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Post by Keeper on Oct 10, 2022 15:54:28 GMT -5
You are correct. NASA played essentially half the game (if not a little more) with one man up so they certainly had the advantage but could not capitalize. Teams succeed when they treat each other as teammates and play as a team. Kids become better players when they know what they have to improve on. Parents can support their kids when they know what is going on with team. None of this is going on, hence the drastic turnaround from last year. Question: Isn't this the same coach as last year? How are things different if it's the same coach? Is there new players? New parent dynamic? What has changed on this team that they are so different from last year? Same coach, couple new players, 2 returners with ACLs another injured from Premier on Saturday. And about 4 ECRL players called up too
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Post by Keeper on Oct 10, 2022 15:52:19 GMT -5
Two Concorde and NASA players got tangled up halfway into the 1st half. NASA player gets a red, Concorde player initially gets a yellow. After conferring with the AR on the other half of the field (🤷🏻♂️), ref changes Concorde player’s yellow to straight red. Later in the half, Concorde player gets a second yellow for a foul so half finishes with 10 NASA players, 9 Concorde players. With 5-10 minutes left in the 2nd half, NASA player gets two yellow cards back to back for mouthing off to the ref. Both teams finish with 9 on the field. Concorde 3, NASA 0. pretty typical to ask the AR what s/he saw in a “tangled up” situation. Ref didn’t ask AR2 who was 10 feet from it, only with talking to AR1 who was 50 yards away that he gave the nasa player a straight Red.
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Post by Keeper on Oct 10, 2022 15:50:51 GMT -5
Respectfully, I think the boys did decide the outcome. Concorde controlled the game and even scored playing with a man down. 3-0 is a decisive win. Not sure what happened but that NASA 08-team is a shell of what I remember from last year. Watch the Veo. Ref dictated the game with numerous home cooking calls from the 2 minute mark. Add in him taking one of NASA’s top players out on a bogus call. Then the CF 2nd goal never should have happened, the GK clearly had two hands on the ball which the AR called but the Ref refused to overturn the goal. Again had the boys been able to play it would have been a game, but the Ref’s ego decided otherwise. NASA 08s have two out with ACLs and on Saturday Premier hacked on a couple others so one starter was nursing a serious injury.
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Post by Keeper on Oct 9, 2022 22:40:08 GMT -5
I don’t have scores but NASA won U13, 14, 17. Platinum won U15, 16, 19. These games were all really close and most were 1 goal games either way. Interesting that the the current U15 and U16 NASA teams who both finished first in their division last year are struggling under Austin this year. The U15 game turned out to be a red card frenzy without any malicious or dangerous plays by either team. Yeah Red card frenzy from an egotistical ref. Would have loved to seen the players decide the game instead of the center Ref.
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Post by Keeper on Oct 9, 2022 22:36:29 GMT -5
That place has been a revolving door of coaches and players for years. Worst thing they did was fire the McNabs years ago, Neil ended building up Chiefs and now run Rush Union. Every great coach leaves within a year or two and they barely field teams at U13s so maybe for U8-U10 but top players leave when they realize it’s just a Rec club.
Go to Rush Union or GSA if you’re in that area.
