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Post by Strikeorkeep on May 25, 2022 11:41:09 GMT -5
I know this has been a topic over and over again but i feel like recruiting has changed the past few years with the extra eligibilityyear due to Covid as well as transfer portal.
Anyone guided their kid through these waters recently and have any advice they'd share?
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Apr 29, 2022 5:57:28 GMT -5
Cambridge 3-1 over River Ridge 6A Final Cambridge vs. Lassiter Final will be a good game. Cambridge has a deadly striker, when she turns to goal and gets rolling, unstoppable. Weakness is two freshmen in the back line. Didn't see Lassiter this year. Cambridge/RR should have been a blow out last night. RR keeper and senior CB kept them in it. But dare I say #7 for Cambridge is as dangerous as their striker? If Lassiter doubles that girl up top, #7 will have a field day. She’s that good.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Apr 25, 2022 19:56:18 GMT -5
Anyone have a score for the other girls 6A games? River Ridge won 4-2 JC and Lassiter in second OT currently Lassiter won in PKs against JC So River Ridge vs Cambridge and Chattahoochee vs Lassiter
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Apr 25, 2022 19:28:43 GMT -5
Anyone have a score for the other girls 6A games? River Ridge won 4-2 JC and Lassiter in second OT currently
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Apr 15, 2022 11:54:19 GMT -5
Got to love this time of year... Someone creates a new account and almost all post begin to bash another club. I love that TH lives rent free in your head. Just because you say something 3 times on the forum doesnt make it true... TH teams struggline? When, where, how? Please state what club you favor so we can analyse the results... TH 06 Gold have not lost players and are not struggling. Some girls left the NAVY team and are major contributors on ECNL teams... That actually points to the depth and development at the club and I'm happy they found great homes. Please check your facts bro. I will state it again for the people in the back and the current parents know this. They have seen the top colleges at GA showcases since the blackout period has been lifted... You will be seen and featured at TH. LOL teams stuggling... Yes you can point to the ECNL being a more established league... No one is going to debate that... Once again... You gotta love this time of year... Hahahaha, nice post. Actually, this is not a new account. I’ve had it for a couple of years now; I just rarely post (nice try but you gotta get your facts straight next time). Also, it’s not that Tophat’s in my head—I’m simply calling BS at the antiquated idea that many Tophat parents have—and have the gall to endlessly try to claim on this forum—that (i) Tophat is somehow THE club in Atlanta a la its “Tophat 23 Gold” days and (ii) GAL is a league on par with ECNL. I’ll admit there was a time when the former may have been the case, but that time has long since passed (and the latter has yet to come to be, if it ever does). The steady and unrelenting exodus of Tophat’s top talent to rival clubs, the consequential hits its top teams have taken as a result and the club’s relegation to GAL appear to confirm this (and I say “relegation“ because if the powers-that-be over there were completely happy about being in GAL, they wouldn’t keep trying to get back into ECNL year after year as has been mentioned many times by others on this forum). As for my thoughts on this issue, it’s not like I’m coming out of left field on this one, as I’m using YOUR POST AS A TOPHAT PARENT from a few weeks ago as the basis for my argument. “Yes the TH 04 and 07 teams took hits as people searched for this exposure BEFORE GA was fully functional.” Those are your words, correct? That was your response to another poster’s argument that “the 08 gold team is by far the strongest team for their age of all the TH gold teams. They were the only TH team to make the finals of Champions League last week. The 09 gold has struggled all year. If TH doesn’t keep the 08 team together, can’t be looking good for TH In the future and trying to sell GA league as an equal to ECNL without stellar teams to back it up..” Have no clue who that other poster is but clearly I’m not alone in my position, as others have echoed similar opinions in the past re: the waning relevance of Tophat as a soccer club in metro Atlanta. Unlike my question re: how the 04-06 Tophat Gold teams would fare against its top ECNL counterparts at Concorde, GDA and UFA that went unanswered, I will actually address your questions. 