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Post by cantgetright on Aug 19, 2019 8:27:40 GMT -5
Concorde 03 boys DA played up an age group and won all 3 showcase games against 02/01 ECNL teams GF 8 GA 2.
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Post by soccerfan07 on Aug 19, 2019 10:08:02 GMT -5
SCCL is too expensive for the quality of soccer. Bottom line : ( We, the customer, have let this alphabet soup league scenario feed the money making egos of the people in charge. It's pricing so many kids out of soccer it's not healthy for the game. You do realize the cost for SCCL-P and SCCL is comparable to what clubs charge for Classic I and Athena A correct? Considering the SCCL-P and SCCL are comparable to Classic I / Athena A or to upper level Classic II / Athena B, I think they priced it about the same, not to mention there are more games (12 games per fall or spring + 2-4 games in a crossover division weekend) than the Classic/Athena system gives you (9-10 games per fall or spring at most). I think the prices overall in all leagues are too expensive, but picking at SCCL for something the clubs have been charging for Classic I / Athena A is kind of hypocritical. They are all too expensive and SCCL is on par with GA Soccer upper Classic/Athena. Last year the cost for SCCL was almost the same as u12 academy. It’s all a scam to make money and the wheel can’t be broken at this point.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 19, 2019 10:36:21 GMT -5
You do realize the cost for SCCL-P and SCCL is comparable to what clubs charge for Classic I and Athena A correct? Considering the SCCL-P and SCCL are comparable to Classic I / Athena A or to upper level Classic II / Athena B, I think they priced it about the same, not to mention there are more games (12 games per fall or spring + 2-4 games in a crossover division weekend) than the Classic/Athena system gives you (9-10 games per fall or spring at most). I think the prices overall in all leagues are too expensive, but picking at SCCL for something the clubs have been charging for Classic I / Athena A is kind of hypocritical. They are all too expensive and SCCL is on par with GA Soccer upper Classic/Athena. Last year the cost for SCCL was almost the same as u12 academy. It’s all a scam to make money and the wheel can’t be broken at this point. Agreed on the cost overall period. Youth Soccer in the U.S. is all about the money and not development, but my son enjoys playing and you nor I can fix it, so just got to feed the beast I guess. My son's team was not in SCCL last season. Yes it was more money than the Classic II fees we paid last season, but we would have been moving up to Classic I had we not got picked to be in SCCL. Classic I fees I think were like maybe $25-30 less than SCCL's fees for our club. He is going to get 12 games in the fall, 12 in the spring, and a fall cross-over (west vs. east division) weekend. We had 10 games fall and 10 games spring in Classic II. So for 4-6 more games it was fine in my opinion.
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Post by nole95 on Aug 19, 2019 12:01:47 GMT -5
I am going to be curious to watch the girls SCCL Premier standings this season. My daughter's U17 team finished third in Athena B last fall, and pretty much knew they were going to be promoted up to Athena A this season. They played the SSA Northside SCCL Premier team in a tournament this weekend and pretty much dominated the game. Score was 4-1 with the lone goal coming late in the game.
I know UFA Forsyth moved at least one of the younger teams from Athena B to SCCL Premier, and this was a team that would not have been promoted up to A based on where they finished last year.
I have a feeling we are going to see some teams playing in this new SCCL Premier that have no business being there, and were only placed there because their club had to commit X amount of teams to the new league. Not sure how that will help these girls development if they are out there getting blown out week in and week out.
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Post by soccerguru on Aug 19, 2019 12:19:16 GMT -5
It’s not hypocritical when I paid less for Ecnl last year than I did for Sccl-p this year.
Just saying
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Post by Keeper on Aug 19, 2019 12:42:41 GMT -5
I am going to be curious to watch the girls SCCL Premier standings this season. My daughter's U17 team finished third in Athena B last fall, and pretty much knew they were going to be promoted up to Athena A this season. They played the SSA Northside SCCL Premier team in a tournament this weekend and pretty much dominated the game. Score was 4-1 with the lone goal coming late in the game. I know UFA Forsyth moved at least one of the younger teams from Athena B to SCCL Premier, and this was a team that would not have been promoted up to A based on where they finished last year. I have a feeling we are going to see some teams playing in this new SCCL Premier that have no business being there, and were only placed there because their club had to commit X amount of teams to the new league. Not sure how that will help these girls development if they are out there getting blown out week in and week out. Yeah I understand that. Saw the U19 SCCL-P team play this weekend too and they got easily handled by three Athena A teams. But I think the issue was SCCL-Premier was given to SSA Northside to push the full SSA merger. Curious though what your thoughts were about the afc lightning black team Ufa beat 6-0 as they are placed in Athena A too?
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 19, 2019 12:49:25 GMT -5
It’s not hypocritical when I paid less for Ecnl last year than I did for Sccl-p this year. Just saying I can only go by what our club does. SSA didn't differ that much between Classic I or SCCL or SCCL-p. Neither Concorde nor GSA differ at all between ECNL/NPL/Classic I/SCCL. I assume you must be at NASA/TH which is the only club I know of that has ECNL and charges differently for ECNL over any other league. In reality it looks like you NASA/TH people are getting a steal for Select soccer compared to other clubs looking at your fee structure compared to my son's club.
