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Post by soccerfan30 on Nov 21, 2016 9:31:39 GMT -5
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Post by zizou on Nov 21, 2016 9:57:25 GMT -5
Just to pull out one of my favorite quotes of all time (from DaVinci no less):
"He who appeals to authority when there is a difference of opinion works with his memory rather than with his reason."
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Post by soccerfan30 on Nov 21, 2016 10:19:05 GMT -5
Apparently JK has a meeting with Sunil Gulati later this week. I say kerp JK on as Technical Director and get someone like Guus Hiddink to be the coach.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 21, 2016 14:51:14 GMT -5
HA, I think that's the point though, when non soccer people are calling for your head, you have a big problem.
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Post by rocko1989 on Nov 21, 2016 16:10:20 GMT -5
There is no question I do not understand the game the same way he does. Saying that, I do understand wins and losses. I also understand progress and improvement. What I don't see right now is wins in the hex, and I certainly do not see progress and improvement.
Losing 2-1 to Mexico is understandable, even while incredibly disappointing. Losing 4-0 and looking clueless to Costa Rica is never OK.
Even the top national teams have down periods. There is a possibility the US men's team is simply in one of those (I am not saying we are a top team....). Klinsmann does not seem to be helping any.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Nov 21, 2016 18:26:08 GMT -5
Bruce Arena is back as the USMNT coach, can we fire Gulati now too?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 21, 2016 19:45:39 GMT -5
No doubt. Gulati has to go!!
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Post by soccerfan30 on Nov 21, 2016 19:51:16 GMT -5
To be honest I think even if we got Pep Guardiola it wouldn't make that much difference, as much as everyone raves about Christian Pulisic as the new face of US Soccer, the top countries have hundreds if not thousands of players of his ability and therein lies the problem. Our culture doesn't lend itself to developing players like Messi or Ronaldo. Our development and identification process is broken. Sure we can win a one off game against Germany, Spain, England etc but to have the level of consistency of the top countries we simply don't have the talent pool which is troubling given our large population. I think about the 1994 WC against Brazil, the WC win against Portugal, the Arena and Bradley years, are we further along now, I would say no. I think what JK did bring to the table was casting a wider net in identifying players with dual citizenship and implementing a development model for the younger US Teams, as far as coaching I wasn't a fan. When JK was the coach for Germany most people understood that Jogi Low was the tactician of the team. Now Bruce Arena is back as the coach.
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Post by alacrity174 on Nov 22, 2016 9:02:48 GMT -5
There is no question I do not understand the game the same way he does. Saying that, I do understand wins and losses. I also understand progress and improvement. What I don't see right now is wins in the hex, and I certainly do not see progress and improvement. Losing 2-1 to Mexico is understandable, even while incredibly disappointing. Losing 4-0 and looking clueless to Costa Rica is never OK. Even the top national teams have down periods. There is a possibility the US men's team is simply in one of those (I am not saying we are a top team....). Klinsmann does not seem to be helping any. I am not defending the inept display against Costa Rica, however they are #18th ranked by FIFA and made it to the qtr finals in Brazil so they are not the patsy team people are making them out to be.
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