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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 20, 2016 9:16:03 GMT -5
Lots of quotes from various coaches/GM etc. A good one from Mike Sorber a Phily Union assistant coach and former US national team assistant: "Mike Sorber, Philadelphia Union assistant coach, former U.S. national team assistant: Everybody likes to talk about the academies, and better coaching. Christian Pulisic comes from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. If you think he was playing in the best environment, you're wrong. Sure, his dad played. That helps. But Pulisic had something before he went to Dortmund, just like Lionel Messi had something before he went to Barcelona. Christian Pulisic made both his U.S. national team and Borussia Dortmund debut at 17. Development is more art than science. In Germany they're not all playing in the street. German kids play video games, too. But you do have to have little pieces that keep feeding the fire. That can be a coach that gives you a piece of information, or being on a team where you play a lot and you get to explore things yourself and develop not just technical skills but the ability to solve problems, for your brain to pick up certain cues. That's complicated. You can't write that in a book. I think a big problem that we have is we're too focused on the individual, not focused on the team. And so this whole idea of technical ability and who's talented and who skillful, there are a lot of guys that are talented and skillful and have some soccer brains. But where we're coming up short lately is putting it together." www.espnfc.com/team/united-states/660/blog/post/2884481/the-state-of-soccer-development-in-the-united-states
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Post by reinalocura on Jul 20, 2016 10:05:41 GMT -5
You see that even here in our little microcosm... Teams (recruited) full of great skilled players who can't win a game because they are all "Messi" or "Ronaldo" or "pick your favorite superstar." They don't have time to learn about each from each other and trust each other because they are looking for the next best thing. Last I looked there were 11 on the field, not just 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1...
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 20, 2016 11:18:31 GMT -5
That is largely the problem with soccer in the U.S. We are trying to make each player a superstar. There are plenty of examples from other sports that a team of superstars is not typically successful. Teams have to have disciplined roll players to support the superstars on a team. However, the focus of US soccer wants to get away from team play and instead focus on individual play.
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Post by rifle on Sept 7, 2016 18:12:16 GMT -5
I haven't really watched sports talk shows since having kids, and I honestly don't know much about Cowherd (though his name is not unfamiliar and I vaguely remember him playing the heel in a point/counterpoint type show) .. But I caught this via Twitter. Watch the whole 2'30" segment and tell me you don't agree with his words.
Check out @theherd's Tweet:
I've also heard the CP hype and watched more Bundesliga in the last year than ever before (something else I'm very happy about).
What I saw CP do last night away from the ball was the most impressive thing. He certainly has the physical tools, the fearlessness and best of all a brain. I hope more guys his age get a chance to play in the national team and turn the page toward a new generation.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 7, 2016 22:39:10 GMT -5
To colin cowherd his opinion is the only one that matters and he's always right and everyone else is wrong.
That being said he's a smart dude and I believe has a law degree. I'll give him major credit for typically not having a filter which got him in trouble at ESPN. Part of it comes with the territory - controversy stirs the ratings.
I actually used to enjoy his radio show on ESPN.
It's a little early to anoint Pulisic the greatest ever at 17. His point is made though - a player like Pulisic is extremely rare with an American passport. One thing amazing about him is that he's even been given the chance. It clearly takes a special case of athleticism determination skill intelligence and maturity to do what he's doing.
I still think the talent is out there
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Post by zizou on Sept 7, 2016 23:25:36 GMT -5
And Pulisic is 5'8" and 140 lbs soaking wet. Tough as nails. Obviously a talented attacking player but the dude also takes his defensive responsibilities seriously. Sneaky quick. Vision! Ball attached to his feet. But he is 17. I like watching him play. I record BvB matches for this purpose. Next one is 9/20 by the way. Hope he keeps developing because he could end up being our special American player.
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Post by alacrity174 on Sept 8, 2016 12:20:52 GMT -5
Pulisic is a very talented player, I just hope all the pressure and plaudits heaped upon him don't get to him as they have other players who look ready to break out. Remember he is still young but with the right guidace can really be a World Class player, which unfortunately is a term thrown around far too much today
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Post by aliensource on Sept 19, 2016 11:33:46 GMT -5
Hmmmmmm.
