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Post by petrcechitout on May 19, 2019 15:22:22 GMT -5
You can’t justify initials and it was not to embarrass anyone other than state the facts when being told we didn’t know what we are talking about. I am sure you just sit back and tell your kids toughen up that’s life. Sounds like you might know how to get a rowing scholarship. [br Fansastic intelligent response. LOL. Congrats on you fourth post! Welcome to the forum and its time for your afternoon nap now.
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Post by blootooth on May 19, 2019 15:53:46 GMT -5
[br Fansastic intelligent response. LOL. Congrats on you fourth post! Welcome to the forum and its time for your afternoon nap now. Thank you! (Insert sarcasm here). I had never heard of this site until about a month ago. This topic touched me and I felt compelled to give my two cents so I broke down and registered. It just doesn’t seem like a black/white issue to me, but more of a philosophic one. I honestly think people would be happier with their soccer experience and in life if they didn’t always focus on the negative. But maybe that’s just a me thing. A Positive attitude definitely doesn’t sound like a you thing. I hope that “we’ve been cheated” mentality works out for you and your family. Good Luck with that! You’re gonna need it!! lmfao I will nap comfortably now. 😜
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 19, 2019 16:17:24 GMT -5
Congrats on you fourth post! Welcome to the forum and its time for your afternoon nap now. Thank you! (Insert sarcasm here). I had never heard of this site until about a month ago. This topic touched me and I felt compelled to give my two cents so I broke down and registered. It just doesn’t seem like a black/white issue to me, but more of a philosophic one. I honestly think people would be happier with their soccer experience and in life if they didn’t always focus on the negative. But maybe that’s just a me thing. A Positive attitude definitely doesn’t sound like a you thing. I hope that “we’ve been cheated” mentality works out for you and your family. Good Luck with that! You’re gonna need it!! lmfao I will nap comfortably now. 😜 Welcome. I think your view is great. It is nice when people can be positive (and it sounds like you are realistic too). Not everyone has that ability though. Even if someone feels like they have been cheated doesn't mean that they will wallow in negativity and self pity. They might still find motivation in that. To each their own.
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Post by blootooth on May 19, 2019 19:08:11 GMT -5
Thank you! (Insert sarcasm here). I had never heard of this site until about a month ago. This topic touched me and I felt compelled to give my two cents so I broke down and registered. It just doesn’t seem like a black/white issue to me, but more of a philosophic one. I honestly think people would be happier with their soccer experience and in life if they didn’t always focus on the negative. But maybe that’s just a me thing. A Positive attitude definitely doesn’t sound like a you thing. I hope that “we’ve been cheated” mentality works out for you and your family. Good Luck with that! You’re gonna need it!! lmfao I will nap comfortably now. 😜 Welcome. I think your view is great. It is nice when people can be positive (and it sounds like you are realistic too). Not everyone has that ability though. Even if someone feels like they have been cheated doesn't mean that they will wallow in negativity and self pity. They might still find motivation in that. To each their own. Thanks. I agree, being told no can be the best motivation of all. But I guess I didn’t feel like that was the sentiment being conveyed in this instance, so I spoke up.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 20, 2019 9:21:34 GMT -5
If you get beat by better players, so long as they are following whatever established rules there are, take your licks and move on.
Now, getting screwed by the ref is a different issue entirely. There are some places in the city where you are subject to some home cooking. And then others just suck. We had some pretty good refs this weekend, I was pretty happy.
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Post by interestedspectator on May 20, 2019 11:21:37 GMT -5
How did the Tophat White Mills team do this weekend in the NTH tournament?
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Post by sailingaway on May 20, 2019 11:41:03 GMT -5
How did the Tophat White Mills team do this weekend in the NTH tournament? They played up in the top U15 and finished 7/10 teams.
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Post by petrcechitout on May 20, 2019 19:10:25 GMT -5
How did the Tophat White Mills team do this weekend in the NTH tournament? They played up in the top U15 and finished 7/10 teams. Kudos to the Mills 05 NTH team. I heard they did not have any ECNL or SCCL players on that team.
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Post by goldcoast on May 20, 2019 19:28:44 GMT -5
They played up in the top U15 and finished 7/10 teams. Kudos to the Mills 05 NTH team. I heard they did not have any ECNL or SCCL players on that team. You heard right. They did not have anybody who wasn’t on the team all year long. Kudos to them for showing well under the circumstances.
