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Post by oraclesfriend on May 17, 2019 21:49:32 GMT -5
So 2 is not cheating but 5 is? What are you trying to say? Is 2 less cheating than 5 or is cheating cheating or what? Please clarify your statements. Neither is technically cheating UNLESS the rules state that there is a limit on guest players...then it is cheating. It IS against the spirit of the competition though when a team is labeled one thing and is actually something else. I don't agree with Atlfutboldad that it is ok to bring your roster to 17 or 18. You don't need that big of a roster. 4 subs is plenty so 15 suffices IMO. Even 14 is doable. We played in tournaments with only 13 and were fine.
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 17, 2019 21:49:43 GMT -5
Guys first off let's not talk about stuff you don't know anything about. You are thrashing a guy for s&$t you don't know. 1) Mills didn't give up players to SCCL because they also went to TN and the SCCL team was in there bracket. So why would you give up your best players to help a team your going to play against? 2) From what I have been told he doesn't have 5 ECNL players playing for him. He will have 2 the other one we're on his team that played up for the ECNL team and they had to be rostered on the ECNL to play. So guys before you accuse someone of cheating please get all your facts correct. The Facts NTH ECNL Roster
- name redacted
- name redacted
- name redacted
- name redacted
NTH 05 SCCL Roster- name redacted
- name redacted
- name redacted
- name redacted
Not good in math but it was stated 5 ECNL girls I count 4. And from my knowledge (Not part of this team) 2 of them started on the SCCL team and we're rostered up for some ECNL games. Also this is the SCCL team Coach Mills the A level coach is the one being called the cheater
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Post by petrcechitout on May 17, 2019 21:52:10 GMT -5
Not good at reading, since I never said 5, that was someone else. I said which 5. 🙄 Not good in math but it was stated 5 ECNL girls I count 4. And from my knowledge (Not part of this team) 2 of them started on the SCCL team and we're rostered up for some ECNL games. Also this is the SCCL team Coach Mills the A level coach is the one being called the cheater
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 17, 2019 21:55:11 GMT -5
Not good in math but it was stated 5 ECNL girls I count 4. And from my knowledge (Not part of this team) 2 of them started on the SCCL team and we're rostered up for some ECNL games. Also this is the SCCL team Coach Mills the A level coach is the one being called the cheater Ok apologize about 5 players but I was talking about coach Mills getting drag through the mud and I think your talking about the SCCL
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Post by Keeper on May 17, 2019 21:55:50 GMT -5
So 2 is not cheating but 5 is? What are you trying to say? Is 2 less cheating than 5 or is cheating cheating or what? Please clarify your statements. Neither is technically cheating UNLESS the rules state that there is a limit on guest players...then it is cheating. It IS against the spirit of the competition though when a team is labeled one thing and is actually something else. I don't agree with Atlfutboldad that it is ok to bring your roster to 17 or 18. You don't need that big of a roster. 4 subs is plenty so 15 suffices IMO. Even 14 is doable. We played in tournaments with only 13 and were fine. Not to argue either way, but technically zero guest players are allowed at State Cup. All players participating have to be rostered on the USYS/Ga Soccer roster. So all these half players or UsClub players are transferred on the roster before the roster freeze deadline. I’m pretty much at the point that if you weren’t rostered on the team when it was declared to the state then you shouldn’t be allowed to play. Except say a player that just moved in blah blah kind of stuff.
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 17, 2019 22:05:34 GMT -5
Neither is technically cheating UNLESS the rules state that there is a limit on guest players...then it is cheating. It IS against the spirit of the competition though when a team is labeled one thing and is actually something else. I don't agree with Atlfutboldad that it is ok to bring your roster to 17 or 18. You don't need that big of a roster. 4 subs is plenty so 15 suffices IMO. Even 14 is doable. We played in tournaments with only 13 and were fine. Not to argue either way, but technically zero guest players are allowed at State Cup. All players participating have to be rostered on the USYS/Ga Soccer roster. So all these half players or UsClub players are transferred on the roster before the roster freeze deadline. I’m pretty much at the point that if you weren’t rostered on the team when it was declared to the state then you shouldn’t be allowed to play. Except say a player that just moved in blah blah kind of stuff. I agree with your comment, their should be no guest players but unfortunately with the time of year and players being hurt or players leaving for summer it is so difficult to have a full roster. I know for my daughter's older age group team she will not have 2 players due to HS State Championships and 1 other key player for her sisters graduation. So the team of 14 is down to 11 able players and they lost 1 to injury so there roster is now 10. Difficult to play in Tophat tournament with 10 players and try to beat and ECNL and NPL team
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Post by soccerfan30 on May 17, 2019 22:12:23 GMT -5
Rivah will do anything to win in his first season at TopHat. He will look bad if they don't win and the parents will not be happy either. Guys first off let's not talk about stuff you don't know anything about. You are thrashing a guy for s&$t you don't know. 1) Mills didn't give up players to SCCL because they also went to TN and the SCCL team was in there bracket. So why would you give up your best players to help a team your going to play against? 2) From what I have been told he doesn't have 5 ECNL players playing for him. He will have 2 the other one we're on his team that played up for the ECNL team and they had to be rostered on the ECNL to play. So guys before you accuse someone of cheating please get all your facts correct. Rivah should have pulled from the Blue team below his if he needed some subs.
