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Post by michael123123 on Sept 24, 2017 22:31:55 GMT -5
My son is on an academy team for U10(under 10). His last game had 1 academy coach per team and 1 referee. As there are not 50 balls and 20 ball boys for such a match it is standard and customary for the players to retrieve balls for throw-ins, goal kicks, corners, etc. Players may need to run to retrieve a ball as far as a treeline, adjacent field, parking lot, etc. This had occurred numerous times in the last game. In the closing seconds of the game, my son's team had 3 of 5 field players run off field to retrieve the ball for what turned out to be the opponent as they were awarded the throw-in. To everyone's surprise, the kid picked up another ball on the sideline and threw it into play. That team effectively had a 5 on 2 and quickly scored the game equalizing goal. The other players were across the field getting the ball used all game for opponent's throw-in. Several parents reacted and the referee ended game immediately after following kick off. What can I as a parent do? The game is being recorded as a tie against a highly ranked team. Should the opposition coach be contacted and informed of situation so may forgo the dead play goal? If this is the sportsmanship of this particular academy system than I think I would prefer to return to the church league where I am certain no coach would want a goal allowed while opponent was retrieving the ball for their throw-in. Thoughts?
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Post by rifle on Sept 25, 2017 7:03:50 GMT -5
Sounds like your son's team has a bunch of normal nine year olds who get excited about being the one to go get the ball. That joy and innocence wears off quickly, so enjoy it while it lasts.
Sounds like the boy on the other team has older siblings, and he's been paying attention... Good on him. I bet your son's team doesn't do that again.
The ref would have done well to prevent the restart, but the ref was probably only 13 years old and too new/nervous to rock the boat.
...I think the answer is ice cream.
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Post by 04gparent on Sept 25, 2017 7:44:46 GMT -5
My son is on an academy team for U10(under 10). His last game had 1 academy coach per team and 1 referee. As there are not 50 balls and 20 ball boys for such a match it is standard and customary for the players to retrieve balls for throw-ins, goal kicks, corners, etc. Players may need to run to retrieve a ball as far as a treeline, adjacent field, parking lot, etc. This had occurred numerous times in the last game. In the closing seconds of the game, my son's team had 3 of 5 field players run off field to retrieve the ball for what turned out to be the opponent as they were awarded the throw-in. To everyone's surprise, the kid picked up another ball on the sideline and threw it into play. That team effectively had a 5 on 2 and quickly scored the game equalizing goal. The other players were across the field getting the ball used all game for opponent's throw-in. Several parents reacted and the referee ended game immediately after following kick off. What can I as a parent do? The game is being recorded as a tie against a highly ranked team. Should the opposition coach be contacted and informed of situation so may forgo the dead play goal? If this is the sportsmanship of this particular academy system than I think I would prefer to return to the church league where I am certain no coach would want a goal allowed while opponent was retrieving the ball for their throw-in. Thoughts? Hey Michael I know it doesnt seem like it now, but those rankings are darn near useless... Except of course for the bragging rights of the parents. I like you used to watch the rankings and make sure game scores were recoreded properly then realized as my kids approached u13 and above that the rankings at u9 - u12 were pointless...
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 25, 2017 8:02:37 GMT -5
Yea, ref shouldn't of allowed it, but I wouldn't worry about it. Let it light a fire in the kids for a nice revenge game. Other than that its a great learning experience.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 25, 2017 8:05:02 GMT -5
There are no official rankings or standings for Academy games so don't worry. Yes it sucks & not great sportsmanship but worst things can and will happen in a Georgia Soccer game. This is something your coach should have addressed with the Ref as well as his players. Even with 9Us I tell players to always stand on the field because there's always enough parents to go chase balls. As well as to put extra soccer balls in their bags so the only ones out are the game balls at midfield. Honestly that's kind of on your team for chasing balls instead of staying on the field or finding out who's throw in it was before getting a ball. Going forward the new custom should be for parents to go get out of bound balls instead of players on the field. Even if a ball is visible but a fields length away I'll tell my players to grab the other game ball and let a spectator get the original one.
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Post by touchlinedad on Sept 25, 2017 8:51:35 GMT -5
Sinc/Got Soccer Rankings are useless for Academy and if I was the overlord of U.S. Youth Soccer, I would eliminate them. The whole point of Academy games is to focus on development and not winning. The Sinc rankings are especially ridiculous for Academy teams because the rankings are dependent on coaches/team managers entering the Academy results and we aren't supposed to be keeping score. The rankings are part of what I call the "tournament industrial complex" and are aimed mostly at separating money from parents.
Yes, your players should not have left the field and the player for the opposing team was smart to take the advantage. But while that is fine for older players and pros, it is completely bogus for a bunch of 9U's. In my opinion, the opponent's coach is a complete tool for allowing this to happen. Personally, I would e-mail the coach and the other club's DOC. The ref also should have delayed the restart of play. But painful as it is, this is a good lesson to learn for your players. Life and soccer are unfair and don't expect others to practice good sportsmanship. Situations like this will happen in competitive youth soccer and the best thing to do is try to avoid them in the future. If there's a throw-in, goal kick, corner kick and it's for the other team, let them retrieve the ball. Learn from the situation and move on.
