It's amazing how many schools of thought are out there (here, FB, etc.), to explain the USMNT's poor showing. My pain is starting to subside a bit, and let's not forget there's no Chile, and Argentina (for instance) was almost knocked out of it. Chile, as a nation for instance, will punish some people, but doesn't necessarily need to revamp what it's doing - look who they have on their national team for God sakes.
Is there something wrong with development? I believe that major clubs in Atlanta have talented coaches for their top teams, primarily non-Americans (no offense to some outstanding American coaches that I know). As players age, these coaches aren't accepting just anyone, believe me. There are different styles, yes, let the right style win out and attract the talent. It's happening.
Is the pay-to-play system a cause? Maybe, but at the end of the day, using CF or UFA as an example, look at their teams' success in the state of GA. If they are doing it wrong, let a club that does it different (for some, the right way) knock them off their thrones.
Are the best athletes going to other sports? Yes, there are great athletes playing other sports. But the sheer number of boys playing soccer, we have a huge pool of players to draw from in state, regionally and as a nation. The sport of soccer is better for the majority of boys and girls - look what Lacrosse has done. It's stealing players from baseball and football. The great sport of soccer will take care of that as well, which we are seeing IMO.
This all to say, I think we had the wrong coach and leadership this time around, folks.
Hard to watch my son's disappointment last night. He still loves the game. But, it's hard for me also to avoid thinking that we are all just spinning our wheels here.
I'm tired of the parent vs. club blame game ("pay to play", blah blah blah). While coaches and clubs have to put up with the AMERICAN-WIN-WIN mentality, some of us parents are innocently trying to navigate the system that allowed all of these leagues, levels, etc.
It's time for the USSF to place a tourniquet on USSDA, reduce/control the number of teams so it will actually accomplish its mission. And honestly, ODP should cherry pick from the USSDA player pool. Everything else should be intra state soccer.
***GB is not on the board, I confused him with Troy Garner... how I do not know.
I think what I have discovered is Georgia is to blame for our weird youth soccer landscape. Reading around different blogs on the webbernets I think some state soccer orgs mandated to not cross the streams. If I remember Arizona may be one of those places.
Do you mean for clubs not to have every league? Like CF has RPL, ECNL and DA...
All these leagues available for our kids, I'm generally OK with it.
I think it becomes an issue when a club has all leagues. If your club applies for ECNL/ENPL, and the top team plays in that league, then the club shouldn't retain a spot in SRPL (unless you have the players at that level to field a team). I heard that DA doesn't favor the clubs that already have ECNL/ENPL, when considering which clubs to add to the league. Makes sense, they want that club's non-diluted best.
So, it seems that the clubs that have ENPL also retain their RPL slots. Can someone explain how the heck they were able to do so, assuming that USYS would require a certain level of player for RPL, if most RPL players from last year's team are on the club's ENPL team?
No difference. The S just specifies the southern region.
So if RPL and SRPL are the same thing, that mean's spectator's hierarchy of youth soccer is this:
1. Top Team - DA 2. Second Team - ECNL/ENPL 3. Third Team - SRPL 4. Fourth Team - Classic 1/Athena A 5. Fifth Team - Classic 2/Athena B and so on down the scale
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
So, I think it's important for us to understand, so that our boys understand, the only formal hierarchy listed above are items 3-5. Items 1 - 3 represent different leagues, and on any given day, a club's top team can beat another club's top team. DA is a bit more obvious, but again, any given day. I did hear that clubs won't be allowed to carry both DA and ECNL/ENPL moving forward.
Since the question was asked, here's my understanding:
To call the Premier Division "SRPL" or "SPL" and First Division "RPL" is technically wrong, although I know what people mean when they say it.
SRPL is USYS Region 3 (Southern Regional Premier League) - some say R3PL, which I think was used at some point in the past to abbreviate Region 3. There are SRPL sub-regions, and we are East. East has 2 divisions: Premier and First.
So how will this work for placement in the c1, c2 and below if these teams with ecnl move their c1 players to ecnl? Will ga soccer account for this and drop them to lower divisions?
I think the same question is for clubs with RPL teams that move their top team to ENPL. For instance, why should the club retain their spot in RPL if those players are no longer around to play at that level? Unless, they recruit a bunch of kids that played RPL last year. Everything I've heard is that it's about the players. Some clubs, like GSA, are advertising both ENPL and RPL. They didn't have 2 RPL teams at a certain age level, so not sure how they can post this info for that age level on their tryout page.
Yes in theory, but was under the impression they could only play if they quit DA etc.
At the younger ages for most clubs, and all ages for CF, a club pass is easy - the players are already there. I am not sure if it matters whether some quit - the DA season is over, and the club wants to help the club.
For AU, they let kids go, and I know of one club that snatched at least one up very quickly. I guess some could have quit ...
Was there a "great team" this year? Seems with age change, as you said, but also AU sending a ripple wave through all the clubs, I don't believe there was one club team in particular that ruled any age group.
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soccerdad11: if we have committed to a club and has been accepted to another club will they let us transfer?
Jun 27, 2017 10:46:37 GMT -5
prekiwasnogood: Have you signed and paid registration soccerdad11?
Jun 27, 2017 13:05:25 GMT -5
soccerdad11: yes signed and paid
Jun 28, 2017 10:49:17 GMT -5
SoccerMom: you can transfer but you won't get a refund
Jun 28, 2017 14:54:14 GMT -5
soccerdad11: thanks - i am ok with no refund i just dont want to be told they will not let us transfer
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SoccerMom: as long as you are paid in full, they have to let you transfer. If they don't you go to Georgia Soccer and they will do transfer
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reinalocura: Most clubs will let you transfer if you pay in full. Some are not willing to do so. It depends upon the club. Alas.
Jul 6, 2017 23:20:53 GMT -5
m22: Can teams play on both NPL and SRPL during the same season?
Sept 19, 2017 12:06:37 GMT -5
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Oct 3, 2017 12:36:21 GMT -5
zizou: US Men's program has done following since 2011: Missed 2 Olympics, missed U17 World Cup, missed U20 World Cup, missed 2018 Senior World Cup. Is this trajectory USSF is looking for? Don't worry, DA only been going 10 yrs. Just give it more time.
Oct 10, 2017 23:22:01 GMT -5
Soccerhouse: Mens program is in great shape, right where we want to be. Nothing needs to change. Missing world cups, and olympics etc.......
Oct 13, 2017 8:53:03 GMT -5
teenie: I think its become an elitist sport in the USA not for kids with one parent there are so many potentially young under 12 great players at the rec level with no money or parents to take them on these expensive and time consuming club trips
Oct 30, 2017 11:17:43 GMT -5
GAME OVER @ 14 yrs old. : US values: arrogance, showy skills no game sense,height. Favorites in small national pool(picked young) Every kid is finished at 14. Developers die on vine, brains,hustle,game sense and grit need not apply. You must leave US, or game over at 14.
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