Post by soccerlegacy on Sept 15, 2017 14:18:25 GMT -5
Some sensitive souls on here I take it... How dare anyone not think Tophat is the end all, be all... LOL I was just playing ... responding back with recognition that a program (meaning OVERALL program) that sweeps a tourney like the State cup is a top quality one in it's own right. We all know Tophat is top quality as well with its history and reputation... just know that reputation from "outsiders perceptions" also has attributes perceived as arrogance and entitlement.
Post by soccerlegacy on Aug 30, 2017 12:07:55 GMT -5
1) Do the AGC's hate the age mandate change as much as the majority of parents do?
2) Are you or other AGC's ticked off that no body from U.S. Soccer is willing to listen to any of the concerns or suggestions from AGC's or parents have when it comes to figuring out what is best for the majority of participants and the growth of the sport?
3) yes you would have difficulty. It is mainly an insurance issue, unless you go to tournaments, only. For information about becoming an affiliate of Georgia Soccer, per their website you should talk with
Director- Membership Kim Bowen firstname.lastname@example.org Ext. 107
Hope this helps.
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The "tournaments only" could be a good option... Rural teams or teams that don't have a lot of populations around them often do this in place of a regular season. For instance, I have a buddy that has son playing in Destin, Fl. ... It's a big enough city to have a team but not many other cities or locations nearby that make it feasible for a regular league. Instead, they play only tournaments (which there are plenty of) so their team club fees are minimal and most of the cost goes to tourney entry fees and such. I would also assume its a lot less headache having to find equally matched teams, scheduling out a season, getting referees assigned, etc.
This is absolutely needed in the younger ages...at this age, they need to learn the ability to play out of the back, who cares if they get picked off, the need to learn how to work around that. The build out line will help the players adapt faster vs kids surround the box picking off goal kicks. Punting should not be happening either....teams that punt all the time only care about winning, not developing players.
It's the zero tolerance for punting that I have exception to.... The coaches should teach the kids to play out of the back and verbalize it and praise it when it is done, but sometimes the best option is over the heads of a team that is high pressuring. Once a team sees that they can be bypassed if they are sitting too high up , they will sit back and playing out of the back can continue. On the other hand, forcing a kid to pass out of the back to a player that is tightly covered, just makes no sense and confuses the goalie.
Also, just fyi to someone that asked earlier, I did not see any build outlines in the tournament over the past weekend for a U9 game, but and no calls made for punting, although our team does it correctly and plays out of the back anyway.
I watch as many BVB matches as I can because of him. Is it my imagination or is Pulisic's first touch and ball control much better when he is playing for club than for USMNT?
That's why it's a team game. He does better when he has other players that are just as tactical and technical as him to feed it back and forth. The USMNT just doesn't have that. He's a great player but one man can't do it all alone.
Grade B from my perspective and do agree that some things could of been done at the older age groups. The world is on birth year, OK let's do this. Unfortunately, those that dominated before no longer do in the age groups. My son is July 04 and went from youngest to right in the middle and has retained first team status even before the switch. I understand the beef for the high school ages being broken up when most of them have been together for several years together and will cause some to quit the sport at a competitive level because now they may not be able to be dominant like they used to or they don't have their buddies. I get it, the dominant players with the later birth months go from oldest to youngest in 1 year. Yes, that would bring anyone down to realize that you no longer dominate your age. 2 years from now we won't have this conversation.
Just so you know, I have 3 girls in soccer, and my "beef" with it has nothing to do with them going from oldest to youngest. That isn't even an argument, all you're doing is switching who the ones are that are bizatching about their kids not having an advantage due to age.
My oldest daughter was caught in the 8th/9th grade disaster of a spring season due to being on the 8th grade side. We wound up playing 4 total games this spring, none of which were competitive. On top of that, she also had to jump from U13 to U15, losing a full year of developmental soccer (over her soccer career). Vote: Thumbs down
My middle child was already playing "up" on an elite team so going from playing girls a 1 1/2 years older to her actually being within her birth year was an advantage, but to her (and us parents) she lost some of her friends and teammates that where in her grade. She would much rather have stayed with her school mates and friends she had been playing along side for 3 years. Vote: Thumbs down
Finally, my youngest is just joining U9 Academy this year, and instead of getting to be with her classmates or even hoping to coax/persuade some of them to come play soccer with her, she will unfortunately have a divided team with kids she won't share as much in common with. Vote: Thumbs down
Ultimately, if US Soccer would have listened to a majority of coaches (Club, College, or H.S.), or parents, or children, this would never have happened. Instead, they made a quick, but hugely impactful change to youth soccer and then barricaded the door, put their hands over their ears and started chanting "la,la,la,la,la,... parents are dumb, la,la,la,la,la,... parents shouldn't have a say, la,la,la,la,la,... clubs don't matter, la,la,la,la,la,... what matters for youth soccer is the less than 1% that play international, la,la,la,la,la,..."
Every time this thread gets a new post I read the title as "A year in --- the age group mistake". So I guess that tells you how I feel.
