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Post by infoguy on May 14, 2017 10:49:50 GMT -5
I thought I knew the answer to this one, but our coach raised the question: Since State Cup is a tournament, is it OK to roster a guest player from another club, as long as the player isn't playing for another team in the same tournament (this one being State Cup)?
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Post by hejausa on May 14, 2017 12:19:24 GMT -5
My understanding is that there are no guest players at State Cup. Players can be transferred to your roster from other clubs, but that transfer needs to take place officially through Georgia Soccer. The players need to be on your certified Georgia Soccer roster. You are allowed club pass players though -- players from within your club currently rostered on lower level teams. The instructions and rules are available in the documents section of the State Cup website.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 14, 2017 12:49:46 GMT -5
I thought I knew the answer to this one, but our coach raised the question: Since State Cup is a tournament, is it OK to roster a guest player from another club, as long as the player isn't playing for another team in the same tournament (this one being State Cup)? You can use guest players from other clubs in State Cup
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 14, 2017 16:10:14 GMT -5
I also thought the players had to be transferred officially to the roster.
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Post by spectator on May 14, 2017 16:24:48 GMT -5
I thought I knew the answer to this one, but our coach raised the question: Since State Cup is a tournament, is it OK to roster a guest player from another club, as long as the player isn't playing for another team in the same tournament (this one being State Cup)? You can use guest players from other clubs in State Cup Only if they are transferred- not released. Of course this does not apply to ECNL club players so you are partially correct
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Post by hejausa on May 14, 2017 22:00:13 GMT -5
I guess I misunderstood our registrar then, or she is mistaken on the rules. I've read the rules myself, and they seem to back up the understanding that State Cup players must be on the certified Georgia Soccer roster, but there are parts of the rules that are a bit unclear. I'd be interested to know what part of the rules addresses guest players.
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Post by infoguy on May 15, 2017 7:27:54 GMT -5
Received a response from GA Soccer. Guest players are NOT allowed.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 15, 2017 8:08:16 GMT -5
Received a response from GA Soccer. Guest players are NOT allowed. I know for a fact that they are allowed, because last year a team i know used an ECNL player from another club because they didn't have enough players due to injuries. So like spectator said, ECNL players are not registered with GA soccer so I guess they can add them to their roster. And even players from another club that are non encl can be "transfered" How many transfers can I have on my team?
You may have 5 previously rostered players on your roster on the date when your roster is named (frozen). What does ‘Previously Rostered’ mean?
A previously rostered player is a player who has been previously rostered to another team during this seasonal year ( September – August).
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Post by spectator on May 15, 2017 8:33:40 GMT -5
Received a response from GA Soccer. Guest players are NOT allowed. I know for a fact that they are allowed, because last year a team i know used an ECNL player from another club because they didn't have enough players due to injuries. So like spectator said, ECNL players are not registered with GA soccer so I guess they can add them to their roster. And even players from another club that are non encl can be "transfered" How many transfers can I have on my team?
You may have 5 previously rostered players on your roster on the date when your roster is named (frozen). What does ‘Previously Rostered’ mean?
A previously rostered player is a player who has been previously rostered to another team during this seasonal year ( September – August). The issue is the word 'Guest' player versus 'Rostered' player. Whereas in regular season tournaments, you can have guests from other teams - you just need permission or at least the player card so you can check into the tournament. For State Cup, it's not as easy as just getting permission and a card - the player must be 'transferred' in the system from Club A to Club B. Additional semantics come into play here when parents ask for a 'release' from a club to play with another. If a player is 'released' they are ineligible to play for any club until after tryouts. Getting the transfer is tricky because it usually means that player won't play for their own team anymore that season - which if their own team isn't going to state cup or has broken up for whatever reason is a valid request. Asking for the transfer just so your kid can be on a winning team for State Cup isn't as valid and probably the reason it's not as easy to get these kind of transfers otherwise State Cup rosters would be a revolving door of players and levels. A club transfer isn't the same thing - a kid on a lower team can be pulled up for State Cup by just putting them on the roster for the tournament - no paperwork needed. And if you are at a club with enough depth, this is a great option. But yes - it's way easier and less drama filled if clubs start getting ECNL players instead because they can just roster them for State Cup as if they'd magically appeared versus needing the paper trail to transfer them. Doesn't make it right - but it happens every single year and once boys ECNL starts, it'll happen there, too. Until USYS or GA Soccer decides to create a policy on this kind of thing, it will keep happening.
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Post by guest on May 15, 2017 9:57:06 GMT -5
I have heard two types of guest player situations:
1) a good player playing on a team that does not make/enter state cup. She knows the coach at another team that is in state cup and guest plays for them. That player would be, according to the guidelines, released from her old team to play at state cup for the new team. Then a couple weeks later she tries out for her old team again.
2) ecnl players playing at state cup. if I was at a ecnl club and I had a daughter on the '2nd team' and she got bumped at state cup after playing all year and helping to earn that state cup spot, I would be PO'd!! Doesn't ECNL have a tourney in NJ during state cup weekend? maybe it is a moot point this year.
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Post by reinalocura on May 15, 2017 10:15:30 GMT -5
"Guest Players" are not allowed. You can transfer players from other clubs to your roster before the checkin deadline. The players must be either in your club (club pass) or on your roster (via transfer if necessary).
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