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Post by michael123123 on Sept 25, 2017 19:25:19 GMT -5
OK thanks for ideas. Kids were upset with unfairness of it and just the individual tie rather than win. Rankings are irrelevant...agreed.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 25, 2017 19:47:12 GMT -5
My son is on an academy team for U10(under 10). His last game had 1 academy coach per team and 1 referee. As there are not 50 balls and 20 ball boys for such a match it is standard and customary for the players to retrieve balls for throw-ins, goal kicks, corners, etc. Players may need to run to retrieve a ball as far as a treeline, adjacent field, parking lot, etc. This had occurred numerous times in the last game. In the closing seconds of the game, my son's team had 3 of 5 field players run off field to retrieve the ball for what turned out to be the opponent as they were awarded the throw-in. To everyone's surprise, the kid picked up another ball on the sideline and threw it into play. That team effectively had a 5 on 2 and quickly scored the game equalizing goal. The other players were across the field getting the ball used all game for opponent's throw-in. Several parents reacted and the referee ended game immediately after following kick off. What can I as a parent do? The game is being recorded as a tie against a highly ranked team. Should the opposition coach be contacted and informed of situation so may forgo the dead play goal? If this is the sportsmanship of this particular academy system than I think I would prefer to return to the church league where I am certain no coach would want a goal allowed while opponent was retrieving the ball for their throw-in. Thoughts? Hey Michael, I have to echo what everyone else is saying. The rankings don't mean much. They are more for the parents than anyone else. Truth be told at this stage, what matters more is the integrity and development of your kid and those on the team. The parent in me feels for your son, especially to lose that way. However, I wouldn't waste my time trying to protest the game or get the outcome changed. However, the former player in me believes that this is a teachable moment for your son. First off, never get the ball for the other team and even if you do, don't send three players. Till you reach the U13s and above, the kids should be learning and unfortunately these are some of the lessons they learn in an academy setting. I always point out how Asad with the Atlanta United team always quickly takes free kicks, before the other team is set. Again, I don't condone, support or say they should be taught that way. I say it's more of a moment for the coach to teach his players how to deal with just this type of situation in future. I wish your son well and hope he continues his love of the beautiful game...
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Post by alacrity174 on Sept 26, 2017 12:06:37 GMT -5
My son is on an academy team for U10(under 10). His last game had 1 academy coach per team and 1 referee. As there are not 50 balls and 20 ball boys for such a match it is standard and customary for the players to retrieve balls for throw-ins, goal kicks, corners, etc. Players may need to run to retrieve a ball as far as a treeline, adjacent field, parking lot, etc. This had occurred numerous times in the last game. In the closing seconds of the game, my son's team had 3 of 5 field players run off field to retrieve the ball for what turned out to be the opponent as they were awarded the throw-in. To everyone's surprise, the kid picked up another ball on the sideline and threw it into play. That team effectively had a 5 on 2 and quickly scored the game equalizing goal. The other players were across the field getting the ball used all game for opponent's throw-in. Several parents reacted and the referee ended game immediately after following kick off. What can I as a parent do? The game is being recorded as a tie against a highly ranked team. Should the opposition coach be contacted and informed of situation so may forgo the dead play goal? If this is the sportsmanship of this particular academy system than I think I would prefer to return to the church league where I am certain no coach would want a goal allowed while opponent was retrieving the ball for their throw-in. Thoughts? Hey Michael, I have to echo what everyone else is saying. The rankings don't mean much. They are more for the parents than anyone else. Truth be told at this stage, what matters more is the integrity and development of your kid and those on the team. The parent in me feels for your son, especially to lose that way. However, I wouldn't waste my time trying to protest the game or get the outcome changed. However, the former player in me believes that this is a teachable moment for your son. First off, never get the ball for the other team and even if you do, don't send three players. Till you reach the U13s and above, the kids should be learning and unfortunately these are some of the lessons they learn in an academy setting. I always point out how Asad with the Atlanta United team always quickly takes free kicks, before the other team is set. Again, I don't condone, support or say they should be taught that way. I say it's more of a moment for the coach to teach his players how to deal with just this type of situation in future. I wish your son well and hope he continues his love of the beautiful game... Free kicks are a little different. If you get a free kick it is because the other team fouled you and removed an advantage, so taking the kick before the "other team is ready" is getting that advantage back. There is nothing in the LoTG which says the other team has to be ready unless the Ref has indicated a "Ceremonial restart". On the throw being taken, as others have said great teaching moment, again nothing in the LoTG that says the other team has to be "ready" for the throw, if the non throwing team decides to go get the ball that really is on them, not a lot the ref can do in that situation.
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