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Post by infoguy on Jun 2, 2018 6:30:15 GMT -5
With this new alliance, was it ever confirmed that SSA was getting ECNL for certain age groups? I’ve heard them getting ECNL for u-13 & u-14. Did I miss this somewhere? No change in league status for SSA is my understanding.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 2, 2018 6:29:00 GMT -5
No, but prob u17.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 1, 2018 13:41:24 GMT -5
I definitely agree. But, as a parent, I've had to "play the game" and navigate this crazy system that I didn't create. And I have to create opportunities for my son, so he has options like other kids his age. It all seems a bit crazy and puts pressure on him, but I have to do these things so he's playing the best youth soccer he can. I don't think he would've enjoyed these years if I hadn't inserted myself in the process.
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Post by infoguy on Jun 1, 2018 10:40:02 GMT -5
I've been trying to post a pic, but no biggie - here's what I wanted to share:
Georgia Soccer posted a pic of a GSA boy with an ECNL logo on the back of his jersey playing at State Cup. Obviously, including them in your roster not taboo, and maybe they are even throwing it in some peoples' faces.
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Post by infoguy on May 31, 2018 6:21:38 GMT -5
I just thought of something maybe it’s to honor the SSA/Concorde alliance because it could be a SSA coach? Only if the majority players are SSA. Guess we should know by Monday. However, I doubt it would be an SSA coach unless Concorde really needs help with coaches. Ryan Austin could be freed up to concentrate on supporting multiple coaches/teams instead of just coaching multiple teams? I think that could be a possibility in a merger, but not an alliance. Different organizations, and they want to keep their leagues, coaches and not mix money.
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Post by infoguy on May 29, 2018 18:00:17 GMT -5
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Post by infoguy on May 26, 2018 5:14:11 GMT -5
Reposting:
There’s no change in league status for SSA. It’s something to tell the younger boys that play DA that there’s a pathway via CF (whereas they could’ve always and still need to tryout) and SSA can tell the younger girls that CF has 2 ECNL teams (again, girls could’ve tried out all along). CF gains by SSA officially guiding its players to CF vs UFA or let them just go without any advisement.
New:
Folks, there’s no merger or necessarily any advantage for SSA over CF players trying to make their way. Tryouts are tryouts and you will have to prove your merit if you want to stay at the top level.
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Post by infoguy on May 25, 2018 16:48:35 GMT -5
There’s no change in league status for SSA. It’s something to tell the younger boys that play DA that there’s a pathway via CF (whereas they could’ve always and still need to tryout) and SSA can tell the younger girls that CF has 2 ECNL teams (again, girls could’ve tried out all along). CF gains by SSA officially guiding its players to CF vs UFA or let them just go without any advisement.
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Post by infoguy on May 25, 2018 16:06:18 GMT -5
This announcement is mind blowing to me. Specifically, the 05 girls group...No DA now...deep pool of players currently at this age group...some concorde players are about to get hosed...even if they are allowed 2 teams in ECNL...will be very interesting to see this develop. One thing I know, with the details, is that CF would have never done this unless there's a win here for them. There's been a lot of discussion about SSA 05 Girls. OK, in that context, CF will have a better chance of maintaining 2 competitive ECNL girls teams.
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Post by infoguy on May 25, 2018 15:52:57 GMT -5
So, I do think SSA did this to in fact open up ECNL to its older boys/girls, since there's no DA at those ages. I'm sure CF, now that they dropped GDA, they would love to draw from SSA's girl players' pool. And SSA possibly could be the lead for boys' ECNL? Yes, the SSA boys would compete, and the result would be a stronger team for both sides (IMO). But why would CF want to draw from SSA girls pool when they now have less elite spots to offer by giving up DA? Unless they anticipate losing a lot of girls, I can’t see the advantage to CF players in doing this because now there is more competition for less spots. What am I missing? So, I did ask myself the question: What's in it for CF? I think if they want 2 ECNL teams on girls' side, and a solid and competitive 2 teams, then drawing from SSA girls' pool would be extremely beneficial.
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Post by infoguy on May 25, 2018 15:51:14 GMT -5
Think Concorde/SSA will have 2 Girls ECNL teams in each age group. Maybe for boys too.
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Post by infoguy on May 25, 2018 14:53:59 GMT -5
Will be interesting for older age group ECNL too. I imagine there are some CF DA players who will be in the younger age groups of U16/17 and U18/19 that will be interested in ECNL. Now they will need to compete with SSA players for spots? So, I do think SSA did this to in fact open up ECNL to its older boys/girls, since there's no DA at those ages. I'm sure CF, now that they dropped GDA, they would love to draw from SSA's girl players' pool. And SSA possibly could be the lead for boys' ECNL? Yes, the SSA boys would compete, and the result would be a stronger team for both sides (IMO).
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Post by infoguy on May 25, 2018 14:45:48 GMT -5
Let's move this over to the new thread.