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Post by Keeper on Oct 5, 2022 9:30:18 GMT -5
Actually, your first line is largely accurate. "The road ahead for talented male youth players in the US seems to not exist," should be written instead. US Soccer is all about networking and marketing! It's about having a parent, coach, teammate's dad, mom, cousin, or college roommate who dares to do a favor, gives you a second look, or just likes your parents and performs their job, I'll say this also, we have what we have today because of that, along with a terrible network of scouts and scouting. While I'm glad that AU is in our backyard, to give the unjaded local lads the belief that they can make the first team if they work hard and concentrate on their craft. It's truly impossible to say the best players across the board are at AU. There are lads that can match-up at almost every level, but for one reason or another(usually finances and scouting) they never get a chance at the top levels. Therefore they don't get a chance to be seen or get that one-in-a-million chance. Get your highly brilliant child to Europe right away if he or she is head and shoulders above both his or her peers and older non-peers! Everyone worth their salt in the world tries to travel to the US to try to wrangle a spot in the NBA since the NBA has the best basketball players. Get your child to Europe if it is a sincere passion and calling for him. They will at least gain an experience unlike any other, develop as a player, and perhaps even succeed. One final thing and a true test is do they consistently make the US Nat'l team? If the answer is no, please recognize that Junior may only be destined for an MLS Academy Homegrown signing where careers go to die in the USL, or College... p.s. The World is catching up to our Women btw In 3-5 years if your boys club is not MLS Next affiliated you will be second tier in US Soccer hierarchy. That’s not necessarily a bad thing to have a clear top tier across the country. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 in 3-5 years MLSNext will be replaced with the next DA. Or will be exclusively MLS clubs only.
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Post by Keeper on Oct 4, 2022 10:23:37 GMT -5
NASA being nasa there. Money goes a long way.
Couple were 50/50, definitely a lot missed too. The Yellow was odd though.
This isn’t just Ga Refs though, been homecooked like that nearly every time at BUSA.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 27, 2022 22:24:32 GMT -5
Pretty sure E64 is suppose to be a supplemental league like the old NPL days. 7-8 games in between SCCL/ECRL type seasons to get USClub players back in the USYS system.
Quote from E64 site,
“Up to 14 league games over a 10-month season, with a schedule created to aid a player’s periodization and involvement in high school soccer.”
So I wouldn’t be surprised to see 5-6 in the Fall, 3-4 in January and then 3-4 in April/May/June.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 26, 2022 17:14:16 GMT -5
If you’re a soccer family playing at E64 level then yes everything revolves around soccer so of course your weekends are soccer weekends. And the blame is USYS, as this is the same people that runs National League. Elite 64 is more chaotic than the time I watched my kid play in a 7 v 11 game. My youngest plays ECNL and my oldest plays E64. The issue is not that there are games every weekend. From late August - Mid December I'm marked as busy on every calendar I have. I expect that. The issue with E64 at least in this region is the lack of communication and planning ahead. OLC (girls side) dropped out of E64. Meaning we are down from the original 10 games promised to 8. We are headed to Florida with a TBD on our schedule for the first day. Our club has attempted to makeup for this by adding at least one "E64 Friendly" to the schedule. I assume more will be added. The game is scheduled for early Oct. It's late Sept and we just got the info. NCYFC and CSA are in the middle of their HS season and cannot field a full team for the fall so those games have been moved to Jan. Right about the time that kids here will start HS season. Down from 8 games this fall to 5 as both clubs have dropped out but we gained one through friendlies. I hope that games scheduled for January will happen, though who is to say that it won't be us with player issues? To compare to ECNL. We got her schedule in mid August and it has not changed and there is no talk of it changing. I couldn't even begin to imagine a team dropping out of ECNL because it could not field enough players. GA, NC, and FL three different HS seasons. GA - Spring. NC - Fall. FL - Winter. I don't understand how USYS could have overlooked something that big. Maybe they were under the assumption that players would be dying to play on their teams so they would risk their standing during their HS season. I begin to blame clubs when it comes to the communication of issues. If USYS is having internal issues, let parents know. Don't go along as though everything is alright and then add in games last minute to try and makeup for what USYS screwed up. Parents are fed up (at least on my team). Several have asked for refunds. My kid is one of the most committed players I know. Has never missed a practice or a game. She is talking about quitting. This also has to do with the coach, but that combined with the disorganization of the league is too much for her. Is the lack of communication USYS or AFU related? ECNL is still the best League around.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 26, 2022 11:01:26 GMT -5
E64 scheduling is a cluster. I can't understand why the schedule isn't locked down with times and places with it already being the Fall. It's like these leagues expect parents to pick up and drop everything to make plans around a fluid soccer schedule. For the registration fees and travel expenses that are being incurred, the whole thing is unacceptable. I'm not sure where the fault lies. USYS or the club. Maybe both. Other leagues are better organized. If you’re a soccer family playing at E64 level then yes everything revolves around soccer so of course your weekends are soccer weekends. And the blame is USYS, as this is the same people that runs National League.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 26, 2022 10:59:01 GMT -5
I hope they have consulted "soccer" people and don't spend millions on narrow turf/grass fields..... should be interesting, 183 acre park, the plan was for "a quadrant" of soccer fields, with cricket overlay. No idea what the current plan looks like and how much it has been scaled back.... the million dollar question -- what club is getting "ownership" of these fields....Please not concorde please not concorde! (Don’t they run the Newtown/Johns Creek soccer Rec programs?)
