To piggyback on the original question - what happens in U13 girls Athena A after the fall season? I have heard that up to the top 4 teams will move up to RPL since there is no RPL for U13 in the Fall season. Does that mean that 4 Athena B teams will move up to Athena A and nobody from Athena A is relegated? Or will a couple of Athena A teams be relegated also, and just reduce the amount in Athena A (there were 14 teams in u13 Athena A this fall).
Any thoughts are appreciated.
To keep going with this, supposedly all AGCs are working on getting all brackets to a max of 11 teams. This is something that most clubs have been asking for so for the 13s you could see the top 4 move to R3PL, and the last place A team and First place B team flip flop.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Nov 14, 2017 14:38:28 GMT -5
Damn AUFC is really trying to spread as far as they can across the metro. From the training center in Marietta, to the Merc downtown and now to the far end of Gwinnett to play at Coolray. As someone who lives in bumble nowhere Gwinnett I'm kinda excited to see them out here because you can only watch/drink through so much baseball in the summmer.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Nov 1, 2017 19:46:18 GMT -5
We have some former players on that team and they are talented players, just not D1 or probably D2 level. They played the Ga Gwinnett College team and got killed by them in the spring. We typically have them scrimmage our 17/18/19U teams in the spring before State Cup as well and they're pretty even except for the physical play. It's a great accomplishment for them but sucks the school won't pay the $10K to send them to AZ.
Two things really stand out when looking at their stats.
1. At a top level, their ability to generate offense is bad. But take away their 9-1 win vs Coastal Carolina (RPI 201) and you have a team that scored 12 goals in 17 games. That's pretty atrocious at any level.
2. Small sample size, but it seems quite possible they played the wrong keeper for far too many minutes. I know oftentimes the best defense is a good offense (which was clearly not happening), but the starting goalie probably had too long of a leash.
Just to highlight your point about their scoring problems. Kentucky, who they played last evening, lost their scholarship keepers to injury weeks ago. They have been rotating field player in goal. Georgia could not score against Kentucky.
Rotating field players?!? At D1 and SEC level?! Holy crap! Give that team and coach a trophy for perseverance!
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Oct 20, 2017 15:08:03 GMT -5
It's all about politics. And most likely USSoccer is sucking up to Tom Benson because they want his money and influence somewhere. USSoccer doesn't pick venues for the players or fans but based off what makes more money or brings more influence to them.
You're right. But there's no way to enforce it unless Ga Soccer puts academy games under them with computerized and set rosters which completely ruins the idea of an Academy program. Might as well go back to the old days of playing Classic and Athena starting at 11U.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Oct 11, 2017 21:05:03 GMT -5
You all can't get it because you're not thinking mischievous. By having them rostered 12U, paperwork printed and then transferred to 13U and new passes printed then you're able to move that kid back and forth between Classic and academy games, and sounds like he's not the only player. This way you could move 5-6 players from a 12U A team to a 13U Classic 1 team AND still have your 3 club passes to move kids from your 13U Classic 2,3,4,5 teams. It's a loophole that is technically is illegal but Ga Soccer has no way of tracking it since like someone said there's no computerized game card for academy games. You have to remember too that 12U academy players are only able to club pass to the top two teams of 13U. So if a club has a C1, C2 and C3 team that C3 team CANNOT club pass 12Us. This is something the "big" clubs have done since the club pass rule was made and certain "little" clubs do just to make sure they can get enough players to those 13U games to compete.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Oct 10, 2017 22:39:13 GMT -5
So we really don't need a Men's team since they can't make an Olympics or World Cup can they just disband the whole program and throw all the money and resources to the Women's program? I mean at least they have a shot to make a World Cup don't think they'll win again under current management though.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Oct 10, 2017 22:33:23 GMT -5
Technically that's a grey area. Yes you can roster a kid 12U, then transfer them to a 13U team so they would have two player passes, one as a 12U and one with the 13U team and they could play Academy and Classic/Athena since Academy is technically in house and not run by GaSoccer. Worst case the club would have to forfeit any games the kid played in as a 12U but those games outside of tournament don't count so no real punishment.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Oct 10, 2017 8:57:17 GMT -5
Great things can happen when your soccer association puts millions of dollars in educating coaches at the youth level, building facilities, and emphasizing development over wins, but instead we have US Soccer. Iceland has a much better chance of winning a World Cup before the US does now.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Oct 3, 2017 10:15:47 GMT -5
I would have picked Nashville over Atlanta ANY DAY OF YEAR as a sports town. As a city that will sellout and support their local professional sports teams Nashville will out do Atlanta. Yeah the Merc is all new and shiny now but it was that way for the Thrashers too...
This has nothing to do with youth sports but Nashville shouldn't have any problem getting athletes to move there.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Oct 1, 2017 20:21:06 GMT -5
Okay, so who hear is over the bullshît new 7v7 rules that half the clubs are using and half the clubs aren't using and 95% of the refs have no idea what they are???
For the rest that haven't dealt with this US Soccer and there wonderful idiocy have banned punting for 7v7 and added in a build out line that now allows players to not be offsides anywhere between both build out lines. So instead of the field being in two halves, it's in three quarters like a hockey rink and players can now cherry pick at the build out line instead of the half line like traditional soccer. Also these are not full rules yet but only highly recommended so not all clubs follow them until January. So thus why 1 of 20 refs know about them.
