to this event so that is a $200/night charge, two night min. Can't swing that.
I honestly was impressed with the hotels/dining/venues for the round robin in Columbus. Nice hotel, plenty of nearby meal choices, close to the fields, etc.
But this weekend is different. It seems there are more people going than hotel rooms exist in Statesboro. I am OK with overpaying for a roach motel near the venue, but they are all booked. We have to stay in another town, in an overpriced roach motel. I also checked with the hotels and they said that all their blocked rooms have called and re-confirmed. No cancellations expected.
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Post by u2dadatlanta on May 31, 2016 10:50:49 GMT -5
Those of us who live in Atlanta also should take into account the politics of these things. Georgia Soccer is a statewide organization and so it has to deal with clubs from around the state. Atlantans tend to think that the entire state revolves around the metro area. It doesn't. There has long been an anti-Atlanta feeling around the state. Georgia has 10.2 million people while the Atlanta metro area has 5.7 million. So 4.5 million Georgians live outside metro Atlanta. And while it would be nice to have the event in Atlanta, it could not be held at one venue and so would have to be spread out, making the logistics more challenging. Add in the curse of traffic and it's a mess. Now, if Georgia Soccer Park is ever built out to its planned 16 fields and had enough parking, it would be an ideal place for State Cup to be held. I hear you, however when 96%+ of the teams are from ATL what are the other clubs going to do? In this era of mandate, a new MLS team, etc the smaller clubs risked becoming irrelevant if they demand that a premium event be held in SE GA. Truth is that Statesboro is equally inconvenient for just about everyone. Have you ever driven from Valdosta to Sboro? Know this - 19 of 20 girls teams are from ATL. I looked online at GA Soccer's previous budget. $1M plus just from registration income. Host the event GA soccer. Right now how much could it make holding it somewhere in ATL and charging $5 for parking and $5 a ticket? I'd have my whole family and a dozen friends going to the game.
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Post by guest on May 31, 2016 13:20:35 GMT -5
As a point of comparison, Florida State Cup is held over 6 weekends at 20 different venues. Not sure I would espouse such a wide spread in dates and places, but it does show that you can host such a big event at multiple locations. Would be similar to the GS-run Atlanta Cup which is held in venues all over ATL.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 1, 2016 8:32:50 GMT -5
So my daughter is a rising U12(new mandate) aged player. She's currently trying out to be a U12 in the fall. My question(s) is as this..
- What is the process and when does state cup chaos begin? - What and where should I have her go to give her a good chance on being on a good team? - ECNL, when does that begin and what should I do to put her in the good position to make a good team/club? - Girls DA??? - Realistic costs for all of the above, I have heard I might have to take out a 2nd mortgage to fund all of these activities on the girls side.
Thanks and my apologies if these have all already been answered.
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Post by 5.slooh on Jun 1, 2016 8:59:50 GMT -5
Its crazy how Atlanta, a large city, dont have a complex large enough to host a state cup.
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 1, 2016 9:12:22 GMT -5
So my daughter is a rising U12(new mandate) aged player. She's currently trying out to be a U12 in the fall. My question(s) is as this.. - What is the process and when does state cup chaos begin? - What and where should I have her go to give her a good chance on being on a good team? - ECNL, when does that begin and what should I do to put her in the good position to make a good team/club? - Girls DA??? - Realistic costs for all of the above, I have heard I might have to take out a 2nd mortgage to fund all of these activities on the girls side. Thanks and my apologies if these have all already been answered. -State cup begins at U13, depending on your club some U12's get to go to state cup with the 13's. -Everyone has a different opinion on what a good team is, i feel that you need to look for a good coach -ECNL begins at U14 -Girls DA will also begin at U14, they will have 3 teams U14/U15, U16/U17 & U18/U19 ( this doesnt start until 2017 and clubs havent been announced) -The costs will vary from club and teams and the competitiveness of the team. The base you will pay will be the same but its the amount of travel that will be the huge cost. Talk to parents from the clubs that you're interested in and they can give you a ballpark of their expenses. Some clubs tend to go to more tournaments/showcases than others. Good luck with tryouts!