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Post by infoguy on May 25, 2018 14:43:32 GMT -5
But can an ECNL status just be opened up to another club that has not “earned” it? And why would CF want to do that? No one is opening status to another club. Its an alliance, like a DP. Just wait for announcement and it will make better sense. So, announcements have been made by both clubs. Of course, parents like me have more questions... I have thoughts on what it does for SSA and what it does for CF. But the announcements don't go into age levels, league levels, etc.
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Post by infoguy on May 25, 2018 14:32:18 GMT -5
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Post by infoguy on May 25, 2018 10:26:04 GMT -5
I'll say it - good job GA Soccer.
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Post by infoguy on May 25, 2018 7:20:08 GMT -5
While there are many many turf fields in metro Atlanta, they are all controlled by different entities who have different rules for use etc. Dealing with field rentals across many different managers in such a short amount of time is a hurculian task. Kudos for Ga Soccer for trying and hats off to all those who can accommodate. I suspect the attempts to move locations have been going on for a week. Maybe the goal is attainable, because GA Soccer seems to be planning well.
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Post by infoguy on May 25, 2018 6:15:51 GMT -5
To match Woodruff, it would take 11 fields?
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Post by infoguy on May 24, 2018 21:46:46 GMT -5
Our TM gave us a heads up.
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Post by infoguy on May 24, 2018 19:27:57 GMT -5
Kudos to GA Soccer for giving it a shot
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Post by infoguy on May 24, 2018 9:43:01 GMT -5
Love it. I bet that AU will try and acquire some of KSA's players. Interesting thing about KSA is whether those players/families would jump at the AU carrot. Since TA arrived he's been recruiting KSA players. There are several already playing for AU including DV who went back to KSA after the fall season. Unfortunately, a couple have returned to KSA because they felt like they were just a number. Not sure if BK will continue to work with TA bringing players over since it hasn't been a great experience for many. The realities of top level soccer are harsh and not everyone can survive the gauntlet. Interesting. Thanks. Wonder if our realities in the U.S. top level soccer are harsh, to the point where possibly a better team is outside the DA system. I go back to that article shared about DA recently - basically, if you take the joy away, players are affected.
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Post by infoguy on May 24, 2018 8:52:19 GMT -5
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Post by infoguy on May 24, 2018 6:04:19 GMT -5
Love it. I bet that AU will try and acquire some of KSA's players. Interesting thing about KSA is whether those players/families would jump at the AU carrot.
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Post by infoguy on May 24, 2018 6:01:21 GMT -5
Looks like that 18/19s have 2 ECNL teams? What do you think "ECNL Comp" means. Judging from the assigned coaches it's the second team.
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Post by infoguy on May 23, 2018 13:31:26 GMT -5
Sad for those North boys who will be playing SCCL instead of good competition. It will ruin their chances of ever playing CF DA by switching to NTH and missing out on DA and ECNL To be encouraging, just because anyone's child is switching to a club without ECNL or DA, doesn't mean that they'll never play DA or ECNL for CF or anyone other club. CF sure as heck doesn't recruit only from within, and I can tell you that things change over time. Unless you're Messi, someone who is considered a top player at U13 or U14 doesn't mean that they'll be considered tops when they're older.
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Post by infoguy on May 23, 2018 8:34:52 GMT -5
You know how it goes. The programs wait until the last moment to post Coaching assignments. Makes it that much harder for the parents and players to decide where and who they play for. We have been waiting for the NTH Boys side (NASA) to post assignments. Amazing how the Tophat side already has posted. You would think the boys would look at the girls side and copy cat.
Less and less information every year. I think parents know it's a moving target, dependent sometimes on which kids show up for tryouts in certain age groups, etc. But it helps us plan tryouts... sort of a chicken and the egg thing, it's a mess.
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Post by infoguy on May 23, 2018 7:52:44 GMT -5
Yeah right on! I quit Concord fire when they got rained out! Haha, touche! Maybe a better way to say it is that of all the tournaments in which my kids have been involved, State Cup and Disney have been the only tournaments for which I've had no criticism or disappointment. In fact, I've loved the State Cup experience as a parent over the years, and I totally credit GA Soccer for it. If they bungle this one, I'm not sure what's left for them to claim as a flagship service. They can't control weather, but they can control how they communicate and develop a back up plan.
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Post by infoguy on May 23, 2018 7:41:17 GMT -5
Concorde and SSA waiting until the very last minute? I wonder why?? Still nothing on SSA's site.
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Post by infoguy on May 22, 2018 11:07:10 GMT -5
Does anyone actually know the answer to this question posed? Weather continues to look stormy throughout the weekend.. any possibility they would try to shift games a day? Or is it more about what was thought above about shortening games/going to PKs? If PKs are used to decide State Cup, rather the GA Soccer making a real effort to reschedule the tournament, I will be even more happy to leave GA Soccer than before.
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Post by infoguy on May 22, 2018 9:38:22 GMT -5
So U18 girls could play 20 games in the fall?? Wow that's a lot, plus a tournament or two. My understanding from the SSA town hall is that an NPL showcase will be part of the season-scheduled games - it'll be a 3-game, long weekend. 3 games out of the 16 (boys side).
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