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Post by infoguy on Apr 20, 2018 9:12:18 GMT -5
Hmm, does not look like much change to me. Small change in the names and borders of the regions. And potentially a change in the staff who run these. Wasn’t SRPL a sub unit of USYS? How is the Piedmont Conference different from SRPL? I see it as just a realignment of the regions - creating more, and now they’re called conferences - still state associations under USYS with a path to the NL. I always preferred this.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 19, 2018 8:55:14 GMT -5
So for some of the big clubs, I don’t believe the SCL (Champions rumored league) is to necessarily replace the USYS RPL (newly formatted conference deal). So the 2 leagues aren’t necessarily tit for tat.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 18, 2018 18:06:26 GMT -5
This is a great win - it’s still usys, and there’s a promotion path, plus someone else is administering it with less travel.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 10, 2018 16:14:58 GMT -5
Has anyone, whether you're a team manager or through a team manager or coach, contacted a tournament and requested a change in the bracket placement? Some think don't even bother with it, but wonder if any pro-activeness has bore fruit for any of you.
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Post by infoguy on Apr 10, 2018 16:12:34 GMT -5
Thanks spectator, very thoughtful reply - thanks for taking the time to write. Curious from the boys' side too...
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Post by infoguy on Apr 9, 2018 19:05:09 GMT -5
I think all the kids will enjoy club soccer regardless of league. I think we parents are more concerned about leagues, because those of us with kids that are interested in playing college soccer are looking for exposure and building a resume. Kids aren’t savvy enough at this age.
Maybe some of you with kids that have been through all of this can chime in - do you think it matters what league? I think DA boys obviously wins out, but beyond that, who knows?
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Post by infoguy on Apr 3, 2018 8:40:35 GMT -5
The two leagues are not in competition with each other. The champion league is only for 5 clubs. Every other club in Georgia will be in RPL. If US club soccer made their leagues merit based yes us youth soccer and state leagues would be in trouble. US Club Soccer has gone after the most lucrative niche in kids soccer and by design is not trying to run the whole show. They just want to run the show where the money is. And exactly HOW are these big clubs different than US Club Siccer with regard to fillowing miney over development? This is Academy soccer 2.0. Big club play each other because they have numbers. Smaller clubs are shut out At least have the decency to call this what it is - end of the line for any club not in the “big 6” From my microcosm of the world, my kid started at a small club then moved to a large club - there is a reason why this small club is still a small club. The big club offered a level of seriousness that my kid needed at the time. The small club for which he previously played did not care to take the steps to compete at the older ages - it’s not because the evil big clubs preyed on it.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 28, 2018 13:01:17 GMT -5
I believe there are Spring games, but they are friendlies.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 28, 2018 12:11:49 GMT -5
I like surgesoccer's rumor better ;-)
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Post by infoguy on Mar 28, 2018 12:04:30 GMT -5
We've definitely covered this topic. Just more evidence that DA also dilutes the talent pool in terms of player distribution. In terms of development, I do think my kids are benefiting more so by practicing more during the week. Their game is definitely improving. It's called high school soccer. Are you saying that your kid got better with HS Soccer?? My kid learned nothing playing HS soccer last year, all they did was run to death, the coach benefited from their club training and he just sat there and watched them during the games. HS soccer is "fun" that's all. So yes, he has. My son's high school coach has helped him play out of his comfort zone, so I think he's improved in certain aspects. That said, my son's high school coach is also a DA coach of a younger aged team. So, I guess it depends on your high school's coach. If the main component of development in DA is practicing 3 or 4 times per week, then I'd say high school has matched that (assuming one has a good coach).
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Post by infoguy on Mar 27, 2018 6:18:04 GMT -5
We've definitely covered this topic. Just more evidence that DA also dilutes the talent pool in terms of player distribution.
In terms of development, I do think my kids are benefiting more so by practicing more during the week. Their game is definitely improving. It's called high school soccer.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 21, 2018 16:11:39 GMT -5
To me, with the exception of a couple to a few players, AU is exactly what's wrong with American soccer. Their CBs, for instance, are gigantic and extremely physical. Yes, they're very good. But not the best, and that's the problem. America is always about size... stupid. I have to respectfully disagree with this as it relates to the U17 CBs. Both are top level players--yeah, they are big, but they are also good with the ball and read the game very well. Many people think they are the MVPs of the AU team this year. One was a highly successful forward for GSA, who scored many goals and led that team to national finals. He started playing CB a few years ago. He is also a youth international. The other was a holding mid for the Philadelphia Union Academy until his parents moved to Atlanta for professional reasons, so he came to Georgia United. He kept growing, and now uses his midfielder skills as a CB. You say they are "not the best," but i ask "who is better?" SaveSaveThey're excellent players, I agree.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 21, 2018 6:30:50 GMT -5
Big Boy 6's They have made their move. Pulling out of Georgia Soccer with their next level teams. - AFU (ECNL) - 2nd boys and girls teams
- Concorde Fire (DA/ECNL) - 3rd boys and girls teams
- GSA (ECNL) - 2nd boys and girls teams
- NASA Tophat (DA/ECNL) - 3rd boys and girls teams
- SSA (Boys DA) - 2nd team boys for U12-U14, U15+ 1st team, and girls 1st teams
- UFA (DA/ECNL) - 2nd boys and girls team
All Other Clubs My DOC said, some, or all, of the remaining small-to-medium clubs in Georgia have put together a mob to go after the Big Boys with bylaw changes in Georgia Soccer. My DOC also said, all of the other clubs, plan to not attend any of the Big Boys' tournaments.