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Post by Keeper on Sept 25, 2022 20:45:03 GMT -5
Ambush all the way. Minus the coaching and “level” business, their U8 junior academy is all in house so limited travel. Mostly on turf too between North and Webb Bridge. Unlike concorde north which uses whatever random Elem school field they can find, and then typically gets combined with Central, Cobb and West’s academy schedule.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 21, 2022 16:42:59 GMT -5
For those who have been through the process if you haven’t received an offer but you also haven’t been told “thanks for coming but try again next year” would you expect to go to the last night of tryouts? Don’t want to show up if there is no reason to but also don’t want to miss out if there is still a chance. Email earlier this month said selections would go into early October but kid said he heard if you don’t get an email after the previous tryout then you didn’t make it. If they haven’t cut you yet, they’ll probably offer you a spot if you keep showing up. Ie they want your money.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 12, 2022 8:19:47 GMT -5
My thoughts on what will and won't work to fix the problem. Forcing kids to certify and referee younger ages in club would result in ambivalent teens standing around in the middle of the field. Not good. Some would be great, many would not. I've never liked the idea of making financial aid kids work - concession stand or anywhere else. It's not their fault the family has little $$ and it only stigmatizes them as all the teammates and clubmates would learn their status. Sure, most already know, but why throw it in their face? I'm by no means a socialist, but punishing kids for their parents issues isn't right. What will work: Each club should have a Director of Referees responsible for the recruiting, development, assigning, and maintenance of referees. How many full-time DOCs and coaches does each super club have? Tens, right, if not more. How many full-time adults focusing on referees? Zero. Most clubs have one or more assignors, which is mostly a part-time job aimed mostly at putting bodies on the field. They have neither the time or resources to recruit, develop, and assess referees. This is not a knock on any assignor - they are simply not given the tools needed. Clubs put mongo dollars into developing high level players then act surprised when there is a dearth of high level referees. Want better referees? Clubs need to open their wallets. Well the clubs are kind of starting that thanks to that USSoccer blood money. www.georgiasoccer.org/innovate-to-grow-grant/
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Post by Keeper on Sept 10, 2022 22:00:06 GMT -5
This idea is great. Also players earning financial assistance should be required to referee. I would also like to see clubs promote and even subsidize referee certification classes and uniforms. It’s not inexpensive to start working as a ref - same for annual recertification. Agreed on the annual certification costs. If you do it in December it is around 100 bucks. My son was gone from 2:30 to go to his game and got home at 6:30. Made 50 bucks over two games. That is just over 12 bucks an hour, or the starting hourly wage to work at mc donalds. Anyways, he would need to work a full eight hours just to get to break even on his recertification without needing a watch, shorts, socks, flags, cards, yellow, green, etc jersey... In the end the actual hourly wage sucks. I am not sure why anyone thinks its a good job? The ONLY reason I even have my son do it is, its a low commitment way to make some extra money and lets him learn to deal with aholes. This is all relative to kids looking for some extra money not the serious refs doing a U17 ECNL game. Only $50 for two games? Jeez poor kid is at one of those clubs that pay their Refs terribly. I mean you can ARs two U13 games for at least $50 and that’s only 3 hours.