I was listening to the Coaching Academy on Sirius FC and a well known UK pundit was a guest. THAT GUY was saying the British FA is having meeting after meeting on how to keep their young talented coaches form bolting to the USA. Because soccer in the US is on the rise and there are more clubs with higher aspirations, money, plans, and good facilities for the Brits to tap into. I think our steps forward to backwards ratio changes form year to year but the desire to step up the US game is being looked at as a better environment to make a living in the US than it is in the UK right now. I'm not saying everybody with an accent should move to the head of the line in the US BUT...if the FA is worried than we gotta be doing some stuff right.
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Post by rifle on Sept 19, 2016 17:24:06 GMT -5
Hmmmmmm. I was listening to the Coaching Academy on Sirius FC and a well known UK pundit was a guest. THAT GUY was saying the British FA is having meeting after meeting on how to keep their young talented coaches form bolting to the USA. Because soccer in the US is on the rise and there are more clubs with higher aspirations, money, plans, and good facilities for the Brits to tap into. I think our steps forward to backwards ratio changes form year to year but the desire to step up the US game is being looked at as a better environment to make a living in the US than it is in the UK right now. I'm not saying everybody with an accent should move to the head of the line in the US BUT...if the FA is worried than we gotta be doing some stuff right. Interesting. There surely are some great coaches among the UK expats, but I suspect the lure is simple.. Money. There are more suckers in America willing to pay for youth soccer.
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Post by soccerinsider on Sept 19, 2016 18:28:44 GMT -5
State of soccer in the US? It's a disgrace, a laughingstock.
Men's team can't get to the Olympics.
Women get embarrassed there toi
Mandate? 11 v 11 at younger ages? No headers, compared to africa, europe?
Stars? It's ALL about winning at U12.
No breaks. 40 games at U11= burnout.
The system is broken. When USMNT touts about a 3rd place game?
Coaches who recruit versus coach.
Lack of high level licensure.
Having to make a 10 year old decide between goalie or football
It's a badly broken state
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Post by rifle on Sept 19, 2016 19:47:58 GMT -5
A stated goal of "parity" in our highest men's pro league.. is a problem.
Declarations that US "isn't ready yet for XX".. is a problem.
A sub-par pro league whose teams cannot gain by selling players unless the league allows it.. is a problem.
A disconnected pro soccer caste system.. is a problem.
A pro league that blocks teams from acquiring players they've scouted.. is a problem.
A women's national team that forbids players from playing in France or Germany if they want to wear red white and blue.. is a problem.
A closed system whereby a club cannot reap the financial benefits of successfully training youth prospects into pro players.. is a problem.
A three month college season for players who could otherwise be pro prospects.. is a problem.
A women's league where Hermann trophy winners earn minimum wage.. is a problem.
A nation of clubs that exclude entire populations of "soccer-first" families.. is a problem.
Multi-hundred dollar uniforms and seventy dollar embroidered backpacks.. is a problem.
Kids coached to bomb the ball past the midfield rather than learn to solve problems with (or for) their teammates.. is a problem.
Multi-hundred and even thousand dollar coach education programs, that require a coaching CV.. is a problem.
Multiple factions under the same federation, all declaring themselves superior but never proving it through competition.. is a problem.
A soccer federation that is owned by a handful of NFL billionaires.. is a problem.
A soccer press that is employed by the team owners.. is a problem.
A league that pays aging stars 60x the rank and file player salary.. is a problem.
Those same stars expressing "relief" that there is no pressure playing in the league.. is a problem.
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Post by rifle on Sept 20, 2016 12:04:43 GMT -5
My last post was targeted at competitive soccer, obviously - but I want to add:
When spoiled club soccer people belittle kids who just want to play rec soccer.. it is a problem.
Having lived through only nine years of club soccer experiences, I have to say that I'm throughly enjoying the sanity of my younger (rec soccer playing) kid's experience at the local parks and rec program. So many of those spending "club soccer dollars" (myself included) are doing it needlessly and.. it is a problem.
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