Post by soccerdude10 on Jun 21, 2017 12:04:26 GMT -5
Wow -- that year back in the day when they were a mixed 00/01 age group had over 60 players at tryouts. I think it was the largest age group they had at the club in terms of player pool size. I think they used to even have 4 teams in that age group at u13. What happened to them all?
Post by soccerdude10 on Jun 9, 2017 14:23:52 GMT -5
I think soccerb0y nailed it -- team bought in to the concept of a team. Hard work and dedication made them special along with a coach that really helped push them along and play a very attractable style of soccer.
Post by soccerdude10 on Jun 9, 2017 12:26:06 GMT -5
I've heard mixed opinions on that -- as a coach told us, he makes decisions what is in the best interest of the team etc.
But don't kid yourself, teams that don't win, don't play in the playoffs and hence don't get the same level of exposure. I think its about who consistently produces the best teams. Best teams is a sign of a combination of coaching and players.
But I also agree, DA seems to be more about individuals than the team. I think this hurts US soccer in long run, as this is a team sport. I"ve seen many great players that have no idea how to play within a team structure.
Post by soccerdude10 on Jun 9, 2017 9:20:35 GMT -5
I can add to this, that its not just as simple as the top 5 players can move on and continue with DA. They were the "perfect" team, a bunch of kids that complemented each other extremely well, and none were bigger than the team. I'm sure thats exactly what happened though, 3 to 5 remained on with UFA DA, with many kicked to the curb. All were quality kids.
Post by soccerdude10 on Mar 29, 2017 13:42:12 GMT -5
Should be interesting to see how things shake out. Because it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Atlanta United had the pick of the litter for 3 younger age groups, and they clearly aren't the top team in this city for the 13s and 14s. You don't even have to focus on results, rather shocking.
Just focusing on the u13 age group, it will be interesting if Concorde can convince its top 5 players to stay. If Atlanta United doesn't have its eyes on a few of these kids, something is seriously wrong. Even GA United's u13 team has many quality kids. They play some nice soccer, their problem right now is besides a few kids, they are relatively a very small team which makes it difficult to compete against some of the big physical players.
As others mentioned as well, take all the talent you want etc, but at the younger ages, you have to have quality coaching.
Post by soccerdude10 on Mar 19, 2017 9:32:47 GMT -5
Pretty crazy to think that if I were taking the top coaches from this city on the current dA teams at the three younger Age groups the Atlanta united coaches wouldn't be picked.
Still stunning that Atlanta united picks approximately 20--24 kids in each age group and can hire any coach they want and their is nothing special about their u12- u14 teams. A few really talented u13s that are monsters but they should be toying with teams. It's all about coaching.
Post by soccerdude10 on Nov 6, 2015 20:08:10 GMT -5
Makes ya wonder if Ga United becomes just UFA.
Wouldn't make sense for NASA/SSA players to leave their own backyards to train with the younger ga United teams. Still to bad we won't have 3 "clubs" with the 16s and 18s or what ever they call them in the future.
But why would we expect US soccer to make a smart decision. They are batting under .100.
It should be about opening doors and exposure not closing them.
Post by soccerdude10 on Aug 19, 2015 8:30:29 GMT -5
Granted, I think the USMNT looked better in the 90s when the players were raised during a win at all costs mentality. Soccer has become a sport about development vs "winning at all costs" like basketball, baseball, and football. Back in the ole days, we had 1 team, you didn't make that team, you played rec. The competition was insane, yes good kids got turned away, but kids battled to stay and remain on those squads. However, parents ran the teams vs coaches/clubs, so a change was inevitable!
I still think there are bigger issues with soccer in the U.S. and there are bigger problems that needed to be addressed before making a calendar year switch. I'm sure I will get slammed for some of these, but felt it was worth the effort.
-Cost is barrier
-Directors at large clubs are making lots of $$$$, that $$$$ could be/ should be invested back into the "kids" -- offsetting expenses. Fees could be reduced, travel costs for coaches could be assisted, more $ for scholarship players.
-Uniforms - having to purchase full kits is to much $$, the goal should be to reduce costs. Problem is clubs get kick backs from Nike/Adidas. For example, one color shorts, and socks, with 2 different color tops is adequate for the youth levels.