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Post by TheMadOx on May 21, 2019 9:28:06 GMT -5
They played up in the top U15 and finished 7/10 teams. Kudos to the Mills 05 NTH team. I heard they did not have any ECNL or SCCL players on that team. Their 05 SCCL Team did have 4 Kids with ECNL patches on their sleeve in UFA Tournament though.
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Post by mistergrinch on May 21, 2019 9:35:27 GMT -5
Kudos to the Mills 05 NTH team. I heard they did not have any ECNL or SCCL players on that team. Their 05 SCCL Team did have 4 Kids with ECNL patches on their sleeve in UFA Tournament though. butbutbut... we were told that they would never do such a thing! Only one or two kids who were really SCCL all along.. and even then only because of so many injuries and a complete inability to pull from a lower team!
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Post by keepcalmandballon on May 21, 2019 10:02:10 GMT -5
Guys-can you at least get the facts correct? In the first game, we had 2 ECNL guest players who played with many of the girls last year. That meant we had 2 subs! In the second game, we had 3. In the final game, we had 2 for most of the game as one of the guest players left half way through. Again, 4 players were injured and the roster is small to start. The lower teams also played last weekend. Would you prefer the girls to play with no subs this weekend? Let us know as you're clearly concerned about it!
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Post by USoCcer on May 21, 2019 11:48:40 GMT -5
Will someone please just think of the children! This thread is about nothing but winning in youth athletic competitions. Clubs (NTH) in this case is bringing down (at least part time) ECNL players to play in State Cup. Some parents think that isn't fair because you are basically bringing in ringers. I am of the mindset that you play the games in front of you and do the best you can regardless of who is on the other side. However, I also believe that you dance with who brought you. If you have injuries and vacations, so be it. Play with 11. I wholeheartedly agree with the parents who are saying "Consider it a challenge", "Get better because of it and don't whine about it" and lastly "Life ain't fair". But if the Non-NTH parents have to consider it a challenge and a life lesson to have their children play against players who may be two levels above them, shouldn't the NTH parents tell their children the same thing? Play with no subs and do your best. Consider it a challenge. The only thing on the line is a possible spot in Regionals. Lastly, I think it's false that the SCCL/ECNL kids "just want to play soccer with their friends". I have a 14 year old girl. She absolutely knows the level she plays at and if I were to ask her, "Hey, you want to go play one or two levels down" with at least some kids you don't know, her answer is going to be a resounding "No". And she loves the game, so save that aspect of your replies. If the part time SCCL kids / ECNL kids were asked to play, couldn't the parents of those children have said no? The parents know that their children are "playing down". I don't think the kids at that age will be able to drive to the fields themselves. Could it be that the parents are being asked for their children to play and fear saying "No" to NTH? NTH is a monster of a club. 1000's of children play there. If you don't do it, your replacement will. If you said no, would you be passed over at tryouts?
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Post by mistergrinch on May 21, 2019 12:02:24 GMT -5
Guys-can you at least get the facts correct? In the first game, we had 2 ECNL guest players who played with many of the girls last year. That meant we had 2 subs! In the second game, we had 3. In the final game, we had 2 for most of the game as one of the guest players left half way through. Again, 4 players were injured and the roster is small to start. The lower teams also played last weekend. Would you prefer the girls to play with no subs this weekend? Let us know as you're clearly concerned about it! You seem to keep ignoring my point (as do some other posters).
You have 5+ teams.. you need a player, reach down and pull one up. See if you've done ANYTHING for player development and let the kid play on the better team and see if they're a fit. Also, since you claim that the roster is so small, maybe you could (dare I say it?) find another player to add to the team in the process?! Nah - the kid wasn't picked at tryouts, so she's never getting a second look..
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Post by petrcechitout on May 21, 2019 15:58:25 GMT -5
Guys-can you at least get the facts correct? In the first game, we had 2 ECNL guest players who played with many of the girls last year. That meant we had 2 subs! In the second game, we had 3. In the final game, we had 2 for most of the game as one of the guest players left half way through. Again, 4 players were injured and the roster is small to start. The lower teams also played last weekend. Would you prefer the girls to play with no subs this weekend? Let us know as you're clearly concerned about it! You can and Spin the ECNL players anyone you would like too but why didn't they bring up at least the 1 player from the Athena "A" who guest played on the ECNL team this year? Not "1" of the "4" ECNL girls played a single game with the U14 SCCL team in the fall or spring. The TopHat U14 SCCL team even "won" their league in the Fall and are currently in "2nd" place in the Spring, yet due to injuries, they needed to bring down 4 ECNL girls for the tournament? They have talent on the Athena A teams who could have helped.