So add in the No heading from last year and essentially you've taken the game of soccer out of soccer and made the sport worse. I mean is US Soccer getting help from the NFL because by trying to make the game safer and more competitive they've almost killed the game for the Lil ones.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Sept 27, 2017 9:18:11 GMT -5
Minimum and Maximums changed from US Soccer when we changed the Age Year and to 9v9/7v7. For a 9v9 field, the Length is 70-80 yards and Width 45-55 yards. So that field may be a tad short but is within the width. You have remember when US Soccer made the change to add an extra player in 7v7 & 9v9 they also made the field smaller. Yep thanks for that logic US Soccer, just like suspending a players First Amendment rights that was brilliant!
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Sept 25, 2017 8:05:02 GMT -5
There are no official rankings or standings for Academy games so don't worry. Yes it sucks & not great sportsmanship but worst things can and will happen in a Georgia Soccer game. This is something your coach should have addressed with the Ref as well as his players. Even with 9Us I tell players to always stand on the field because there's always enough parents to go chase balls. As well as to put extra soccer balls in their bags so the only ones out are the game balls at midfield. Honestly that's kind of on your team for chasing balls instead of staying on the field or finding out who's throw in it was before getting a ball. Going forward the new custom should be for parents to go get out of bound balls instead of players on the field. Even if a ball is visible but a fields length away I'll tell my players to grab the other game ball and let a spectator get the original one.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Sept 14, 2017 23:55:27 GMT -5
Yeah Atlanta has some great girls teams but Tophat was the best of the best when it comes to reputation and history. Shame to see all that changing though with the NASA merger. I have a Hatter alum on my staff and she even sees the difference after just a handful of games from tournament and last weekend. Just seems to be two different philosophies fighting each other. Kind of like Cobb FC post SSA merger, and norcross post Ufa merger. Just sad as one of those few that grew up playing in Atlanta during the 80s and 90s to see all these local clubs being folded into a massive corporation.
Totally different experience than Bobby Dodd. Am I crazy that I liked Bobby Dodd better...
Yea, I can see the field better at Mercedes, but everything is so much further away. The field level is lower so visibility is better, but it makes everything more distant. I had no obstructed site lines like I did at Bobby Dodd though.
I just like open air stadiums, maybe it will be different if the roof is ever open.
The ring is obviously ridiculously huge and in my opinion completely unnecessary (at least from my seats). Its very awkward to look up at.
Soccer is meant to be played outside on grass, not indoors and surely not indoors on turf --- there I said it..
Completely Agree! Only been to Bobby Dodd for GaTech and Beat games though. Soccer should be outside which should be interesting since my bet is the Dome is never fixed to open up.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Sept 11, 2017 15:25:05 GMT -5
The 11v11 argument is very easy to win. If 9v9 until U15 was good enough for Messi then it should be more then plenty good enough for the rest of the world and especially US Soccer. Someone higher up needs to grow a pair and make this push especially with all the other changes in the last two years.
Post by JumpJumpKeep311 on Aug 31, 2017 15:13:04 GMT -5
Ok so here's a question, are DA players considered Ga Soccer players? or are they different like ECNL/US Club players are? I ask because if they are under the GA Soccer umbrella then don't they have to fall under this rule from GA Soccer too?
530.3f Select: Each eligible player must play a minimum of half a match, if he/she meets reasonable practice participation requirements set by their club/association. For 15U and older teams, this will not apply at the Classic I and Athena A levels.
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May 1, 2017 23:33:49 GMT -5
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Jun 19, 2017 10:32:25 GMT -5
soccerdad11: if we have committed to a club and has been accepted to another club will they let us transfer?
Jun 27, 2017 10:46:37 GMT -5
prekiwasnogood: Have you signed and paid registration soccerdad11?
Jun 27, 2017 13:05:25 GMT -5
soccerdad11: yes signed and paid
Jun 28, 2017 10:49:17 GMT -5
SoccerMom: you can transfer but you won't get a refund
Jun 28, 2017 14:54:14 GMT -5
soccerdad11: thanks - i am ok with no refund i just dont want to be told they will not let us transfer
Jun 29, 2017 10:37:14 GMT -5
SoccerMom: as long as you are paid in full, they have to let you transfer. If they don't you go to Georgia Soccer and they will do transfer
Jul 5, 2017 8:53:19 GMT -5
reinalocura: Most clubs will let you transfer if you pay in full. Some are not willing to do so. It depends upon the club. Alas.
Jul 6, 2017 23:20:53 GMT -5
m22: Can teams play on both NPL and SRPL during the same season?
Sept 19, 2017 12:06:37 GMT -5
Soccerhouse: to post a tweet in a post -- its as simple as over, just cut n paste the twitter link in the body of the post
Oct 3, 2017 12:36:21 GMT -5
zizou: US Men's program has done following since 2011: Missed 2 Olympics, missed U17 World Cup, missed U20 World Cup, missed 2018 Senior World Cup. Is this trajectory USSF is looking for? Don't worry, DA only been going 10 yrs. Just give it more time.
Oct 10, 2017 23:22:01 GMT -5
Soccerhouse: Mens program is in great shape, right where we want to be. Nothing needs to change. Missing world cups, and olympics etc.......
Oct 13, 2017 8:53:03 GMT -5
teenie: I think its become an elitist sport in the USA not for kids with one parent there are so many potentially young under 12 great players at the rec level with no money or parents to take them on these expensive and time consuming club trips
Oct 30, 2017 11:17:43 GMT -5
GAME OVER @ 14 yrs old. : US values: arrogance, showy skills no game sense,height. Favorites in small national pool(picked young) Every kid is finished at 14. Developers die on vine, brains,hustle,game sense and grit need not apply. You must leave US, or game over at 14.
Nov 8, 2017 10:43:33 GMT -5