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Post by hotspur1 on Aug 19, 2019 13:30:27 GMT -5
I am going to be curious to watch the girls SCCL Premier standings this season. My daughter's U17 team finished third in Athena B last fall, and pretty much knew they were going to be promoted up to Athena A this season. They played the SSA Northside SCCL Premier team in a tournament this weekend and pretty much dominated the game. Score was 4-1 with the lone goal coming late in the game. I know UFA Forsyth moved at least one of the younger teams from Athena B to SCCL Premier, and this was a team that would not have been promoted up to A based on where they finished last year. I have a feeling we are going to see some teams playing in this new SCCL Premier that have no business being there, and were only placed there because their club had to commit X amount of teams to the new league. Not sure how that will help these girls development if they are out there getting blown out week in and week out. Yeah I understand that. Saw the U19 SCCL-P team play this weekend too and they got easily handled by three Athena A teams. But I think the issue was SCCL-Premier was given to SSA Northside to push the full SSA merger. Curious though what your thoughts were about the afc lightning black team Ufa beat 6-0 as they are placed in Athena A too? SSA SCCL girls parent here. Not sure the backstory behind the Northside merger but I wouldn’t doubt there was a deal. That u19 Northside team apparently lost a few of their top players to the NPL that is now based out of Marietta. Honestly I think that the SCCL-P teams overall will be an Athena b or low Athena a quality. (With a few exceptions in each age group). Our SCCL team seems to be the strength of the old RPL squads. (We lost 2-0 vs a really good NL team, 1-0 vs an NPL team and beat an Athena a squad 3-1) once we get a few injured girls back during the regular season, I expect us to be a really good squad.
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Post by blu on Aug 19, 2019 13:30:42 GMT -5
ECNL travel expenses are greater than SCCL. So while club fees are the same at GSA you will pay more to play ECNL. There are other expenses as well.
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Post by hotspur1 on Aug 19, 2019 13:35:38 GMT -5
My surprise this weekend at the AFC tourney was the lack of games after 6:00! The sun was going down and shade starting to come across the fields but it appeared only one game started after 5:30 at McCurry South. And with the number of fields and lights available, there should’ve been at least five more games kick off late. It’s a shame, the afternoon games were hot as hell and I saw two girls come off the fields with heat related illness.
That being said, well run tourney from my perspective. Fields we played on were in good shape, solid referees, and good competition.
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Post by nole95 on Aug 19, 2019 15:23:38 GMT -5
I am going to be curious to watch the girls SCCL Premier standings this season. My daughter's U17 team finished third in Athena B last fall, and pretty much knew they were going to be promoted up to Athena A this season. They played the SSA Northside SCCL Premier team in a tournament this weekend and pretty much dominated the game. Score was 4-1 with the lone goal coming late in the game. I know UFA Forsyth moved at least one of the younger teams from Athena B to SCCL Premier, and this was a team that would not have been promoted up to A based on where they finished last year. I have a feeling we are going to see some teams playing in this new SCCL Premier that have no business being there, and were only placed there because their club had to commit X amount of teams to the new league. Not sure how that will help these girls development if they are out there getting blown out week in and week out. Yeah I understand that. Saw the U19 SCCL-P team play this weekend too and they got easily handled by three Athena A teams. But I think the issue was SCCL-Premier was given to SSA Northside to push the full SSA merger. Curious though what your thoughts were about the afc lightning black team Ufa beat 6-0 as they are placed in Athena A too? That AFC Black team finished first in U16 Athena B last year and pretty much ran over everyone in their path. My daughter's team tied them 3-3 in a well played game. From what I can tell, I think their top two scorers were pulled up to higher level AFC teams. Not sure if they lost any defenders to high level teams. Our UFA team only lost one offensive player and a couple mids, but the offense does not seem to have missed a beat. Those girls easily handled the AFC Black team. I think our keeper only had to work hard a couple of times. The AFC attack was no where what it was when we played last fall. The game against the AFC Black team was at 3:30 on Saturday, and it was scorching. I don't think I have ever been that hot after a game. I was surprised they only had one built in water break for that time of the day. They built in two yesterday for our 12:30 game.
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Post by momof2 on Aug 19, 2019 15:39:35 GMT -5
I had two surprises this weekend at the AFC tournament.
The first was the number of Tophat teams in the younger girls age groups. Every field I saw seemed to have a Tophat team playing someone all weekend. I didn’t know the two clubs had that strong a relationship to support each other’s tournaments with so many teams. I’m assuming AFC sends the same number of teams to Tophat events. On the downside for AFC, most of those Tophat teams were winning I think.
The second was how good the AFC 06 Girls are. They played on the field before my daughter’s game on Sunday and took apart an 04 team from UFA. Pretty impressive.
Good tournament all around. Glad our club sent us.
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Post by guest on Aug 20, 2019 13:09:32 GMT -5
It’s not hypocritical when I paid less for Ecnl last year than I did for Sccl-p this year. Just saying You, sir, are at the wrong club then. GSA U15-U19 ECNL - $1490 (incl the $150 league fee) GSA U15-U19 SCCL - $1225 Plus as Blu mentions, travel costs are higher with ECNL.
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Post by footyfan on Aug 20, 2019 13:35:41 GMT -5
It’s not hypocritical when I paid less for Ecnl last year than I did for Sccl-p this year. Just saying You, sir, are at the wrong club then. GSA U15-U19 ECNL - $1490 (incl the $150 league fee) GSA U15-U19 SCCL - $1225 Plus as Blu mentions, travel costs are higher with ECNL. Is it the same cost for SCCL and SCCL-P?
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