-Clubs need to have to a published/public technical manual and curriculum that all coaches follow and are evaluated on!
-Clubs leadership should be involved with tryout process and player placements on teams. To often, a single coach can come in, create a team whats in the best interest of "him/her" vs the club!! The response from the club is its, the coaches team, they can do what they want. I disagree, that coach could me gone in a year and not make decisions based upon whats in the best interest of the club, but for selfish reasons. I often see coaches making foolish decisions that end up making entire teams fall apart and the parents are blamed vs the coach. (Obviously the opposite happens as well, where crazy parents ruin teams)
-Big clubs carry way to many teams. This comes back to a $$$ thing, for various reasons. Do we really need 10 U11 teams?
-Too many teams in each age group means less field time for all and not enough training time/space for top teams/players
-Too many teams stretches coaches to much and cause troubles for commitments to certain teams
-Player identification has to improve (an entire topic itself)
-DA clubs being retracted vs expanded
-ODP has become an antiquated program, and has to adapt and evolve to the modern landscape - i.e. push to attend showcase DA/ECNL tournaments on boys and girls sides especially for areas where there is no DA or ECNL
-The disparity between mls and non-mls DAs. GA United/Concorde have been successful, but the resources MLS teams will and are putting into their youth system makes it extremely difficult for non-mls teams to play on a equal level and compete on and off the field. MLS academies even have their own tournaments. Every DA team should be affiliated or tied to a MLS club.
-DA should have every year from u13-u18
-RPL needs to require roster continuity and award teams vs clubs (state based decisions)
-ECNL will need to be embraced by all for what its worth, if your daughter wants to play big time college ball, its become almost a most. Yes, you can get there, but will take much more work. It needs to become an official part of US Soccer.
-The cost to play ecnl needs to be addressed, i.e. many DA clubs are fully funded and that's clubs with no MLS affiliations!
-Options for kids that want to play soccer 10 months a year and not play high school. Like DA, problem is DA focuses on older kids in each agegroup, so one year your the best/oldest, the next year your the younger half and forced to go back to your club. Big issue, the DA kids play 10 months, and the cut kid goes back to a fall season and spring high school. Some see this as a positive, ie get to play high school. But we should be enlarging our player pool not shrinking it.
-College Soccer - regardless of birth cut offs, play ups, ecnl or DA, our best go to college to play soccer. You can't compare their training and number of competitive games that they play to the rest of the world. NCAA rules would need to allow a 10 month season or more coaching time etc. Doubt this happens given limitations with all sports, and these kids are students not professional athletes. The model seems to be working for now for women, but not men.
Post by soccerdude10 on Aug 17, 2015 6:50:55 GMT -5
Folks this weekend were saying there was a vote to switch to calendar year fall 2016 vs waiting fall 2017. Any truth to this vote???
Also, the more I think about this, the more they really should have just phased this in vs switching all age groups. Yes, life will move on, but this will seriously disrupt many existing teams. The negative out weight the positives for sure. RPL will be a nightmare choosing which agegroup gets to retain the spot, I'm assuming the clubs will get to decide.
I see. I have to admit It makes sense for the club perspective, to try to build that 1 top team. But from the perspective of every parent/kid not on the top team, I haven't seen any convincing point that it isn't a step down. If there had not been a Norcorss merger, there would have been 32 kids playing top level U12 soccer next fall 11v11. After the merger there will only be 16. And don't tell me there are only 16 top level players. The coaches must have had to flip a coin for some of those decisions the talent is so equal across those teams. The U11 Forsyth red team has been ranked higher than the premier team most of the spring.
Post by soccerdude10 on Mar 10, 2015 10:38:51 GMT -5
clearly some talent in this town! torres - i believe played previously at GSA Carleton - SSA & UFA Goslin - UFA?
Eighteen of the 21 players currently play in the Development Academy.
The U-16 camp is dually coached by Shaun Tsakiris and Luchi Gonzalez.