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 17, 2019 22:21:19 GMT -5
Guys first off let's not talk about stuff you don't know anything about. You are thrashing a guy for s&$t you don't know. 1) Mills didn't give up players to SCCL because they also went to TN and the SCCL team was in there bracket. So why would you give up your best players to help a team your going to play against? 2) From what I have been told he doesn't have 5 ECNL players playing for him. He will have 2 the other one we're on his team that played up for the ECNL team and they had to be rostered on the ECNL to play. So guys before you accuse someone of cheating please get all your facts correct. Rivah should have pulled from the Blue team below his if he needed some subs. Agreed but I guess he was doing what everyone else was doing. Absolutely doesn't make right. The sad part is this will probably never be fixed because of the win at all cost. I can only guess the pressure that is on the coaches at the Big 5 clubs to win or Mia/Messi will change clubs and bring their money somewhere else. I know when I coached at a smaller club we could never schedule games against the upper teams of the Big 5 because they were in a no win situation. If you won that is what was supposed to happen if you lost coach's seat just got a little warmer. The only time we got to play the harder teams is once they turned 13 and Georgia Soccer made the schedules. Unfortunately by that time key players left to go to the big 5 clubs to play RPL or ECNL.
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Post by soccerfan30 on May 17, 2019 23:23:48 GMT -5
Rivah should have pulled from the Blue team below his if he needed some subs. Agreed but I guess he was doing what everyone else was doing. Absolutely doesn't make right. The sad part is this will probably never be fixed because of the win at all cost. I can only guess the pressure that is on the coaches at the Big 5 clubs to win or Mia/Messi will change clubs and bring their money somewhere else. I know when I coached at a smaller club we could never schedule games against the upper teams of the Big 5 because they were in a no win situation. If you won that is what was supposed to happen if you lost coach's seat just got a little warmer. The only time we got to play the harder teams is once they turned 13 and Georgia Soccer made the schedules. Unfortunately by that time key players left to go to the big 5 clubs to play RPL or ECNL. As I mentioned previously I coached the 04 NTH White team that went to State Cup last year and advanced to the Final Four, we beat UFA's NL/SRPL team, GSA's NL team and tied CF's Athena A team with 4 or 5 ECNL players dropped down "to help". I didn't use a single guest player and had the same group of girls all year. For me I would never use higher level players just to win, the measure of a coach is to develop what you have and see how far you can take the team with the talent you have.
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 17, 2019 23:31:21 GMT -5
Agreed but I guess he was doing what everyone else was doing. Absolutely doesn't make right. The sad part is this will probably never be fixed because of the win at all cost. I can only guess the pressure that is on the coaches at the Big 5 clubs to win or Mia/Messi will change clubs and bring their money somewhere else. I know when I coached at a smaller club we could never schedule games against the upper teams of the Big 5 because they were in a no win situation. If you won that is what was supposed to happen if you lost coach's seat just got a little warmer. The only time we got to play the harder teams is once they turned 13 and Georgia Soccer made the schedules. Unfortunately by that time key players left to go to the big 5 clubs to play RPL or ECNL. As I mentioned previously I coached the 04 NTH White team that went to State Cup last year and advanced to the Final Four, we beat UFA's NL/SRPL team, GSA's NL team and tied CF's Athena A team with 4 or 5 ECNL players dropped down "to help". I didn't use a single guest player and had the same group of girls all year. For me I would never use higher level players just to win, the measure of a coach is to develop what you have and see how far you can take the team with the talent you have. That is awesome. Wish there were more coaches like you. Maybe we will be lucky and you will be my daughter teams new coach when announced, if it ever gets announced
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Post by soccerdad456 on May 18, 2019 11:35:03 GMT -5
I don't think it should be permitted to list these girls' names. Shame on you!