1. “TH 06 Gold have not lost players and are not struggling.” Sorry, but as the Gen Zers like to say, I’m gonna have to call cap on that. Over the course of the last 2 seasons, Tophat 06 Gold has lost its starting center forward, arguably its best on-ball defender and it’s ONLY GK all at the same time to 2 separate teams at 2 different clubs (not counting the GK there, as she stayed with Tophat and simply moved to 05 Gold). Throw in losing its starting center mid as well last year, and that makes 4 players and 3/4 of that team’s starting spine that have moved on over the last 2 seasons, not to mention an additional 3 other players as well. Doesn’t sound to me like 06 Gold hasn’t lost any players. 2. TH teams struggline? When, where, how? Again, I direct you to your own words above re: 04 Gold and 07 Gold, but if you require another example, I give you Tophat 05 Gold. Now, you know from my posts that I feel strongly that the GAL SE conference is the weakest in all of GAL and ECNL combined. So this squad—tops in the GAL 05 SE conference—goes to a national showcase last month to compete. Now, I will be the first to admit that ANY team can have a bad game or 2, so when 05 Gold went 0-2 in its first 2 matches, that wasn’t a big deal, as eventually, it did find a way to bring home the W in game 3. What IS unbelievable, however, is that because of that 1-2 record, once the schedules were reworked based on all teams’ performances, that squad was essentially banished to the LOSERS’ bracket so that it could battle against a fellow 1-2 team in its fourth and final match. Can you guess where I’m going with this? You got it—a THIRD loss (this time in the losers’ bracket) and a 1-3 record overall. Did I forget to mention that the starting center mid, starting holding mid and only GK at the time left for greener pastures over a 2 year period as well, significantly contributing to the steady decline in this team’s performance outside of GAL SE over the last 3 seasons? I’m sorry, but if that ain’t the very definition of “struggling,” then I dont know what is… We have a ton of friends on that 06 team (my kids younger). They lost a few here and there but why are they having better results this year than in the past few? Scoring more goals and giving up less. With all the changes you noted and the assumption it only weakend that team, I would have guessed their record and stats would have dipped. League aside, I think some success is measured by a) # of coaches at your games/practices and b) how many of your kids move on to next level. Yea, going to nationals and having a great record is certainly a good measure but whats the endgame goal for most? Moving on to the next level? National team participation? TH is still managing to do this without the ECNL logo on their sleeve.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Sept 20, 2021 15:03:51 GMT -5
You follow the same teams and age groups that we do. Some additional food for thought from GAL...TH Gold has not played IMG yet and they will likely prove a huge challenge. They also have not played SSA. The SSA O6 team looks good with the exception of a big loss to IMG, who truly is a different breed of team in the league. Right now TH Gold has 12 points, IMG has 9 points and SSA has 8 points so all 3 of those teams look to be very competitive in the 06 age group. Both SSA and TH Gold have some really good local players. However, TH Gold is steamrolling ahead in 07 age group. SSA will need to continue to rebuild in that age group. The teams that are now CF Premier that were SSA last year appear to be really struggling to find their identity still from the tournament games we've seen but not sure on regular season games. Dont count out Fl United (Weston) at the 2006 age group. Played both TH teams tough last year and this past weekend. And GSA ECNL 06 added some serious talent in the offseason (RSC top players) but have lots on injuries currently. I'd expect them to challenge as the season progresses.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Aug 16, 2021 12:31:07 GMT -5
My kids have friends throughout the ages/teams so these are scores I was told.