Good bullets, but more of a theory than a true move by some. Meaning UFA, for example, has to be accepted into ECNL, which some reliable/knowledgeable folks on this forum believe it will not happen. And, SSA may stay in RPL, which doesn't mean that the Champions League, or whatever is first team for U15+. And, you have to break out the ages for NTH boys, like you did for SSA (they only have DA up to a certain age).
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Post by infoguy on Mar 19, 2018 15:56:35 GMT -5
Sure, I’m referring to the U17s. Watched them play, and as I said, talented. However, the CBs for example, were picked for their size, no doubt. I’m sure they’re nice boys from great families. Omg - yes, I would live my kid to play DA for AtlUtd. This forum had had many threads on how we can compete with th rest of the world - I would say just look at the primary characteristics of other countries’ players ... SPAIN, for example. It’s not about size. Can you have both size and skill? Of course, but I’m just making a judgment based on what I saw - sorry if I came off harsh, etc.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 19, 2018 12:58:22 GMT -5
To me, with the exception of a couple to a few players, AU is exactly what's wrong with American soccer. Their CBs, for instance, are gigantic and extremely physical. Yes, they're very good. But not the best, and that's the problem. America is always about size... stupid.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 16, 2018 6:11:43 GMT -5
I will have to agree with Soccermom that SRPL was not run well. The communication with me as TM one year, and with the another TM during the subsequent year was very poor. If factors other than the quality of the administration came into play, then the administrators did themselves a disservice by basically not communicating with the teams. We would go months sometimes without responses about games. Meanwhile, we got all our games in with NPL without a hitch. These leagues deal with the same challenges, etc.
Last, I will agree however that recruiting is up to the players. Club teams with coaches that proactively contact college coaches are blessed.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 14, 2018 7:33:16 GMT -5
I still haven't found where atlsoccer copied all that from... I followed the link, but it doesn't lay out the "new RPL". The Champions league, or the big-5 or 6 thing, will supposedly be run by U.S. Club Soccer. If that's correct, then the new RPL, run by USYS, is definitely different.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 13, 2018 14:11:09 GMT -5
US Youth Soccer is restructuring its National League/Regional Leagues program for the 2018-19 soccer season, moving from its current 4-regional leagues structure to a more manageable, travel centered (where possible), regional leagues system. The number of Regional Leagues expected in the program is currently being developed with an expected number of 12 to 18 Regional Leagues with continued integration with the National League. The specific Regional Leagues are expected to be announced in early March. US Youth Soccer staff are expected to manage the majority of the Regionals Leagues being developed. The National League will continue in its current format of competition. More information on the 2018-19 National League can be found here: www.usyouthsoccer.org/us_youth_soccer_national_league_announces_expansion_for_2018-19_season/?CategoryId=14499&Year=2017&pg=2Genders, Age Groups, and Eligibility of Teams Each of the Regional Leagues across the country expect to offer 13U through 19U age groups of competition for boys and girls (the 12U age group will be offered in those areas that currently offer this age group). In the future, each of the Regional Leagues expect to offer younger age groups. These will be determined by local market conditions. Regional Leagues and National League competitions are open to US Youth Soccer member teams with qualification into such competitions based on success in US Youth Soccer competitions (i.e. state, regional or national sanctioned leagues and National Championship Series competitions within US Youth Soccer). For the 2018-19 season, the Regional League system will also provide a pathway for teams currently (in 2017-18) playing in non-US Youth sanctioned competitions to be considered for slots into our 2018-19 program (For example teams playing in the 14U USSDA may be integrated into our programming at 15U in 2018-19). As a rule, teams that play in US Youth Soccer Regional Leagues are required to play in the state level of the National Championship Series. Tiers within Regional Leagues
Each of the Regional Leagues will strive to offer multiple tiers of competition as the local marketplace demands. For example, in a 3-tier structure, the top tier will be called “Premier I”, the second tier below will be named “Premier II” and a third tier “First Division.” In a 2-tier structure, the top tier will be called “Premier I”, and the second tier “First Division.” We anticipate promotion and relegation from season to season between the tiers and an annual qualification of teams from other competitions (primarily US Youth Soccer) into slots as well. Existing Non-Regional Leagues
As part of its restructuring of the Regional Leagues, US Youth Soccer is seeking to collaborate with existing competitive leagues that cross state association borders so that there is a seamless transition of teams qualifying for our competition from season to season. US Youth Soccer is also in discussions with such leagues to directly manage a limited number of Regional Leagues on US Youth Soccer’s behalf. National Championships Series and National League
Similar to what occurs now (with teams from the 4-Regional Leagues advancing to Regionals or qualifying for National League) the relaunched Regional Leagues program in 2018-19 will continue to advance champions from various gender age groups into a playoff for advancement into the respective Regionals (as part of the National Championships Series) or direct advancement to the respective Regionals in early June/July 2019. Based on historical participation in the NL, Regional League champions will also either advance to a playoff for a National League slot or direct placement into the National League for the 2019-20 soccer season. US Youth Soccer Leagues Showcases
In addition to Regional League play, as an added value to participation in US Youth Soccer Regional Leagues, teams/clubs participating will be invited to participate in a series of US Youth Soccer Showcase events that are to be scheduled in 2018-19 and beyond (similar to the Girls National League/Showcase event that took place at the IMG Academy on January 13-15, 2018 combining NL matches with showcase matches featuring Regional League teams). I don’t see this info on the site?