If they had grandfathered in existing select players (not doing so created serious chaos for many smaller clubs), the whole thing would be a lesser problem. But it still has negative impact in 3 main areas:
young children (just starting out) don't get to play with their classmates, reducing the "community" feeling that draws and holds many players to youth sports
it eliminates the "double hump" we used to have of having two cutoff dates (one for academy+select and such, the other for DA+ODP) meaning that there was a place for more kids to be the oldest and excel (which is, as we know, the #1 way to excel in youth soccer)
the whole 8th/12th grade problem of making it so that late birthday kids may not have a team to play on in those grades
Overall, almost zero benefit for much cost. End grade: D-
You are being to generous with the D-.
This was, is, and will be an utter "fail" for youth soccer. Your first point is the most unforgivable in my eyes... followed very closely by the third one.
What's just as maddening to me is that they (US Soccer) wouldn't even listen to the resounding, almost deafening cries from the majority of it's members. It has been with great disgust that we have eat their **** sandwich with a smile and accept that they don't care in the least about the 99% of kids that just want to play soccer with friends (in their same grade) and without having to possibly miss seasons like they do in the 8th/12th grades.
Grade: F - (wish there was something lower than that)
Didn't the u17 UFA Milton team all come over from NASA this year? Wanted to stay together and NASA wouldn't let them because of the age mandate? Definitely impressive to win that many championships, even if you don't count that one.
For this particular age group the final was UFA Milton vs UFA Forsyth... So UFA representing both teams in the final is impressive as well.
Also impressive is the fact that the Milton team wanted to stay together (after the age mandate) so that means some of the their team is playing up and they still won the cup.
Shouldn't parents be allowed to comparison shop all year long?
Shouldn't kids be able to talk with other coaches without seeing the coach look around to see if anyone is looking and evesdropping?
Not to mention this moronic rule that every club has to hold tryouts on the same 3 days! An of course, all of the clubs say in some form " you are expected attend all 3 days" ... with whatever club you registered for.
I think the DA will be at Fowler or pinckneyville. Again not sure. What birth year? You may want to see who has ECNL
I'm not really looking for DA... too many restrictions, just wanted to know if anyone had insight as to whether they think Milton will be large enough to support top level Academy soccer (U9-U12), not DA. ... and whether or not they will have a large amount of kids that were having to go to Forysth that will now take advantage of the Milton proximity.
Today is the official day for reaching out to other clubs and initiating contact. Anyone making moves? Where to and if possible why? Pros n Con?
Thanks for the thread.... I actually do want to see if anyone has any knowledge of UFA - Milton.
I know UFA-Milton is a relatively new location to the UFA, but I was curious if any of you have any insight into where you see it heading? Are there any current UFA-Forsyth players or parents considering the move to this newer branch? I've heard that UFA-Forsyth is a little over crowded as it is, and that there were quite a few players from the Milton area playing there, so this could make some since to go where it is less crowded and more convenient, no?
Although we are not one of those that live in Milton it would be the closest UFA location to us and we are considering making the move. My concern is that it won't be built up to have a deep enough talent pool for Academy players. As to why we a considering the move, we are from a smaller club and the level of play (once you hit 11 v11 teams) will start to differentiate greatly for the top of the roster to the bottom. I could be wrong, but I'm worried that may stunt our daughters growth because you can only practice/play as a good as the weaker players on the team... but if UFA-Milton is not going to grow in time for a move over there, then is it really worth it?
I am fully in support of multi-sport athletes. Kids specialize way too early these days. I hate it. Kids ought to play as several different sports because the skills that are taught in one sport translate to other sports and make for better athletes. Basketball is the perfect compliment to soccer.
Agreed! It is sad that in today's world, kids don't get the experience of other sports, gaining other friendships, etc. And it truly does help to translate into the other sports. Another thing that has changed since I played multiple sports growing up, is the year long commitment that you have to make with soccer clubs. I used to be able to play football in the fall and sign up for club soccer in the spring (at the select level, even) without having to commit to a full years worth of money. Most of my soccer buddies did play year 'round, but if you were good enough to make it on the team, you could do what I did and just play in the spring season.
Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 17, 2017 9:44:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies, and keep them coming... I would like to get as many thoughtful replies as I can to think this through.
I'd also like to add to the equation that the smaller club my daughter is with could possibly be losing one of her teammates, in fact, the best one on her team (and possibly one of the best in her entire age group). This would make the team regress quite a bit. The problem with the diluted talent is that for the better players on her team, I'm worried their play will suffer. For instance, they will string passes together beautifully until it reaches those lesser players and the ball is turned over. They can not sustain possession for extedned periods of time and I'm worried that by not being able to experience how to move the ball around for a sustained period, that it will ultimately hurt as she moves on into older age brackets.
Again the coaching is top notch, it's the execution with some of her teammates that suffers and I'm worried that will hinder her going forward? Is that a logical fear I should have?
Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 14, 2017 11:27:13 GMT -5
Having followed this board for the past couple of years, I have been impressed by the extensive knowledge with many of the posters here. With that said, I would like to ask your opinions on the topic of possibly changing clubs.
Here is the situation.... My daughter, (who is U11 academy) plays for a smaller club that has a pretty decent team. They usually handle other clubs here size with ease, but struggle with the top flight clubs. She is a quality player that matches up well with most of these top clubs, it just the depth of their rosters that makes her team struggle.
I like the club we are at (especially it proximity to our house) but I'm worried that as she gets to U13 and the 11 v 11 rosters, the team will become even more diluted with talent (top to bottom) and I want her to have formative competition when she gets to that level. I'm thinking long term of moving to another club so that the talent pool is deeper.
My question is, when should that move occur? U12? U13? She gets very good coaching right now and I'm happy with that, but if we were to make a move will it hurt her chances of making the top team at another club if she is not already in their system come U13 tryouts? Or could that benefit her by being some one new showing up at the the U13 tryouts?
Any advice or experience with this situation would help.
Post by soccerlegacy on Feb 24, 2017 14:04:16 GMT -5
Location, Location, Location. I'm with you on not making the venture to Stonecrest even though I would love to support women's soccer with NWSL. Go where the fans/youth players are, kind of like what the Atlanta Braves are doing with the new baseball field. The Atlanta Beat got it right with location until the dang league folded.
Atlanta is trying to get a NWSL franchise by 2018/2019, it's my understanding that it's probably going to happen. Additionally it looks like they are trying to attract a NASL franchise as well, from what I heard Boris is involved. Not a fan of that idea given the Silverbacks past history with mismanagement and high coaching turnover. As a season ticket holder to AUFC I probably would not venture to Stonecrest to watch a NWSL team play even as much as I support women's soccer.
Post by soccerlegacy on Feb 15, 2017 14:32:33 GMT -5
I can see where this is topic can be very polarizing, but interesting topic. Many soccer "purists" seem to think coaching should only be done during the week and they should let the kids play and think for themselves during the games. They think that those that don't feel this way just don't understand the complexity of soccer and how players must be able to learn to assess the situations and adapt on their own.
However, my opinion is that you can and should coach during the game. It just needs to be done in the correct manner. No, I don't believe in "joystick" coaching where they are telling players where to go and what to do, but if you see something that is reinforcing what you worked on in practice and a player could benefit from it in the moment or immediately following it... I have no problem with the coach letting that player know. For instance, "play the way your facing" or " look for the splits" or "get wide", these are general suggestions and simple things that can help a team regain focus DURING a game and are not going to make them robots at the same time.
A wise coach I know (who has coached at the highest levels and for over 30 years) once told me in a class (I was taking of his), was always try to phrase your coaching by asking the player questions if you can? Make them think about what the correct answer is and have them figure it out. This way, they are not being programmed to do a certain thing but rather adapt as they see things form there perspective and over time, they will begin to think for themselves on the field with the proper decisions. For example, in a game if you see a player make a mistake, aske them "What was the better play there?" or Where should you be?"...
Most of what I'm speaking to IS for the younger players but there is value in coaching even with the older players during the game.
Post by soccerlegacy on Oct 25, 2016 15:38:37 GMT -5
Because of the age mandate change the U15's are mixed with 8th and 9th graders. For the 9th graders they will have the chance to play high school soccer. My daughter is in the 8th grade and I've heard "talk" that they would allow 8th graders to play on the J.V. team (but having watched J.V. girls soccer, I'm less than impressed). I've also heard that there was again "talk" of having a club spring season that wouldn't actually count for or against the clubs, just so they could get some touches on the ball.
Since, with the stupidity of the age mandate change, this will now be an ongoing issue every year when your child is on a U15 team, I wanted to know if anyone has heard anything or may have some insight for what is expected. If you have children under U15, this will eventually affect you as well.
The fall season is already over the half way mark and I have yet to hear a solution. My daughter plays on a mid-to-small sized club so its not like we have enough players to form a team if there was a spring season, but was curious to see what others are doing or what we could possibly do.
Post by soccerlegacy on Sept 2, 2016 10:09:02 GMT -5
I'm relatively new to the soccer forums. I started following along (without posting) back when the age mandates had been announced... just wanting to get a feel for "the word on the street" as to how it would play out. I found this site and what I'm guessing is the "old" site. The "old" site seemed more active so i went there a little more often, but then in the past few months it turned into a cesspool of rantings and ravings with nearly no soccer talk to speak of...
Being that I am new to the soccer forums in general, I was just curious to know what happened? Is there a vendetta against the creator of the site? What would cause a person(s) to be that OC about continually posting garbage daily for that long a period? Is there anyone here with some insight that set that off? Just curious.
Anyway, hopefully this site will reap the rewards of more posters since the other has clearly lost its way. Thanks for creating a place where there is civil discussion about interesting topics. I'm just getting into this as my oldest daughter is only in her second year of Athena and my next youngest in Academy still. I hope to continue learning from some of the more experienced posters here.
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