Roster By Position: GOALKEEPERS (2): Eric Lopez (LA Galaxy; Westminster, Calif.), Brady Scott (De Anza Force; Petaluma, Calif.) DEFENDERS (7): Jose Alfaro Jr. (Fuerza Monarca; West Chicago, Ill.), Calvin Aroh (New England Revolution; Glastonbury, Conn.), McKay Eves (Real Salt Lake AZ; San Diego, Calif.), Harold Hanson (FC Golden State; Ontario, Calif.), Daniel Jones (New England Revolution; West Hartford, Conn.), Rayshaun McGann (Philadelphia Union; Royal Palm Beach, Fla.), Francisco Torres (Nomads; San Diego, Calif.) MIDFIELDERS (6): Raul Aguilera Jr. (Orlando City; Sanford, Fla.), Jose Carranza (D.C. United; Manassas, Va.), Jonathan Gonzalez (Monterrey; Santa Rosa, Calif.), Christopher Goslin (Georgia United; Locust Grove, Ga.), Nicholas Taitague (Richmond United; Midlothian, Va.), Juan Pablo Torres (Georgia United; Lilburn, Ga.) FORWARDS (6): Andrew Carleton (Georgia United; Powder Springs, Ga.), Lucas del Rosario (Capital Area RailHawks Academy – CASL; Durham, N.C.), Justin Rennicks (New England Revolution; Boston, Mass.), Timothy Weah (Paris Saint-Germain; Rosedale, N.Y.), Hanif Wright (Unattached; Los Angeles, Calif.), Aristotle Zarris (Real Salt Lake AZ; Casa Grande, Ariz.)
Post by soccerdude10 on Feb 12, 2015 10:53:49 GMT -5
For various reasons (99.5% of it being concorde having issues) our club hasn't played concorde norths academy program in 3 years. We added concorde central back in the fall, but not playing them in the spring. It is the same teams pretty much every year-- UFA-Fowler, SSA central/west, One of the GSAs, both NASAs, AFC and then 4-5 additional clubs added. Haven't played lanier in ages even though they are part of the alliance.
Others hit the nail on the head, fine line between balancing bigger clubs with smaller clubs. I think tophat and ufa fowler have always done a good job a that, where you will see a mix of opponents on a given weekend. ufa-eagles is now also part of scheduling so our club has about 4-5 teams in each group, and parents to get "pissy" when the acadmey schedules are not balanced for all the teams.
I personally would like to see a few more friendly weekends though. I'm of the opinion at the younger ages, these kids can play a game every sat and sunday and want to. now some of the parents don't want to but, the kids do. that also comes at a cost -- more games, more ref expenses and most importantly more time put in by the coach.
Post by soccerdude10 on Oct 16, 2014 9:38:57 GMT -5
Yes, It could have been 10-0, but it wasn't. Could of, should of but wasn't. they had 9 shots on goal. Their keeper had 8 saves to her credit. The final result was 1-0. In the end, we snuck out of KC with a 1-0 win over inferior team.
I don't think people are worried, its just disappointing play from the number 1 team in the world!
And yes, something is wrong with US soccer, back to back poorly attended games. Are ticket prices too high? If you haven't sold tickets by game day, sorry but its time to lower the costs and let folks in the gates! KC and south florida should be ashamed of themselves to be honest.
I thought KC was the center of soccer in the US with their MLS and womens league success?? Have I missed something also?
GA United Vs Concorde tomorrow, assuming fields are open.
GAME# Date Time Home MR Away Location 5280 Sat Oct 4 10:00 am Georgia United U-13/14 vs Concorde Fire U-13/14 Metro North Park - Field 3 2402 Sat Oct 4 12:30 pm Georgia United U-15/16 vs Concorde Fire U-15/16 Metro North Park - Field 1 (Grass) 1402 Sat Oct 4 10:00 am Georgia United U-17/18 vs Concorde Fire U-17/18 Metro North Park - Field 1 (Grass)
dang, terrible times for us with academy u9-u12 players. maybe concorde promotes these games, but we are at an affiliate ga united club and you wouldn't even know this game was this weekend.
too bad they aren't later in the day at a stadium..... why aren't they at lakepoint, thought that was going to be ga uniteds home fields?
Post by soccerdude10 on Aug 22, 2014 7:21:17 GMT -5
maybe its more than what the website leads on to.... but doubtful
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