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Post by u2dadatlanta on Jun 1, 2016 9:38:08 GMT -5
So my daughter is a rising U12(new mandate) aged player. She's currently trying out to be a U12 in the fall. My question(s) is as this.. - What is the process and when does state cup chaos begin? - What and where should I have her go to give her a good chance on being on a good team? - ECNL, when does that begin and what should I do to put her in the good position to make a good team/club? - Girls DA??? - Realistic costs for all of the above, I have heard I might have to take out a 2nd mortgage to fund all of these activities on the girls side. Thanks and my apologies if these have all already been answered. State cup starts at U13 so no chaos this year What level will she hope to be playing? ECNL is U14. Girls DA is an unknown for now IMO Costs? You have a good 2 years - 4 seasons - before that is a major issue
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 1, 2016 12:15:31 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone for all the info, will definitely look to speak with parents at potential clubs for ECNL/DA and find out more about coaches and their coaching philosophies.
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Post by spectator on Jun 1, 2016 12:35:58 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone for all the info, will definitely look to speak with parents at potential clubs for ECNL/DA and find out more about coaches and their coaching philosophies. Well I'm weighing in late on this one but here's my two cents. Your kid is U12 - 11 years old. ECNL or DA aren't even a possibility for 2-3 years and a lot can happen in 2-3 years - both with your kid and with any club you are scouting. Growth spurts (or not), coaching changes, club mergers - change is inevitable. Best advice I can give - - find the right coach for your child. At U12 learning the skills of the game is still the most important but too many parents and coaches forego this chasing down the elite level teams for later on - or get wrapped up in winning or rankings or which league is better. U12's still need to learn foot skills and speed and how to read the field - that is what will show when they try out next year for Athena. Find your coach this year - if you have to make a move next year that's fine - but focus on the skills this year not the team you hope to make in 1-2 years. Cold hard fact - coaches will look at the 'unknowns' first at tryouts rather than who they've coached all year long. Seriously you are better off playing where you have a good coach and good friends now and scoping out the teams and coaches at U13 next year. As the new face, your kid will get the first look. If she takes this year to improve and hone her skills, she'll get the second, third and fourth look too! I've seen it happen every year - especially at U13-U14 - those are where we saw the most movement (pre mandate). This year all bets are off! Just my two cents - good luck at tryouts this week
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Post by spectator on Jun 1, 2016 12:40:51 GMT -5
One more thing - at this age - don't discount ODP. I strongly encourage you to have your child try out in September. If for no other reason than it's additional training sessions that are different than your club and multiple coaches can get to know and see your child play.
Also, it's not expensive - biggest cost is region camp but again, more training and exposure so in the long run, worth it IMO.
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Post by Keeperkeeper on Jun 1, 2016 13:33:43 GMT -5
One more thing - at this age - don't discount ODP. I strongly encourage you to have your child try out in September. If for no other reason than it's additional training sessions that are different than your club and multiple coaches can get to know and see your child play. Also, it's not expensive - biggest cost is region camp but again, more training and exposure so in the long run, worth it IMO. I have to agree here. ODP was a great experience for our child. It was the experience of extra training (touches on the ball, different positions) and making friends across clubs. I also agree with the others that coaching is key at that age. Don't discount private lessons as well to strengthen any areas in need of improvement
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Post by ilove8amgames on Jun 1, 2016 21:09:35 GMT -5
I'll go along with the hi-jack of this thread ... my kid's first and possibly only (made AU) year at ODP. It was/is a fantastic experience and I hope it continues to thrive. For all the reasons stated above, but most importantly, he now knows so many kids from other clubs. It is so much fun to hear him talk with kids on other teams after they play each other.
Not that he needed it or that any other kid needs ODP, but it is a cool fraternity/sorority. A bit inconvenient, but worth it in the end.
Best of luck to all.
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Post by moonzhong on Jun 3, 2016 2:25:18 GMT -5
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Post by infoguy on Jun 3, 2016 17:10:49 GMT -5
There's some confusion about the live stream of the final four. Seems that sports stream is broadcasting field 1. Are they also streaming on the main field or is that another web site?
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Post by reinalocura on Jun 4, 2016 8:35:39 GMT -5
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