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Post by Soccerhouse on Oct 11, 2017 11:58:50 GMT -5
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Post by rifle on Oct 11, 2017 14:41:30 GMT -5
Taylor is right.
People have this belief that parity is a good thing and dominant teams are bad. I say bullcrap.
Don't prop up the last place team (like NBA, NFL) with "draft picks" and allocation money. Make the last place team fight for the right to stay up. If an owner hasn't got the stomach for it, let them sell. No risk no reward.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Oct 11, 2017 14:49:48 GMT -5
But that is what is so damn interesting - why are nba and nfl college prospects so damn hungry to make it and prove they are the best. Why is soccer so much different, does it come down to the failure and inadequacies of the mens college game?
It always reminds me of Mike Fisher, back to back Hermann Trophy Winner and 2nd pick over all in the MLS college draft back in the 90s. He declined to join the team and instead went to Med School.
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Post by rifle on Oct 12, 2017 5:51:17 GMT -5
I really don't know anything and it's just my speculation but I think college soccer hinders player development. High level players go from playing 5+ days a week and year round, to a much shorter season as mandated by NCAA.
In the rest of the world this same player is in a pro environment competing and getting paid, while American college soccer players do their school work. Losing four years of intense training and games during your physical prime yields a country full of players on a lower level.
Compound this with a huge population that is excluded from playing because the country club dues are too expensive - and this is what you get.
We desperately need additional levels (plural) of pro soccer to provide another player pathway that doesn't interrupt four years of player development. But instead we have a gang of NFL billionaires pulling strings to keep their monopoly at the expense of all others.
I desperately want to see this nation become a power in world soccer, but we don't stand a chance of getting there unless major structural changes occur.
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Post by jash on Oct 12, 2017 12:16:02 GMT -5
I really don't know anything and it's just my speculation but I think college soccer hinders player development. High level players go from playing 5+ days a week and year round, to a much shorter season as mandated by NCAA. Not only that, but the game itself is different. Unlimited substitutions leads to "run as hard as you can" soccer instead of the beautiful game. It's training the players for the exact WRONG thing.
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Post by mark on Oct 12, 2017 17:47:14 GMT -5
I really don't know anything and it's just my speculation but I think college soccer hinders player development. High level players go from playing 5+ days a week and year round, to a much shorter season as mandated by NCAA. Not only that, but the game itself is different. Unlimited substitutions leads to "run as hard as you can" soccer instead of the beautiful game. It's training the players for the exact WRONG thing. Yeah, but why do so many DA kids commit to NCAA?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Oct 12, 2017 19:04:08 GMT -5
Not only that, but the game itself is different. Unlimited substitutions leads to "run as hard as you can" soccer instead of the beautiful game. It's training the players for the exact WRONG thing. Yeah, but why do so many DA kids commit to NCAA? I think it's because they feel they've reached the end of the "pro" track. Now they have to deal with the realization that College is the next best thing. This is why many folks take Atlanta United up on their offer. AU's first goal is to build for the top team, however if they fail, then you have a good opportunity to show well for colleges and possibly get an education. I had a coach who would always say, the best players in the world with the proper training, diet, genetics and luck, can play till their 40s, what then? You still need an education of some sort to help you for your second life.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Oct 13, 2017 8:25:02 GMT -5
But that is what is so damn interesting - why are nba and nfl college prospects so damn hungry to make it and prove they are the best. Why is soccer so much different, does it come down to the failure and inadequacies of the mens college game? It always reminds me of Mike Fisher, back to back Hermann Trophy Winner and 2nd pick over all in the MLS college draft back in the 90s. He declined to join the team and instead went to Med School. Could it be that for NBA and NFL prospects, they see it as there way out of the environments they grew up in? Even though I hate to admit it, soccer is a much more "elitist" sport with many of the kids coming from affluent homes and backgrounds. It is stressed upon them that education is the way to maintain that lifestyle. This affluence also lends itself to the upward spiral of pay-to-play mentality which is much more prevalent. On a side story, you reminded me of a player from FSU named Myron Rolle that was predicted go in the first round of the NFL and turned it down to become a Rhodes scholar over at Oxford University in England and is now a neurosurgeon. Atypical to say least but an incredible story too.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Oct 13, 2017 8:30:57 GMT -5
Yeah, but why do so many DA kids commit to NCAA? I think it's because they feel they've reached the end of the "pro" track. Now they have to deal with the realization that College is the next best thing. This is why many folks take Atlanta United up on their offer. AU's first goal is to build for the top team, however if they fail, then you have a good opportunity to show well for colleges and possibly get an education. I had a coach who would always say, the best players in the world with the proper training, diet, genetics and luck, can play till their 40s, what then? You still need an education of some sort to help you for your second life. What Futsal said.... I know as a parent I would be pushing my kid towards college just from the shear statistics of it. The percentage of players that make a career out of professional sports vs getting an education that will support them for the rest of their life, its a no-brainer from my perspective.
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