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Post by petrcechitout on May 18, 2019 19:27:25 GMT -5
I don't think it should be permitted to list these girls' names. Shame on you! Everyone has a right to their opinion but what is the big deal when it is publicly listed information and many parents don't think players should be permitted to play on a lower teams, when the player "never played" a game for that team in the Fall or Spring. Just because the ECNL season is over does not mean they should be allowed to play on any team and the team they were added too Won their age division in SCCL and please don't tell me about injuries. The ECNL Team had guess players from their Athena "A" team, so why were those players not called up to play on the SCCL team? Why should teams even have a roster, if that is the case?
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Post by blootooth on May 19, 2019 10:03:47 GMT -5
Honestly, winning is more than a score. It’s a mentality and the score is the outcome. My kid has been on lower teams who regularly invited higher level players to “come down” to play. She have been on top teams and played against other teams that pulled down their ECNL players to play against us. She has been on teams where they pull from the older age group and give them playing time in our games.
In every single situation, my daughter (and we as parents) have always looked at it as an OPPORTUNITY to challenge herself against better more experienced players. Sure, we could have whined and complained about the unfairness of it and how clubs only want to win, development be damned. But my daughter always thought of it as a gift and her chance to prove herself alongside and against better players. I personally feel grateful for those development opportunities provided when getting the chance to play with/against better players. She didn’t/still doesn’t always win and the team didn’t always win. But she LEARNED. Failure is the first steps of success and we should embrace it. Think about what you really want your kids to take away from all of this.
So instead of whining about how unfair it is (you all do realize that life isn’t fair, right???), encourage your kid to be excited about the challenge in front of them! If they should fail, don’t say, “Well, they cheated”. Praise them and encourage them on the good things they did.
I wholeheartedly believe that top teams are (mostly) filled with kids/parents who have an adapt and overcome - rise to the challenge mentality. ECNL/DA players are not superhuman. These are 13 year old girls who have a winner’s mentality, some natural athletic gifts, and a little luck. ANYONE can have a winner’s mentality and rise to the challenge. So no need for all this hate and vitriol. There are bigger life lessons here than winning a game. Do you want to teach them that they’re always being cheated somehow? Or that they can rise to the challenge?
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 19, 2019 10:30:16 GMT -5
Honestly, winning is more than a score. It’s a mentality and the score is the outcome. My kid has been on lower teams who regularly invited higher level players to “come down” to play. She have been on top teams and played against other teams that pulled down their ECNL players to play against us. She has been on teams where they pull from the older age group and give them playing time in our games. In every single situation, my daughter (and we as parents) have always looked at it as an OPPORTUNITY to challenge herself against better more experienced players. Sure, we could have whined and complained about the unfairness of it and how clubs only want to win, development be damned. But my daughter always thought of it as a gift and her chance to prove herself alongside and against better players. I personally feel grateful for those development opportunities provided when getting the chance to play with/against better players. She didn’t/still doesn’t always win and the team didn’t always win. But she LEARNED. Failure is the first steps of success and we should embrace it. Think about what you really want your kids to take away from all of this. So instead of whining about how unfair it is (you all do realize that life isn’t fair, right???), encourage your kid to be excited about the challenge in front of them! If they should fail, don’t say, “Well, they cheated”. Praise them and encourage them on the good things they did. I wholeheartedly believe that top teams are (mostly) filled with kids/parents who have an adapt and overcome - rise to the challenge mentality. ECNL/DA players are not superhuman. These are 13 year old girls who have a winner’s mentality, some natural athletic gifts, and a little luck. ANYONE can have a winner’s mentality and rise to the challenge. So no need for all this hate and vitriol. There are bigger life lessons here than winning a game. Do you want to teach them that they’re always being cheated somehow? Or that they can rise to the challenge? I think you have excellent points. From my perspective I don't care if we are playing against ECNL players or not. I agree with you there. What I don't like is that it hurts the players on the team BEHIND the team that is receiving the guest players playing down. So for example, TH 05 SCCL or White Mills should have pulled players from the White QP or MN or the TH Blue team to give those girls the opportunity to experience the playing with and against better players. For the opponents' view I agree with you. The goal for clubs' treatment of these kids should be the development of EVERYONE at the club...not just the "special" kids in the alphabet leagues. My beef with the playing players down is the "rich get richer" due to increased playing opportunities. I agree that life isn't fair and your spin is exactly what I have told my kid when playing against ECNL play downs and in the past as well. I am just trying to advocate for the kids on the lower teams that should be given the opportunity to play up.
