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Post by infoguy on Feb 12, 2021 7:57:06 GMT -5
I would imagine send the staff/scouting team footage of the player. That's how even the big sports (football, basketball, baseball) get their first eyes on a player. If they show something on tape, then they send someone to watch them play. Hard enough to get a college coach’s eye on someone playing in the U.S. when it comes to soccer, harder still to be seen if one lives outside the U.S. Just wondering if someone has a recommendation for a service that specializes in helping connect a non-U.S. player with a U.S. college coach.
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Post by infoguy on Feb 11, 2021 10:18:01 GMT -5
Is there a particular recruiting organization that is best for players from non-U.S. countries, to help gain the interest of U.S college soccer coaches?
It was hard enough for my son, even here in the U.S.!
Thanks,
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Post by infoguy on Apr 16, 2020 6:41:35 GMT -5
So although ECNL is going to absorb a lot of teams, MLS teams would attract the top youth players? USL clubs (as opposed to MLS teams that also field USL teams) don’t seem to have youth teams?
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Post by infoguy on Jan 15, 2020 12:34:07 GMT -5
I wish DA/GDA would allow kids the opportunity to represent their schools. I know they are 10+ month programs but maybe they could have a light schedule in the spring to allow for high school ball. The camaraderie, memories and feeling of representing you local school definitely create memories that last a lifetime... I believe USSDA now "allows" via a waiver: see page 11 of www.ussoccerda.com/doclib/2019-20%20DEVELOPMENT%20ACADEMY%20RULES%20AND%20REGULATIONS.pdf
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Post by infoguy on Nov 14, 2019 9:11:22 GMT -5
CF needs SSA’s coaches and SSA coaches want CF’s players. Why do SSA coaches think the merger would give them CF players? Best boys will still play DA then ECNL. Best girls play ECNL then NPL and SCCL. They would have the same ECNL teams and SCCL teams likely. They would get better players to play NPL perhaps. The rest of the players will still go to nearest location. If you have two ECNL teams and two SCCL and two SCCL P teams how does that change anything? Unless they go to one ECNL team, one SCCL team and keep the one NPL team I don't see how it benefits them quality wise. The merger would create a pool of players, arguably better pool than what ssa has now, and then the SSA coaches with UEFA license and experience playing/coaching in the BPL would coach the top teams. That’s my thought if there is a merger. Right now with the alliance, some SSA coaches are coaching Concorde’s boy DA and ECNL teams. And I understand that SSA coaches continue to coach ECNL girls teams.
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Post by infoguy on Nov 13, 2019 19:23:17 GMT -5
CF needs SSA’s coaches and SSA coaches want CF’s players.
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Post by infoguy on Oct 28, 2019 6:19:18 GMT -5
Aren’t those leagues run by US Club? To me it looks like US Club will takeover the State Association. Not exactly a Trojan horse.. My fault for a bad joke. My point was that those leagues are so bad, they may pave the way for other alternatives. That crossover weekend y'all. I wouldnt be surprised if I found out a middle school class president ran it. Not sure which leagues you believe are bad, but overall I would say the administration by U.S. Club Soccer is excellent. There will be issues to deal with by individual clubs that over-protect their fields, etc. and flaky coaches that want to reschedule because they coach too many teams. I think U.S. Club has already taken over. I'm OK with DA + U.S. Club Soccer in GA.
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Post by infoguy on Oct 15, 2019 6:14:04 GMT -5
I would say that this is one thing that we can all agree on, juggling is an important cornerstone.
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Post by infoguy on Oct 15, 2019 6:09:52 GMT -5
Clubs don't develop players, players develop themselves. It's all about hard work and dedication. Some players may develop through osmosis and some take hundreds of hows of private training. But it always takes hard work in the end to prove oneself.
I agree in the sense that there are enough quality clubs that will teach players enough of the right things. It's the player that needs to touch the ball and go to kick-arounds in between the scheduled practices. I believe the clubs that are the most successful are the ones that are able to recruit players. All this talk about AU and what to give them credit for, I could say the same thing about some of the other major clubs. For instance, SSA arguably has the best coaches in the Atlanta area (for real, actual BPL player and coaching experience), but they can't accomplish what CF has accomplished in Atlanta.
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Post by infoguy on Oct 11, 2019 11:54:15 GMT -5
Let's get back to GA Soccer now. Anyone no why the leadership change? And what's going to happen to GA Soccer?
