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Post by soccerfan30 on Oct 17, 2018 10:49:19 GMT -5
I know a number of DA and ECNL players and UGA isn't even on their radar.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Oct 16, 2018 11:22:37 GMT -5
Please no Berhalter, Ramos, Vermes, etc that would just be maintaining the status quo
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Post by soccerfan30 on Oct 10, 2018 7:40:18 GMT -5
Congrats to Will, he was on the initial pool of our 2002 Boys ODP team, was a pleasure to work with him.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Oct 9, 2018 7:26:09 GMT -5
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Post by soccerfan30 on Oct 1, 2018 13:48:40 GMT -5
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 29, 2018 12:53:16 GMT -5
GA Soccer won't waste their time with that it's literally unenforceable. They will deal with the red card and that will be the end of it.
Every team would need to have two certified people on the sidelines for every game in the event a coach gets ejected, that's not feasible. My team managers have a player pass as well in the event of an extreme emergency, what if they aren't at the game that day?
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 28, 2018 13:28:29 GMT -5
If Moyes takes over we will become the next Orlando City
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 26, 2018 10:18:43 GMT -5
... another opinion. If the coach is making substitutions more out of routine and not for other reasons. For example, substituting the same players, at the same time every game, and substituting 3-4 at a time. I don’t know if this is what’s going on, however, this is a lazy way to coach. Maybe the coach does that to ensure everyone plays at least 50% of the game
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 20, 2018 10:12:47 GMT -5
How can you let a game go on for 30 seconds and let another goal be scored only to call it back? Because you cannot stop play for VAR, after the handball occurred the next stoppage of play was Wondo's goal for SJ, that's when the ref went to look at the replay.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 17, 2018 7:28:55 GMT -5
So why is this a rule? Seems kind of dumb to me. Is it a recruiting thing? Just not understanding the reason for it It's a perception of fairness issue, if several players that you coach for club also play for the same coach at HS it creates problems.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 17, 2018 7:28:01 GMT -5
It could be that they coach only 2 players in club. More than 2 players out of season is considered an illegal practice by GHSA standards. School should evaluate as if it gets out other schools will turn them in. Grayson girls soccer forfeited the entire girls season and a state runner up finish because of player issue. The rule states even one player is a violation.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 16, 2018 19:18:31 GMT -5
Yes I meant Spring, its a member GHSA school, will edit my previous post.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 16, 2018 17:48:26 GMT -5
My guess is they don't play under GHSA rules because they are not a member school. Many of the private schools in Georgia play under GISA rules. These schools would have difficulty competing in GHSA games. If not, the coach will be found out and reported. The AD should immediately step in. It is a member GHSA school, it's a private school that plays in the Spring in the local Atlanta area against schools like Lovett, Pace, etc
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 16, 2018 13:40:18 GMT -5
I know a coach at a private school that coaches two of his own club players, even posts pictures of the club team on their social media account.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 10, 2018 14:12:06 GMT -5
One final item on last night (still in shock): All year, the Georgia coaches have discussed their youth and the growing pains. Look at the roster for KSU. It is younger. Somehow, KSU has found a way to be successful, including an additional seven players that saw action last night off the bench. UGA? Three. Something is off in Athens. Often times "youth" and "growing pains" is code for "we're not competitive and this is my out"
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 10, 2018 9:58:01 GMT -5
Well, might be a war between the gators and the dawgs, because the gators look really bad to start the season. Played well against UCLA, but that's really it. They were losing to UCF last night at UCF 3-0 and the game got called due to the weather. Since they didn't complete the first half, the 3-0 deficit is erased and they start back at 0-0. Either way -- gators can't score, very very disappointing. Not sure who is worse gators football or right now gators soccer. I'm going to say Gators football, when your RB says he's going to transfer 30 minutes after losing to Kentucky you know the ship is sinking.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 8, 2018 10:05:11 GMT -5
The age group my be the reason, what age group is it?