Give Rivah and the U14 Athena "A"-Mills team props for playing up against U15 girls and only using the same girls that played all year together.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 25, 2019 15:03:04 GMT -5
So, keeping up with our good friends the tophat u14 ecnl team playing down this weekend: The 7 ecnl girls that played today for the SCCL team helped tophat beat ufa’s npl team 3-0. Also the 4 ECNL players playing for middle of the Athena bracket tophat mills defeated Atlanta Fire 05 NL team 3-0.
So I would say these girls helped make a difference today.
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Post by keepcalmandballon on May 25, 2019 15:17:31 GMT -5
Fake news (again!) You’re so predictable.
3 ecnl players for SCCL with 3 injured players.
This team has had a fantastic season and ALL of the team contributed to today in the heat with only 3 subs.
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Post by dad84472 on May 25, 2019 16:41:51 GMT -5
So, keeping up with our good friends the tophat u14 ecnl team playing down this weekend: The 7 ecnl girls that played today for the SCCL team helped tophat beat ufa’s npl team 3-0. Also the 4 ECNL players playing for middle of the Athena bracket tophat mills defeated Atlanta Fire 05 NL team 3-0. So I would say these girls helped make a difference today. Poor Soccermaxx. I bet the temp was hotter on your sidelines too. You should sit on ice instead of a stack of lies...
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Post by mommasoccer on May 25, 2019 17:42:59 GMT -5
This person defending TH is wrong . Soccermaxx is right . I was at the game , looked at the gamecard, and also counted 18 players on TH. 5 are ecnl.
There were 15 for AFU. AFU had two ecnl kids but those girls replaced two girls who are out.
All 3 TH goals were scored in the first half.
It’s legal for ecnl kids to help , but for goodness sakes , just admit that the same “team” AFU beat last year 4-0 lost to “TH Mills PLUS 5 ECNL” 3-0.
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Post by dad84472 on May 25, 2019 17:58:22 GMT -5
This person defending TH is wrong . Soccermaxx is right . I was at the game , looked at the gamecard, and also counted 18 players on TH. 5 are ecnl. There were 15 for AFU. AFU had two ecnl kids but those girls replaced two girls who are out. All 3 TH goals were scored in the first half. It’s legal for ecnl kids to help , but for goodness sakes , just admit that the same “team” AFU beat last year 4-0 lost to “TH Mills PLUS 5 ECNL” 3-0. You should complain about it on the ride home and teach your kids to blame others after losses. Take the L and worry about your teams improvement if they saw that drop in play over a 1 year period. 3 NTH ECNL players versus your 2 ECNL players caused a 7 goal differential? Hahahaha!!!
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Post by insideinfo on May 25, 2019 18:21:47 GMT -5
This person defending TH is wrong . Soccermaxx is right . I was at the game , looked at the gamecard, and also counted 18 players on TH. 5 are ecnl. There were 15 for AFU. AFU had two ecnl kids but those girls replaced two girls who are out. All 3 TH goals were scored in the first half. It’s legal for ecnl kids to help , but for goodness sakes , just admit that the same “team” AFU beat last year 4-0 lost to “TH Mills PLUS 5 ECNL” 3-0. You should complain about it on the ride home and teach your kids to blame others after losses. Take the L and worry about your teams improvement if they saw that drop in play over a 1 year period. 3 NTH ECNL players versus your 2 ECNL players caused a 7 goal differential? Hahahaha!!! So what you're saying is that your kid was one of those ECNL players?🤔 Is that why you are defending it so much? Its obvious your kid played on that team and she wasn't sitting on the bench while kids stole their earned play time.