TH Navy 09 2-3 Charlotte SA ECNL TH Gold 06 2-1 Alabama FC ECNL TH Gold 06 3-1 Charlotte SA ECNL TH Navy 06 1-2 NC Fusion ECNL UFA 06 4-2 Alabama FC 05 ECNL UFA 06 2-2 Charlotte SA ECNL
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Post by Strikeorkeep on May 10, 2021 20:33:57 GMT -5
Is the previous 06G one going to CF or NTH or back to AFU? We’ve been told by a few families on the 06 team that the girls playing up will be coming back with age group. Not sure if it’s actually true or not.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Apr 27, 2021 6:10:10 GMT -5
The coaches in the region vote for them, so I assume they go off what they see when they play. For example, girls 7-AAAAAA they voted for the River Ridge keeper as 1st and Johns Creek as 2nd. JC keeper gave up 3 goals in region, RR gave up 14 but still felt she was the best in regionI(I do not know if they played a 2nd keeper in any of the games). But I'm guessing the JC keeper didn't get nearly as much action in her games than the RR keeper did so the coaches vote accordingly. I’m friends with some coaches in other regions and they say they look at more than just goals given up. Saves and perceived contribution to success plays a factor to them. Eyeball test (right/wrong) plays a factor Im sure too like you stated. As a parent of a former GK, sometimes you don’t want to be on a team that’s winning 10-0 most games.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Apr 26, 2021 14:46:31 GMT -5
GHSA has to fix the way the playoff are run. The games above should not be happening in the second round. There should be a way for seedings but I do understand the reason why. For instance Lassiter in the 6A bracket has the group of death. They open up against 10 ranked Chattahoochee. Now plays the 2nd Ranked team from Buford. If they win then they get to play the winner of Glynn Academy/North Atlanta (both teams ranked in the top 10) Then if they get through that then more then likely the 3rd ranked Cambridge Bears. If they miraculously get through that gauntlet the the #1 ranked JC waits for them. So for them to possibly win a State Championship they would have to beat 5 top 10 ranked teams. How fair is that. I don't know about you but if they were to run through this they should be in the discussion as top team in Georgia. AND YES I AM A LASSITER HOMER For the record I still don't think they would be in front of Westminster/Lambert/West Forsyth but damn they deserve some respect. Hopefully they will have a chance to be in the discussion. Still a lot of games to go, some of the teams above might lose. That is why you play the game on the field not on paper. Good luck to everyone. So happy that DA is gone so the girls can play HS and we can see some better soccer. Schools that were never thought of are now beating people and going deeper into the season We have good family friends at River Ridge so imagine playing JC, Riverwood (beat Pope in playoffs), Chattahoochee, and Cambridge to even qualify for playoffs. I believe that RR team beat Pope and lost last second to Lassiter...and they didnt even make the playoffs so could be worse! And I am not a RR homer...ha!
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Apr 22, 2021 13:57:47 GMT -5
I didn't see anyone on staff with soccer experience. The only person that has soccer listed as a sport that they coach was a football and track athlete. Yea, not specific soccer training but agility/strength that translates to soccer. Many college players come back to train here in off season or summer. Not advertisment for them...just really like what they do for all athletes.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Apr 22, 2021 13:35:02 GMT -5
So my daughter finished up her freshman year playing in college. Skills and tactics were there, physically and strength-wise she struggled. (She’s a tall, skinny, fast wing) Her coach is challenging her to add good weight and get stronger in the off season. Any recommendations? Anyone used any of the sports performance gyms or any experience with strength training programs? Also from a pure soccer skills standpoint she’s looking for a trainer for the summer along with possibly 2-3 other college players. If anyone has had good experiences would love to get some names. (We are in the Northern Cobb area but she doesn’t mind a little windshield time for the right training) Lots of soccer players workout here with Joe and staff: furyperformanceacademy.com/
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Apr 2, 2021 11:41:15 GMT -5
This was one of the rumored reasons Roy Williams retired from UNC yesterday....its the wild wild west now and transfers can lead to quicker winning than incoming freshmen.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Mar 31, 2021 14:07:21 GMT -5
Interesting..thanks for that as we have friends at both River Ridge and Chattahoochee. Was told Chattahoochee showed 1-2 in conference on Max Preps but that must be wrong then. Wonder why you make teams go to Pks if it doesnt count eventually as a win/loss? Maxpreps refuses to take my updates, so yeah it's woefully out of date. Was told the Goal Differential for the PK games was voted on(region rules) before the season to be 0 and not 1. /shrug Sadly it sounds like it was one of River Ridge's girls better seasons and they wont make the playoffs. Crazy!