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 7, 2018 23:17:24 GMT -5
Sounds 100% like someone I used to know who coached at GSA
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 6, 2018 21:06:40 GMT -5
It would never happen but the USMNT should hire Zidane and give him total control of the youth setup.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 6, 2018 21:05:23 GMT -5
This is a no brainer to me. Im curious how it works on the ATLUTD bench wander practices with an interpreter. Tata's assistant Dario Sala is from Argentina and played at various clubs including FC Dallas, he speaks English and his wife is American.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 6, 2018 15:29:16 GMT -5
Most clubs don't allow it for obvious reasons, maybe the club in question isn't aware its happening.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 6, 2018 10:46:40 GMT -5
Thanks again, soccerfan30. All good info. As for the pre-camp, my assumption was there would be cuts from there and some kids would not make the exempt list. But that doesn't seem to be the case this year. I know of several players on "exempt" that didn't attend any sessions (and not because of injury). And, IMO, there were certainly some players out there that appeared less than the overall pool. It appears that if GA Soccer had your name, you were "exempt" no matter what. I was wondering if that was standard procedure and first cuts are at State tryouts or if that was new for this year. Not making any cuts from pre-camp lends to the talk that there's a dilution of quality. (For the record, I saw a number of quality players, which made the ones that weren't stand out. Again, just my opinion only. And everyone has a bad day or two.) Additionally, follow up question: What are coaches looking for? You generally know nothing of the kids and there's little time to make an impression. So what is it that the coaches are looking for out of each player? . The coaches for our team including myself coach girls so we are going into the evaluation process with a blank canvas (minus returning players), when people say the team is picked in advance in our case that's not true. For me I don't care where the kid plays, my impressions are based on what I see. For me I'm looking for technical skill, creativity and tactical awareness, I'm not focused so much on physical attributes...for me technical skill and high soccer IQ are priorities for me. Most tryout sessions involve small sided games and full field scrimmages, the players that just rely on speed and athleticism may not fare well in the small sided games where technical skill, first touch and speed of thought is prioritized. That same player may be more impactful on the big field but I think really good players thrive in both settings.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 6, 2018 8:47:31 GMT -5
Bump. soccerfan30 Thanks! 1) What is the likelihood of a player making it to State tryouts and then selected for the age group pool from the Preliminary tryouts? (i.e., not on the exempt list and did not get invited to pre-camp) 2) What is the process of a club being selected to have a pre-ODP ID session? (for the upcoming 08s going into next year) 3) If your club did not have a pre-ODP ID session, how is a player selected for the pre-camp? (example: some clubs didn't have the State DOC run ID clinics but they still had kids at the pre-camp.) 4) I understand kids on the exempt list for premlims go straight to State tryouts. Why weren't there any cuts from the pre-ODP camps? Seems everyone that was invited was also placed on the exempt list - even players that did not go to one day of pre-camp. So what is the point of pre-camp? I appreciate you offering to answer questions and taking the time to do so. Read more: gasoccerforum.com/thread/3437/thoughts-on-odp#ixzz5QKCMqnEqMy apologies for the delay, got a little sidetracked yesterday. 1. Its not unlikely, I've seen it happen on a number of occasions. With the advent of DA on both the boys and girls sides it provides more opportunities for players to make the State Team. I coach on the boys side, one year we had about 13-15 from our team make the region 3 pool, the most of any state. When Atlanta United started their DA program we lost most of those players to them and other DA programs. Within two years I would say a third of the state team were offered DA spots at various clubs, that age group was very strong at the time. That created opportunities for other players to make the state team over the last couple years, quite a number of new faces even at U15/U16 making the team for the first time. A couple that commuted from Savannah and near Chattanooga to play ODP. 2. Honestly I don't know the process on how clubs are selected for the pre ODP sessions, I'm sure Jacob decides in conjunction with the DOC's. I coach girls at NTH which has a strong track record in technical development and the playing style that matches the ODP philosophy so it would make sense for GA Soccer to hold a pre ODP session where they can see as many good players as possible- same with UFA, CF, GSA,etc. Given the track record for those clubs it makes sense to hold pre tryout evaluations there. If you are from a smaller club or somewhere outside the metro Atlanta area its probably more difficult to host pre tryout ODP camp, just for logistical and visibility reasons. 