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Post by dad84472 on May 25, 2019 18:27:34 GMT -5
You should complain about it on the ride home and teach your kids to blame others after losses. Take the L and worry about your teams improvement if they saw that drop in play over a 1 year period. 3 NTH ECNL players versus your 2 ECNL players caused a 7 goal differential? Hahahaha!!! So what you're saying is that your kid was one of those ECNL players?🤔 Is that why you are defending it so much? Its obvious your kid played on that team and she wasn't sitting on the bench while kids stole their earned play time. Nope! My kid is not on that team. Pinky Swear Promise.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 25, 2019 21:13:05 GMT -5
This person defending TH is wrong . Soccermaxx is right . I was at the game , looked at the gamecard, and also counted 18 players on TH. 5 are ecnl. There were 15 for AFU. AFU had two ecnl kids but those girls replaced two girls who are out. All 3 TH goals were scored in the first half. It’s legal for ecnl kids to help , but for goodness sakes , just admit that the same “team” AFU beat last year 4-0 lost to “TH Mills PLUS 5 ECNL” 3-0. Thank you!!!! Those tophat kids are just sad they didn’t make San Diego ecnl so trying to screw up state cup
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Post by mommasoccer on May 25, 2019 21:14:07 GMT -5
Hey dad8876547 or whatever it is:
You must be talking about the SCCL cup because the game I saw today was not 7 goal difference. It was 3-0. Pay attention to my earlier post: TH Mills vs AFU was STATE cup, not sccl cup.
Yes , With 7 kids on the TH bench today , I watched 5 kids who are ECNL players play AFU with 2.
You should be proud though that three kids who obviously weren’t ecnl skill level DID manage to get in the final 8 minutes coming out of the last water break. Bravo. There were three breaks per half .
And yes , it’s obvious you had a kid in your game .
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Post by dad84472 on May 25, 2019 21:25:14 GMT -5
Hey dad8876547 or whatever it is: You must be talking about the SCCL cup because the game I saw today was not 7 goal difference. It was 3-0. Pay attention to my earlier post: TH Mills vs AFU was STATE cup, not sccl cup. Yes , With 7 kids on the TH bench today , I watched 5 kids who are ECNL players play AFU with 2. You should be proud though that three kids who obviously weren’t ecnl skill level DID manage to get in the final 8 minutes coming out of the last water break. Bravo. There were three breaks per half . And yes , it’s obvious you had a kid in your game . You won 4-0 last year and lost 3-0 today. That’s 7. Hahaha! Math must not be your thing. Take your L and I still don’t have a kid on that team. #noU14inthishouse
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Post by messindreams on May 25, 2019 21:30:40 GMT -5
Hey dad8876547 or whatever it is: You must be talking about the SCCL cup because the game I saw today was not 7 goal difference. It was 3-0. Pay attention to my earlier post: TH Mills vs AFU was STATE cup, not sccl cup. Yes , With 7 kids on the TH bench today , I watched 5 kids who are ECNL players play AFU with 2. You should be proud though that three kids who obviously weren’t ecnl skill level DID manage to get in the final 8 minutes coming out of the last water break. Bravo. There were three breaks per half . And yes , it’s obvious you had a kid in your game . You won 4-0 last year and lost 3-0 today. That’s 7. Hahaha! Math must not be your thing. Take your L and I still don’t have a kid on that team. I still promise. Good luck tomorrow! Looks like it is clear that AFU played 2. Let us get this math right, did NTH have 5 ECNL players play this game, yes or no?
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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 25, 2019 22:05:24 GMT -5
You won 4-0 last year and lost 3-0 today. That’s 7. Hahaha! Math must not be your thing. Take your L and I still don’t have a kid on that team. I still promise. Good luck tomorrow! Looks like it is clear that AFU played 2. Let us get this math right, did NTH have 5 ECNL players play this game, yes or no? Yes from what I heard 5 ecnl for tophsat
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Post by mistergrinch on May 25, 2019 22:12:32 GMT -5
Rumor has it that there were at least 4 ECNL players on the roster in the SCCL cup against UFA. The 'injuries' excuse is BS, as there seemed to be 5-6 on the bench and the ECNL girls hardly came out.
Bush league.
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Post by afu on May 25, 2019 22:16:46 GMT -5
dad84472,
Yes , beating TH Mills 4-0 when TH used zero ecnl kinds and AFU used zero ecnl kids vs TH using 5 with 7 bench players in 120 degree turf to AFUs 2 with 3 bench players and winning 3-0 very understandable .
You are simply a bad role model for youth .
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Post by dad84472 on May 25, 2019 23:09:34 GMT -5
It’s been mentioned several times in this thread that 4 are rostered and 2 or 3 played. This info is from several parents who report to have kids on the NTH team. I guess 2 is the magic number that AFU parents feel is acceptable since that is their guest number? 🤣
I do not have a kiddo at this age group.
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