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Post by Keeper on Sept 9, 2022 18:44:50 GMT -5
So many assignors hoping for rain!
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Post by Keeper on Sept 8, 2022 10:25:41 GMT -5
Right on the heels of Miles Robinson getting arrested at The Battery over the weekend 🤦♂️ There has to be more to the story --- took a $5 shot and then refused to pay for it. come on nobody in his near vicinity just pony upped the 5 bucks. and then how can you get arrest over $5, doesn't seem possible. how can a cop waste so much time and effort for $5 bucks and again, nobody else was willing to just say here, take my 5 bucks. If i was there, I'd given the $5 bucks to resolve the matter. very odd. and back to Josef -- dude's furious, he's pissed off. I love the emotion, shows he cares, can't say that for most of this team besides Gutman, whose salary is 18th on the roster.... Injury or not, this team went from the envy of the league to the cellar. Arrogance goes a long way. Same for Martinez. And he doesn’t deserve a statue, if anything this shows why Almiron should get one while Martinez was just a role player.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 28, 2022 20:15:12 GMT -5
Was told SSA doesn’t allow it.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 25, 2022 23:20:45 GMT -5
ECNL-RL is not the problem. Campbell and Nuno at Gsa are the problem. You have to remember that Ambush, Santos, Rush, AFC, and a couple others pushed for ECNL-RL but it was vetoed by GSA since that would open them up to adding ECNL in later years. Sidebar - I have seen comments like this before. Is there merit to this assumed influence that GSA/Concorde have over ECNL decisions (boys)? Are they really able to dictate who is awarded an RL or ECNL spot in the Southeast? Yes. Each of the ECNL clubs, at least the original ones, have territorial veto rights as to not water down the level. Gregg at Concorde has never seemed to care, but Campbell at Gsa has always been adamant about keeping other clubs out. It’s like he knows the writing is on the wall and it’s game over when others can be treated equally.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 25, 2022 10:33:29 GMT -5
Can anyone help with the MLS Next schedules for this Fall? Have they been released to the public or is MLS following in ECNL footsteps with info.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 25, 2022 10:31:48 GMT -5
ECNL-RL is not the problem. Campbell and Nuno at Gsa are the problem. You have to remember that Ambush, Santos, Rush, AFC, and a couple others pushed for ECNL-RL but it was vetoed by GSA since that would open them up to adding ECNL in later years.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 8, 2022 13:16:49 GMT -5
Youth sports begin the season in the hottest month of the year, and I think that is just bananas, especially after a lazy summer. It's particularly scarier because most training grounds lack ice. You can halt disaster in its tracks by placing ice behind a dehydrated person's neck, between their armpits, or between their legs. This should keep them alive until the paramedics arrive, preventing a tragedy even though an ice bath is desired... I’ve said before, we need to push back to the actual seasons. Fall sports start in Sept and wrap up in Dec/Jan. I’d rather play “southern cold” game in December & January over what we through past weekend and the next few weekends. . Spring games should go to June or at least the beginning of Summer in late June. August always be an off season month.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 5, 2022 20:08:53 GMT -5
According to the ECNL website, Concorde has 19 players on platinum. That means assuming no injuries, 1 player per game will have to sit out. Are you saying there are more than the 19 players listed on the roster? I believe there are 22 players. 3 are goalies, couple ACL issues. One of the goalies is an 08, and there are unofficially two other 08s that play up. I think two of the players don’t even live in Georgia. So they may be fine if they play just one goalie at 16-18 players. Still sounds like a mess. They can all club pass to the RL teams, not sure if a Platinum to Premier club pass works so with 4 teams I’m sure they’ll find them spots to play.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 1, 2022 17:21:32 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Jul 30, 2022 8:39:18 GMT -5
This is the Champion League team list for U13s. SCCL brackets and game dates got released today. Could you list the U13 champions league teams for boys? SSA 10B Blue-HA Atlanta Fire 2010B Elite Alpharetta Ambush SC B10 Red NTH NASA 10 SCCL Elite Roswell Santos '10 Boys First Team CF 10B SCCL Champions GSA 10B Premier UFA 10B Red Rush Union B2010 Rush
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Post by Keeper on Jul 29, 2022 23:24:30 GMT -5
Ufa 11 Premier is playing U13 champions league. Couple 2010 coaches not at all happy and they expected them to take the U13 ECRL spot. NTH Tophat 10 SCCL Yellow GSA 10G Premier CF 11G South Black 10G SSA Yellow-TW UFA 11G Premier NTH Tophat 11 Pre GA Gold UFA 10G Red Atlanta Fire 2010G Elite Rush Union G2010 Royal So does this mean the Tophat 2011s are playing up in SCCL-C? I’m confused what this list represents. This is the Champion League team list for U13s. SCCL brackets and game dates got released today.
