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Post by soccerrus on Nov 7, 2017 9:46:23 GMT -5
I know this has been brought up, but just looking at the u15 and older age groups for boys DA.
You have to give major props to Concorde. Am I crazy or since Atlanta United rolled into town, has their DA gotten better! Currently sitting at #1 in u15 #2 in u16/17 #7 in u18/19
Pretty remarkable if you ask me.
And since we are talking boys DA, what the hell has happened to UFA's u15 squad? That Ga United team last year was not that bad of team and actually finished pretty strong. Had a good mix of boys on it and you would have expected it was a quality squad to build from. What the heck is going on with that team? Not a very impressive fall so far sitting at 13th, with only 2 wins and 7 loses and 2 ties. They have 28 goals against which is the worst in the division. Something isn't working.
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Post by cantgetright on Nov 7, 2017 12:34:56 GMT -5
Why is it a surprise? They were the best team at their age group in this region last year. They lost a couple kids, but picked up a couple of kids. I think the surprise is how poorly UFA is doing right now. I don't think that was expected. They lost a couple of kids and gained a couple of kids as well. They were middle of the pack last year, I would have expected to see them about there as well.
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Post by gaprospects on Nov 7, 2017 13:14:17 GMT -5
Theoretically as Atlanta United continues to bring in kids from all over the place, more of the best players from metro Atlanta would naturally end up at Concorde and UFA. A rising tide floats all boats.
That said, most of the local kids that AU picked up last summer for their older teams came from clubs like KSA, GSA, and Inter Atlanta. I think they took a '99, an '00 and two '03s from Concorde, that's it. To me, it proves two things: 1) a lot of the best players in the state don't play DA until AU notices them (if they ever do), and 2) the talent in metro-Atlanta runs very deep.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 7, 2017 13:24:52 GMT -5
In regards to DA, we should also keep in mind that CF has been at the DA game much longer than anyone else in the region. In other news heard AU had an ID camp for certain age groups. Maybe it's an opportunity to plug the holes in the current teams. Only time will tell.
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Post by cantgetright on Nov 7, 2017 15:16:11 GMT -5
Quite honestly, I am not sure I would leave my current club for AU if they come calling. Not impressed with the coaching, my son currently gets tons of playing time and their turnover is too high. Maybe at u17 or u18. I don't think it would be wise at the younger ages due to turnover. I have to imagine if they have you for a year and you are cut, it would be a long hard road to get back if at all.
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Post by newposter on Nov 7, 2017 19:33:27 GMT -5
AU is really the only DA worth playing for. As the other poster stated many players selected by AU came from non DA teams. It shows other programs are putting out high level players.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Nov 7, 2017 22:59:58 GMT -5
Quite honestly, I am not sure I would leave my current club for AU if they come calling. Not impressed with the coaching, my son currently gets tons of playing time and their turnover is too high. Maybe at u17 or u18. I don't think it would be wise at the younger ages due to turnover. I have to imagine if they have you for a year and you are cut, it would be a long hard road to get back if at all. Wow, your decision whether or not your son plays for AU? I don’t think any player would turn down AU and if you stopped it from happening, I don’t think you would be forgiven, EVER. Well, unless you Coach your son and he plays for your club. 🤔
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Post by cantgetright on Nov 8, 2017 8:13:38 GMT -5
Yes, if offered, my decision. Are you not the parent in your household? My apprehension is at the younger age groups. Yes a lot of turnover. What is your kid going to remember if he gets cut? Is he going to remember making ATLUTD or is he going to remember getting cut? What would stick out in his mind as a young one? To be frank at those ages, you don't know what they will become, it is too early. So stick with a good coach, get a lot of playing time and let the cards fall where they may. If the opportunity presents itself at an older age, then great. If not, then so be it. Watching my son and his team, I am amazed at how fast the game is played. Remember ATL's academy is u12, u13, u14, u15. The older teams, would you say they developed them? @ Zico, there are a lot of good players and believe it or not there are some other DA programs out there that have quick fast players and just as much skill that ATL has.