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Post by infoguy on Mar 13, 2018 13:52:08 GMT -5
Boy this sure sounds like what we already have now (RPL). Even the name of the tiers - but with more regions which should reduce travel.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 12, 2018 15:10:52 GMT -5
So is this the new hierarchy in Georgia Soccer: DA -- Atlanta United, Concorde Fire, UFA plus other clubs at the U12-U14 Levels ECNL (Current members are AFU, Concorde, GSA, NASA-TopHat) / National Premier League (current members are AFC Lightning, SSA, UFA) RPL/National League -- Various clubs but current teams also play in National Premier League as well. 6 club champions league -- From what I can tell, this league will consist of former RPL and Classic 1 teams from Atlanta Fire, Concorde, GSA, NASA-TopHat, SSA and UFA and I assume it will be two league, one for boys and one for boys. Classic 1 -- Whoever is left from the four leagues above it and I would guess now consisting mostly of smaller clubs and weak teams from larger clubs. Isn’t this just ridiculous :-) I still don't know why there would still be an RPL league?!
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Post by infoguy on Mar 9, 2018 14:59:54 GMT -5
There was no "subtraction" chart, so at least we know that CF still has the 18/19s.
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Post by infoguy on Mar 8, 2018 8:40:23 GMT -5
I do hope DA evaluates which club would receive older ages, based on the criteria described by soccerdaddy. Coaching can change from year to year, and it seems all the top shelf coaches at UFA are migrating, or will migrate to AU. All due respect to the remaining or likely to remain coaches at UFA.
SSA has been strategic, like UFA, in terms of staying clear of ECNL and dedicating the club's efforts towards DA. Not saying DA is better than ECNL. Just that a club should pick one or the other.
The complication is that dang ole CF seems to do both well.
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SSA
Mar 7, 2018 15:08:46 GMT -5
Post by infoguy on Mar 7, 2018 15:08:46 GMT -5
Should have just added Atlanta United, and left it there.
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SSA
Mar 7, 2018 13:22:29 GMT -5
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Post by infoguy on Mar 7, 2018 13:22:29 GMT -5
Maybe GA United was the beginning of the end for boys. Meaning, USYS had the RPL and National League track. Wasn't GA ODP supposed to be the super team anyways? And things were clear then, in terms of the best teams and earning your way. Now, it's as clear as mud.
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SSA
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Post by infoguy on Mar 7, 2018 12:31:08 GMT -5
Does anyone have a sense of SSA's plan, given all this DA and ECNL stuff? Right now, SSA has DA up to U14 and NPL. No ECNL. Thanks,
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DA
Mar 7, 2018 11:16:50 GMT -5
Post by infoguy on Mar 7, 2018 11:16:50 GMT -5
Does anyone have knowledge about SSA's plan? DA boys only up to U14, no ECNL.
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DA
Mar 7, 2018 11:11:33 GMT -5
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Post by infoguy on Mar 7, 2018 11:11:33 GMT -5
I don't get the girls DA. US Women won the World Cup. USWNT were able to put together the best team in the world, without a need for another league.
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DA
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Post by infoguy on Mar 6, 2018 15:31:09 GMT -5
Both DA and ECNL will take as many teams as they possibly can so that they can make more $. Like many of you, I have heard that DA nor ECNL will put up with clubs that have both leagues, since both of them want to be considered the best league. But I don't think they care enough about that, to the extent they would have less teams paying money.
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Post by infoguy on Feb 26, 2018 14:03:49 GMT -5
Seems that way, unless SSA gets DA at the older ages. DA will take note in favor of SSA based on the fact that SSA doesn't have or applied for ECNL. I understand that DA will no longer put up with clubs having both... UFA also doesn't have ECNL.
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Post by infoguy on Feb 22, 2018 12:42:02 GMT -5
I heard only general news that there will be a big shakeup in GA Soccer, and that RPL is done. For my boy's age, about 80% of teams in both RPL divisions are GA and FL anyways! So what's the point, especially given that RPL is not administered well? I heard that there will be a big Atlanta league and going to really good showcases - I didn't hear anything about that resulting in smaller clubs joining RPL.
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