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Post by infoguy on Oct 7, 2019 6:20:40 GMT -5
To get to your original question:
My son (HS senior) has one D3 offer, which he is seriously considering, and the coach told us that he first became interested in my son based on his video highlight reel, which is posted on his NCSA profile. NCSA is worth the money alone, just to search and use their database of universities/colleges with soccer programs. After a personal invite to one of their ID camps (I stress personal), they liked what they saw and after another camp, they made an offer toward the end of his Junior year. This is also after a number of emails back and forth, not letting the ball drop from our end. It felt right the whole time.
My son has been in competitive leagues, but not DA. So really, coaches have only shown up at the big showcase tournaments. We tried a number of methods, such as multi-school ID camps, etc. None of those things bore fruit for us, but it's not to say that others aren't ID'd through those channels. Bottom line (my take): DA games and showcases are where the D1 coaches go to seriously recruit with their limited time.
It's OK for you/your son to be direct to gauge the genuineness of emails, etc. We've let coaches know that we are interested in their program, when we get these mass emails, but we won't blindly travel up to NE just to go to a one day ID camp, unless they can express their level of interest and what they know about my son. You'll know what's real and what's not over time.
Good luck, and PM if you have other questions about our specific experience.
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Post by infoguy on Oct 2, 2019 11:08:54 GMT -5
Looked pretty good today away against Mizzou. Can't argue with the scoreline and the parts that I watched (AU was on too so I only caught 25 minutes of UGA game) Georgia looked pretty strong. Maybe I am being overly optimistic, but they look like they are improving. Yes, they are doing fairly well. I'm sure the girls on the team are loving it, since it seems to me like they're in every game. And, they go to one badass University.
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Post by infoguy on Sept 23, 2019 14:47:37 GMT -5
My son played this last year but their team also played in the National League also so they played plenty of games. If they only played 7 games, that's not good. This age group tends to have a lot of players that just don't show up and either do not tell the coach or teammates ahead of time. This is also when a lot of kids, just lose the soccer fever due to Senioritis.
Yes, senioritis is also at play here, but wonder if somehow because they feel like they've been left in the dust.
BTW: How did your son's team play in the USYS/NL and ECNL? Not sure that's possible.
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Post by infoguy on Sept 23, 2019 6:37:48 GMT -5
For those of you with sons coming of age, buyer beware:
Only 8 clubs fielded teams in the ECNL Boys Composite U19 league, which translates to only 7 regular season games. This 7-game schedule combined with the fact that ECNL Comp teams do not play in the ECNL Showcases, all for the same price as the full-on ECNL teams (which play over 20 games/season), is not what was advertised. Although my son's team is going to the Raleigh and Disney showcases in December, I recommend that any of you with boys coming of age to avoid this league. It seems to be a fast, dying elephant.
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Post by infoguy on Sept 4, 2019 6:29:42 GMT -5
ECNL Officers President: Christian Lavers Vice President: Doug Bracken Secretary and Treasurer: Jason Dewhurst Thanks, any listing of the Board members?
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Post by infoguy on Sept 3, 2019 20:50:54 GMT -5
Does anyone know where I can find a list of board members?
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Post by infoguy on Aug 7, 2019 11:31:53 GMT -5
I don't know why, but it proves to me that fields has nothing to with being one of the best/popular clubs. Roswell SC has always tried to promote itself as one of the best clubs because of its fields. And while the fields are great, it's administration by the City places huge obstacles to the club's growth, etc. That's to say that field quality is a proven non-factor.
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Post by infoguy on Jul 26, 2019 7:45:23 GMT -5
I've thought about this pay-to-play discussion many times over the years and how talent is left out of club leagues because of the cost. I follow that logic, but I often doubt that this is the MAIN reason that men's soccer in USA isn't "competitive" with Spain, Germany, et al (many, many others). Interestingly, U.S. Women's soccer IS the best in the world. And the clubs in our parts don't treat girl parents any differently than boy parents (i.e., equally exclusive, believe me). In fact, since the U.S. is a rich/developed country with a modern-minded society, girls in the U.S. have the opportunity to play (not to suggest that we've totally reached gender equality).
All said, I believe the key reason for where we are is due to our culture. U.S. soccer competes with certain sports more so than other countries - baseball (girls softball), football (boys), basketball and now lacrosse. With all due respect to our kids that play soccer, if some of these other sports' athletes were to focus primarily on soccer, I do believe it would be a different story. For instance, in Venezuela, in contrast to other South American countries, it is principally a baseball culture and numerous Venezuelans play MLB.