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Post by soccerdad456 on May 19, 2019 10:32:45 GMT -5
Yes, IF YOU GO LOOKING for that information. But to purposefully last names of those girls is wrong. They are 13!
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Post by petrcechitout on May 19, 2019 11:10:47 GMT -5
Yes, IF YOU GO LOOKING for that information. But to purposefully last names of those girls is wrong. They are 13! As previously stated earlier in this post, life is not fair even if it is right or wrong. It’s 4 girls last name who have traveled the US playing soccer. Now, they are being allowed to play on a lower team and reduce or eliminate a girls playing time simply because they can. They tried out and made the ECNL team and that’s fair but don’t come take another kids playing time because your season is over. To set the record straight, I didn’t go looking for the information, the information was presented to me.
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 19, 2019 11:28:05 GMT -5
Yes, IF YOU GO LOOKING for that information. But to purposefully last names of those girls is wrong. They are 13! As previously stated earlier in this post, life is not fair even if it is right or wrong. It’s 4 girls last name who have traveled the US playing soccer. Now, they are being allowed to play on a lower team and reduce or eliminate a girls playing time simply because they can. They tried out and made the ECNL team and that’s fair but don’t come take another kids playing time because your season is over. To set the record straight, I didn’t go looking for the information, the information was presented to me. Your still an idiot to post all the names. Hopefully no one ever finds your kids name and post it. Don't think anybody would have complained if you used initials like every intelligent person on this forum does. Hopefully these 13 year old innocent girls who are just playing the games don't get harassed at the fields Because not all of our children can be as smart as yours and know that they are playing a level down. Most just see a chance to play soccer with their friends but I guess yours sees it a different way
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Post by petrcechitout on May 19, 2019 12:58:28 GMT -5
As previously stated earlier in this post, life is not fair even if it is right or wrong. It’s 4 girls last name who have traveled the US playing soccer. Now, they are being allowed to play on a lower team and reduce or eliminate a girls playing time simply because they can. They tried out and made the ECNL team and that’s fair but don’t come take another kids playing time because your season is over. To set the record straight, I didn’t go looking for the information, the information was presented to me. Your still an idiot to post all the names. Hopefully no one ever finds your kids name and post it. Don't think anybody would have complained if you used initials like every intelligent person on this forum does. Hopefully these 13 year old innocent girls who are just playing the games don't get harassed at the fields Because not all of our children can be as smart as yours and know that they are playing a level down. Most just see a chance to play soccer with their friends but I guess yours sees it a different way Name calling and I am the idiot. It is what it is and you would not have said a word, if I had posted names and talked about how great they are. I just hope your kids have to sit the bench because the club wants to win at all cost and the cost is your child's playing time and it ruins the love of the game for them and the team they spent fall and spring sweating and practicing with. Just look at them and say life isn't fair, work harder and say but hey your team won. Yep, I am the name calling idiot. Enjoy your day..