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Post by Keeper on Jul 29, 2022 23:23:29 GMT -5
Ufa 11 Premier is playing U13 champions league. Couple 2010 coaches not at all happy and they expected them to take the U13 ECRL spot. NTH Tophat 10 SCCL Yellow GSA 10G Premier CF 11G South Black 10G SSA Yellow-TW UFA 11G Premier NTH Tophat 11 Pre GA Gold UFA 10G Red Atlanta Fire 2010G Elite Rush Union G2010 Royal I heard from a UFA 10G Red parent that they were going to do P1. What about Ambush? Tennessee and Alabama teams? I think they (U13 parents) would be super pissed if they took the U13 ECRL spot. Ambush Red (what’s left of it) dropped to P1. No Tenn, Alabama or oddly Concorde 2010s in SCCL.
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Post by Keeper on Jul 29, 2022 19:12:37 GMT -5
I would say UFA for 2009. Tophat for 2010. I have a 2010 and know many 2009. I am not sure for 2008. UFA 2011 team is very very strong but played up last year for regular season and struggled a little in tournaments against their own age group. Rumor is they will play U13 SCCL Champions League but not sure how many games they will play against their own age group and whether those will be 11v11 or 9v9. Personally not sure if playing up is the right thing for them. Anyone know is GSA or CF 2011 playing up? Ufa 11 Premier is playing U13 champions league. Couple 2010 coaches not at all happy and they expected them to take the U13 ECRL spot. NTH Tophat 10 SCCL Yellow GSA 10G Premier CF 11G South Black 10G SSA Yellow-TW UFA 11G Premier NTH Tophat 11 Pre GA Gold UFA 10G Red Atlanta Fire 2010G Elite Rush Union G2010 Royal
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Post by Keeper on Jul 19, 2022 23:00:26 GMT -5
Tryouts = this is how much it costs and we take all paying customers. Since Kostas took over I haven’t heard of any players getting cut from the pool.
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Post by Keeper on Jun 27, 2022 23:20:28 GMT -5
On the girls side, other than Concorde bringing home the Natty in U18/19 and a few exceptions here and there, things are not going so well for the SE teams at ECNL Nationals: U17--no SE teams advanced out of group stage U16--Concorde Platinum advanced to knockout stage but lost in round of 16. U15--no SE teams advanced out of group stage U14--Concorde Platinum advanced out of group. Knockout game is tomorrow U13--2 NC teams advanced out of group stage. Champs! True but I believe some of the U17 teams were somewhat unlucky as they were 2-1 but did not advance due to goal differential. I was surprised that both the UFA U13 teams (ECNL and ECRL) were not able to do better given their 20-1-1 SE region records. That is concerning. I do find the timing on these championships frustrating as many teams are not the same ones that played all season. This is true for GA, ECNL and USYS as well. completely agree that our season ends to early buts mainly a southern thing. Our tryouts and the season should be pushed back. Have tryouts start July 1 instead of May 1. Push the season to end after school ends, or when the rest of the country finishes the school year. Then the teams that earned those spots actually play in these championships vs new players looking to make a name. That and who wouldn’t rather play games in December then August.
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