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Post by mightydawg on Nov 8, 2017 9:35:55 GMT -5
Quite honestly, I am not sure I would leave my current club for AU if they come calling. Not impressed with the coaching, my son currently gets tons of playing time and their turnover is too high. Maybe at u17 or u18. I don't think it would be wise at the younger ages due to turnover. I have to imagine if they have you for a year and you are cut, it would be a long hard road to get back if at all. Wow, your decision whether or not your son plays for AU? I don’t think any player would turn down AU and if you stopped it from happening, I don’t think you would be forgiven, EVER. Well, unless you Coach your son and he plays for your club. 🤔 Of course it is a family decision regarding whether a kid would play at Atlanta United. Is the family able to get the kid to and from Marietta 4 times a week for training? Will the child be able to keep up with school work given the amount of time spent in the car and at training? As a parent, you have to guide your kids through these decisions and not just blindly accept an invitation because it is offered. Even at Atlanta United, very few kids will actually play beyond high school age.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Nov 8, 2017 10:00:51 GMT -5
I agree with you all that it’s a family decision and there are many factors in where you choose to allow your son to play. I was commenting that it was a decision based on Coaching/playing time and getting cut,U15 and under as the reason not to join AU. I’m sure that AU is very selective in who they want in their Academy. AU is making the investment in your son as the pay to play factor is gone. So, just these factors I was a little surprised that’s all. I didn’t mean to offend anyone as you know your son best.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 8, 2017 11:40:15 GMT -5
Will AU let kids specifically the younger kids miss training sessions for school related functions without penalties?
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Post by gaprospects on Nov 8, 2017 12:47:50 GMT -5
AU is really the only DA worth playing for. As the other poster stated many players selected by AU came from non DA teams. It shows other programs are putting out high level players. As the "other poster," I disagree with this take. If a goal of your player is to earn a scholarship to a D1 school, playing DA at a club like Concorde can absolutely provide that. Concorde DA puts several players into good D1 programs every year.
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Post by alacrity174 on Nov 9, 2017 11:49:01 GMT -5
Quite honestly, I am not sure I would leave my current club for AU if they come calling. Not impressed with the coaching, my son currently gets tons of playing time and their turnover is too high. Maybe at u17 or u18. I don't think it would be wise at the younger ages due to turnover. I have to imagine if they have you for a year and you are cut, it would be a long hard road to get back if at all. Slightly alternative view. Coaching is outstanding for my son’s age group. Between top notch practices, and playing with skilled, fast and aggressive kids 4-5 days a week, the boy has improved more last 3 months than during any 3 month period prior. Whether he gets cut shortly or stays with program for years, he will come out a better player and an experience richer. Turnover is part of the model - they are looking to develop individuals/future pros - not teams. Naturally they will turn many players over they don’t see making it. "Turnover is part of the model - they are looking to develop individuals/future pros - not teams"
This is the part of your comment that has me shaking my head. Look at South American academies or European academies they have a low turnover because they are trying to Develop players. AU and the other DA programs cherry pick the best of the minute players and then seem to discard them at the end of the season instead of developing. If they were serious about development they would commit to a player long term.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Nov 9, 2017 13:35:32 GMT -5
In a community like this, where it can take an hour to get kids to training etc, I really wish that Atl United just went with the u15 and above age group. Let the local clubs work with the younger age groups especially given the number that have DA. There is great training/coaching available at most these clubs.
Regardless everyone needs to make a decision what is the best interest of their child, but playing for free vs paying is almost impossible to turn down. I know a few that have because the parents didn't believe the sacrifice was worth it. But that is there decision and they know there kid better than anyone.
I'm just glad Julian Gressel got the rookie of the year, a 4 year college kid that probably just needed to mature. I find it hard to believe that he couldn't play in the bundesliga. College ain't all that bad, and for 99.99999% of everyone in this community, that's what parents should focus on. I'm not sure how reasonable it really is to make it over sees if a kid isn't a consistent national team product.
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