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Post by blootooth on May 19, 2019 13:09:57 GMT -5
Honestly, winning is more than a score. It’s a mentality and the score is the outcome. My kid has been on lower teams who regularly invited higher level players to “come down” to play. She have been on top teams and played against other teams that pulled down their ECNL players to play against us. She has been on teams where they pull from the older age group and give them playing time in our games. In every single situation, my daughter (and we as parents) have always looked at it as an OPPORTUNITY to challenge herself against better more experienced players. Sure, we could have whined and complained about the unfairness of it and how clubs only want to win, development be damned. But my daughter always thought of it as a gift and her chance to prove herself alongside and against better players. I personally feel grateful for those development opportunities provided when getting the chance to play with/against better players. She didn’t/still doesn’t always win and the team didn’t always win. But she LEARNED. Failure is the first steps of success and we should embrace it. Think about what you really want your kids to take away from all of this. So instead of whining about how unfair it is (you all do realize that life isn’t fair, right???), encourage your kid to be excited about the challenge in front of them! If they should fail, don’t say, “Well, they cheated”. Praise them and encourage them on the good things they did. I wholeheartedly believe that top teams are (mostly) filled with kids/parents who have an adapt and overcome - rise to the challenge mentality. ECNL/DA players are not superhuman. These are 13 year old girls who have a winner’s mentality, some natural athletic gifts, and a little luck. ANYONE can have a winner’s mentality and rise to the challenge. So no need for all this hate and vitriol. There are bigger life lessons here than winning a game. Do you want to teach them that they’re always being cheated somehow? Or that they can rise to the challenge? I think you have excellent points. From my perspective I don't care if we are playing against ECNL players or not. I agree with you there. What I don't like is that it hurts the players on the team BEHIND the team that is receiving the guest players playing down. So for example, TH 05 SCCL or White Mills should have pulled players from the White QP or MN or the TH Blue team to give those girls the opportunity to experience the playing with and against better players. For the opponents' view I agree with you. The goal for clubs' treatment of these kids should be the development of EVERYONE at the club...not just the "special" kids in the alphabet leagues. My beef with the playing players down is the "rich get richer" due to increased playing opportunities. I agree that life isn't fair and your spin is exactly what I have told my kid when playing against ECNL play downs and in the past as well. I am just trying to advocate for the kids on the lower teams that should be given the opportunity to play up. Fair point and I agree with that at younger ages. But I think everyone knows someone who is or has been a “play up” in level or age group, or both, or both simultaneously. My kid has has done both at different points. It happens quite a bit actually. Most coaches don’t turn away from talent. The point is the talented kids, the ones with the ability to play up ARE being given opportunities. Coaches look for the ones who already have that something special that garners more development attention and more of a challenge. I know everyone feels like their kid is that kid and has that something special. But I think that the truth is when you get to the U/teens, coaches feel like for the majority (not all) but the majority of 3rd tier players will not progress to highest levels of the sport and they try to make it as fun and challenging as they can for them - at their level. The few that do rise to the top, can get an opportunity to prove themselves. We all have see play ups happen. And I’m sure many of you bring on the snark and talk trash about another kid saying she/he’s not THAT good. Having said that, talent is a relative thing, based on the depth of a particular club’s pool of players. What is a top team player at one club, could be a 3rd or even 4th team player at another club. I’ve seen that happen. It was a rude awaking for that family. So yes, I do think at younger ages, it’s just too hard to tell who will be good. But by U/teens you kind of have some idea. Of course, there could always be a few surprise players, But generally not. That’s why clubs tend to focus more on development of the top 2 teams. Because they have the most potential. But as I said in my original post, I’m a believer in a rise to the challenge mentality so literally anything is possible. And to the person who still says it’s denying playing time. It’s ONE tournament, not a whole season. I would rather whatch my kid step up to the plate and try to prove herself in 40 minutes of play alongside and against better players than play for 80 minutes at the status quo. As I said, it’s an OPPORTUNITY. How you choose to receive it is up to you. And that’s not spin, it’s a hard earned life lesson. 🙂
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Post by ultimatedad on May 19, 2019 13:10:16 GMT -5
Simmer down now folks
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Post by petrcechitout on May 19, 2019 13:23:26 GMT -5
Fair point and I agree with that at younger ages. But I think everyone knows someone who is or has been a “play up” in level or age group, or both, or both simultaneously. My kid has has done both at different points. It happens quite a bit actually. Most coaches don’t turn away from talent. The point is the talented kids, the ones with the ability to play up ARE being given opportunities. Coaches look for the ones who already have that something special that garners more development attention and more of a challenge. I know everyone feels like their kid is that kid and has that something special. But I think that the truth is when you get to the U/teens, coaches feel like for the majority (not all) but the majority of 3rd tier players will not progress to highest levels of the sport and they try to make it as fun and challenging as they can for them - at their level. The few that do rise to the top, can get an opportunity to prove themselves. We all have see play ups happen. And I’m sure many of you bring on the snark and talk trash about another kid saying she/he’s not THAT good. Having said that, talent is a relative thing, based on the depth of a particular club’s pool of players. What is a top team player at one club, could be a 3rd or even 4th team player at another club. I’ve seen that happen. It was a rude awaking for that family. So yes, I do think at younger ages, it’s just too hard to tell who will be good. But by U/teens you kind of have some idea. Of course, there could always be a few surprise players, But generally not. That’s why clubs tend to focus more on development of the top 2 teams. Because they have the most potential. But as I said in my original post, I’m a believer in a rise to the challenge mentality so literally anything is possible. And to the person who still says it’s denying playing time. It’s ONE tournament, not a whole season. I would rather whatch my kid step up to the plate and try to prove herself in 40 minutes of play alongside and against better players than play for 80 minutes at the status quo. As I said, it’s an OPPORTUNITY. How you choose to receive it is up to you. And that’s not spin, it’s a hard earned life lesson. 🙂 I agree with most of what you said but lets just hope your kid gets the chance to play with or beside and is not the kid denied a fair chance. Then it will be a hard lesson for everyone.