3. DOC's can make recommendations to Jacob, this is very helpful if you are at a smaller club or play outside the Metro Atlanta area. GA Soccer does offer District Training Centers in outlying areas to provide another pathway to ODP. 4. Not sure about that. May work differently for girls v boys ODP teams. Maybe exempt due to injury at the time of the pre camp or recommended by their clubs DOC. Sometimes players fall through the cracks or are overlooked. For my age group we typically have a handful of players that get second looks after the State Pool is finalized. Although it's rare some players have made the team after getting a second look but they have to be as good as the top half of the pool to get offered a spot. We're not going to add a player who's going be number 25+ on the roster. Hope that helps, let me know if you need further help.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 6, 2018 6:56:59 GMT -5
Crockett and Tubbs FC
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 5, 2018 9:06:11 GMT -5
I coach ODP and have been involved in the program for the last nine years, if you have any questions please post them and I'll do my best to answer them.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 31, 2018 11:50:00 GMT -5
I can't wrap my head around the notion that pay for play is bad. Now if we're just talking about providing access to the sport at the grassroots level then yes it should be cost effective. Every sport costs money: travel ice hockey, AAU basketball, travel volleyball, competitive gymnastics, etc. Is it because unlike those other sports we aren't a top soccer country on the men's side that drives this ideal that pay for play is terrible. Everything costs money, I understand that some of the cost of participation is grossly inflated and shouldn't be so high. Lets say for an Athena level player it cost $1,500 per season or $3,000 a year. Uniforms are every two to four years and most Athena teams play 90% local tournaments. I think that's on par with any other activity that practices/trains 2 to 3 times and week with upwards to 24-28 league games a year.
I looked into starting my three year old daughter in toddler martial arts- they wanted $125 a month, sign an 18 month contract with early termination fees if you quit before 18 months......for a THREE year old.
Everything cost more now: education, health care, school, food, gas, entertainment and sports. That's not going to change unfortunately.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 24, 2018 13:04:56 GMT -5
Orlando City has vowed not to allow Josef to set the MLS single season scoring record on their field tonight.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 19, 2018 17:14:05 GMT -5
They have access to great players but always seem to underachieve. Coaching matters at the college level especially in the SEC where all the schools have access to recruit the top players.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 17, 2018 11:15:30 GMT -5
soccerfan30-- an 04 NTh team you are likely very familiar with pulled out of the CF tournament after the schedules came out. Word is NTH told them to pull out. All of the NTH teams withdrew because CF said they they wouldn't attend the NTH tournament. If you have a reciprocal agreement with another club and they don't follow through allegedly because of some post tryout pettiness, this is the end result.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 16, 2018 22:54:35 GMT -5
Wait a minute, Soccerfan30. How many NTH teams competed in the Concorde tourney that was last weekend? But it's about this kids, right? I don't have a dog in this fight, but the pettiness of the club/coaches grudge matches go both ways - you and your pals at NTH certainly aren't above it. I assume the feud is primarily over the CF North/NTH Milton thing. I have no idea how that all happened, so forgive me if I'm wrong here, but it in fact does seem to me that was probably as close as it comes in the youth soccer world to sneaking in and clubbing someone over the head and stealing their coaches and players. Or maybe we are all blowing this out of proportion and making assumptions. Mabye the majority of the CF teams and the NTH teams decided that one local preseason tourney was enough and decided to go to their own. That would make sense too and is hopefully the case, since it's about the kids. Fanatic- CF told their teams not to play on the NTH tournament, NTH teams have always played in the CF event for years. It had nothing to do with not wanting to play in more than one preseason event, many NTH teams are doing SSA, AFC and or NTH, that's two in three weeks. Clubs have agreements to reciprocate, CF elected to not support the NTH tournament probably over losing players and coaches to NTH.
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