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Post by infoguy on Jul 2, 2019 19:18:15 GMT -5
U19B National Champion is an NPL team.
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Post by infoguy on Jul 2, 2019 6:27:19 GMT -5
Interesting post, because I've been paying attention to ECNL vs. NPL teams (on the boys side). U19B finals today, for instance, features an NPL team vs. and ECNL team.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 29, 2019 19:06:19 GMT -5
Who is the best player since then? This is a debate that could go on and on... is it Rapinoe? Meh... lots of choices... idk. Hope Solo? Abby Wambach? Carly Lloyd? Interesting question to me. Rapinoe - no debate. The best player on field.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 13, 2019 12:42:24 GMT -5
I said concorde/ssa Ssa has Npl no? For SSA, the NPL is their slot - as the ECNL teams are CF's. Players from either club can be on these teams, is my understanding. In other words, U19 boys from both clubs for example tried out at Ashford Dunwoody for SCCL, NPL, ECNL and DA.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 6, 2019 9:23:40 GMT -5
We all know you would like this and your conclusion that ECNL is superior based on your experiences. But nationwide, arguments can be made that ECNL teams are not universally superior to NPL. I believe that ENPL was created to compare/contrast the teams. Seems to me that we had something very close to a promotion/relegation system in GA before US Club Soccer and DA exploded on the scene. RPL used to really mean something. Actually you are completely wrong. DA is the best specifically Tophat DA, and regards to ECNL despite it being good if you read the start of this thread I’m actually advocating for the top NPL teams to have a chance to replace the bottom ECNL teams. So maybe you need help with your reading comprehension. Pardon, I thought the discussion was about ECNL and NPL, and how that could be a relegation system. I brought up DA only to say that there was a truer relegation system in GA before it exploded, without commenting on whether it's superior to ECNL or not. You suffer from one club, one gender, and one age group tunnel vision. These leagues can't conform to your personal whims.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 6, 2019 7:31:07 GMT -5
I would love for US Club soccer to go to a promotion/relegation system for Ecnl and NPL. Bottom 1-2 of ECNL drops to NPL on an annual basis. I think would help strengthen both leagues. I feel like some of the Florida ECNL are. not holding up their end of the bargain and if relegation was on the line that would help spur competition. We all know you would like this and your conclusion that ECNL is superior based on your experiences. But nationwide, arguments can be made that ECNL teams are not universally superior to NPL. I believe that ENPL was created to compare/contrast the teams. Seems to me that we had something very close to a promotion/relegation system in GA before US Club Soccer and DA exploded on the scene. RPL used to really mean something.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 3, 2019 12:18:42 GMT -5
I love Rivah. He's from the islands, he's direct, and the real deal. He'll push the kids hard, but you want that.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 3, 2019 7:19:48 GMT -5
Several kids off of the ECNL composite team signed with D2-D3 schools. In regards to recruiting, your kid has to seek out Colleges through ID camps and communicate effectively. This should actually start around the u15 year and continue for several years, it is painful and tiring but absolutely necessary. Thanks, and I agree - we are following all the advice centering around being very proactive. It is helpful to hear that ECNL Comp players routinely receive offers. However, the crux of my question is about the exposure that ECNL Composite players have to college coaches vs. the top ECNL teams (e.g., what showcases, etc.?).
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Post by infoguy on Jun 3, 2019 7:17:10 GMT -5
What happened to this team at State Cup? They U18s won it.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 2, 2019 21:21:18 GMT -5
College coaches for the most part have their recruits for this age group completed. Some are already in college. Have a kid on u17 and the colleges are all over this age group. You may find a spot but they will be few this late in the game. Good luck. I don’t believe your statement is accurate. I think it’s somewhat dependent on the NCAA division level ... I saw a lot of college coaches watching U19s at Disney.
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Post by infoguy on May 31, 2019 12:36:33 GMT -5
Anyone with experience with this ECNL division? Particularly interested about boys’ U19 and the type of college coach exposure that the ECNL league’s composite division offers.
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Post by infoguy on May 31, 2019 12:03:57 GMT -5
which team(s) at KSA kicks/boom and chases? Thats not the style/tactic i have seen them play.. Granted, there was a few teams that used the kick long and sprint straight in primary rounds of state cup for their verison of counter-attacking / transition from keeper to striker though
The U18 did a bit of that (booming it forward), but there was also some build from the back.
From the midfield, there were a lot of flicks, poking, and whatever to get the ball forward and the vicinity of the box - where they would win 90% of the time, creating shots. More power to them.
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