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 19, 2019 13:35:20 GMT -5
Your still an idiot to post all the names. Hopefully no one ever finds your kids name and post it. Don't think anybody would have complained if you used initials like every intelligent person on this forum does. Hopefully these 13 year old innocent girls who are just playing the games don't get harassed at the fields Because not all of our children can be as smart as yours and know that they are playing a level down. Most just see a chance to play soccer with their friends but I guess yours sees it a different way Name calling and I am the idiot. It is what it is and you would not have said a word, if I had posted names and talked about how great they are. I just hope your kids have to sit the bench because the club wants to win at all cost and the cost is your child's playing time and it ruins the love of the game for them and the team they spent fall and spring sweating and practicing with. Just look at them and say life isn't fair, work harder and say but hey your team won. Yep, I am the name calling idiot. Enjoy your day.. First off my daughter has been on that side where she had to sit. All it did was nake her work harder. But I guess you didn't get the point of my post. Don't call out 13 year kids players by their name. Would you appreciate it if some mention your son/daughter name on this forum? Unfortunately we have some crazy parents who take U13 soccer a little to seriously and this might lead to some situations that U13 girls should be around or apart of
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Post by ultimatedad on May 19, 2019 14:02:24 GMT -5
Does anyone know about playdowns at the 03 level?
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Post by football99ers on May 19, 2019 14:04:29 GMT -5
I agree, calling out names is low and should not have been permitted. How pathetic.
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Post by petrcechitout on May 19, 2019 14:42:22 GMT -5
I agree, calling out names is low and should not have been permitted. How pathetic. Great 1st post!
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Post by petrcechitout on May 19, 2019 14:48:24 GMT -5
I deleted the post but initials are no better, when you can clearly identify who it is. When people say you have no idea what you are talking about and then prove them wrong, the narrative changes. That is my last comment since I am not here to argue. Good luck to all at tryouts!
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Post by blootooth on May 19, 2019 14:50:57 GMT -5
I agree with most of what you said but lets just hope your kid gets the chance to play with or beside and is not the kid denied a fair chance. Then it will be a hard lesson for everyone. It absolutely has happened to my kid in the past and I’m sure it will happen again in the future and in many MANY areas of life. It happens to ALL of us. But I refuse to be the kind of person who believes and then teaches my kids that they’re always being cheated and getting the short end of the stick. It’s just flat out not true. My kid is a half decent soccer player, but there is aTON she’s not that good at. It’s okay. She’ll get disappointed. She’ll get her heart broken. She will fail big. And then she will keep moving forward because that how life works. As parents, we only want the best, but we have to them them figure it out for themselves. And I agree that it was wrong to post the names in an attempt to try to embarrass some 13 year old kids. They asked for non of this. Makes me sad that that’s where you are mentally.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 19, 2019 14:57:23 GMT -5
I agree, calling out names is low and should not have been permitted. How pathetic. I was surprised to see the names, but I did not think that it should be embarrassing to the kids. After all, I doubt those kids went running to the coach at the end of their season and begged to be put on the lower team so they can play more games. It isn't calling out the kids. They did nothing wrong. It is just providing facts. I don't agree with it, but it isn't the first or last time names or initials were used in a post.
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Post by petrcechitout on May 19, 2019 14:57:45 GMT -5
You can’t justify initials and it was not to embarrass anyone other than state the facts when being told we didn’t know what we are talking about. I am sure you just sit back and tell your kids toughen up that’s life. Sounds like you might know how to get a rowing scholarship.
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Post by blootooth on May 19, 2019 15:19:06 GMT -5
You can’t justify initials and it was not to embarrass anyone other than state the facts when being told we didn’t know what we are talking about. I am sure you just sit back and tell your kids toughen up that’s life. Sounds like you might know how to get a rowing scholarship. [br Fansastic intelligent response. LOL. 🙄
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