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Mar 31, 2021 11:05:06 GMT -5
Is this the region with Cambridge and Johns Creek? If so, who is #3 and #4 behind those 2 teams? Chattahoochee is 3 and Riverwood is 4. It came down to the first tiebreaker after head to head. Which is goal diffrence between 3 teams. Hooch +1 (won 1 0 riverwood and then the ot loss to river ridge is counted as 0 because it is number after 2nd ot not after pks) riverwood was 0 (1 0 loss to hooch and 2 1 win at river ridge) and river ridge was -1 (tie vs hooch see above and -1 versus riverwood). Interesting..thanks for that as we have friends at both River Ridge and Chattahoochee. Was told Chattahoochee showed 1-2 in conference on Max Preps but that must be wrong then. Wonder why you make teams go to Pks if it doesnt count eventually as a win/loss?
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Mar 31, 2021 9:32:40 GMT -5
We just had this in our region. For a 3 way tie it is head to head for those three teams(If one team beat both others), then goal differential in the head to head for teams that are tied and then goal differential overall then goals allowed in region games. If there's a tie after that for 2 teams head to head results will be used to determine placement. However this could be a region thing, this was for region 7 in 6A. Tie Breaker: 1. Record against all teams in the Region. 2. Winning team in head-to-head competition between schools that are tied. 3. Goal differential in head-to-head competition between schools that are tied (maximum of three (3) goals per game). 4. Goal differential in all Region games (maximum of three (3) goals per game 5. Goals allowed in head-to-head competition between schools that are tied. 6. Goals allowed in all Region games. *NOTE: When figuring “goals allowed” or “goal differential” in matches decided by kicks from the mark, the tie score at the end of the second overtime period will be used for the tie-breaking procedure. 7. At any point in the process where ties can be broken so that only two teams remain tied, consideration of head-to-head competition will be invoked. If the tie is completely broken for all teams involved at any step in the process, the tie-breaker process is completed. Is this the region with Cambridge and Johns Creek? If so, who is #3 and #4 behind those 2 teams?
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Nov 25, 2020 12:22:52 GMT -5
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Aug 20, 2020 12:22:23 GMT -5
Only new addition to that 06 Navy team is a CB from UFA DA. Coach brings a few up from DPL team for depth occasionally I thought she went to GA gold, no? No, CB from UFA DA went to Navy and GK & Wing/Back from UFA DA went to Gold.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Aug 20, 2020 10:02:11 GMT -5
Ah, maybe they went to UFA ECNL? I know 2 of the girls went to CF Platinum ECNL, 2 went to AFU ECNL, there's another 2 I have no idea where they went (both played at NTH in the past). Yea, we have great friends on that team and almost all of them have stayed together since u13. They added 1 girl last year (AFU ECNL) and 1 girl this year (UFA DA) outside of the club. They did lose 1 girl to GSA ECNL this year and lost 3 girls last year to either TH DA or UFA DA.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Aug 20, 2020 9:33:51 GMT -5
How many true top sides are in this league -- teams on the level of a Tophat?
From the looks of it, Weston and IMG will be the main competition for the gold team (depending on whether Weston lost many players to Sunrise Prime). Other than that, they will probably have to travel West to get good games. ECNL's new scheduling platform doesn't have rosters, but for the 06 girls, it seems to me like NTH may have pulled some players from CF 06 ECNL Premier during "tryouts" (I don't recognize some of that team now) to their Navy team. So it looks like the addition of a 2nd team in the league helped them out a bit in some age groups. There's no way the Wake FC parents stay content with the travel situation. Especially with better high-level travel options closer to home. Only new addition to that 06 Navy team is a CB from UFA DA. Coach brings a few up from DPL team for depth occasionally
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Jun 17, 2020 14:59:58 GMT -5
They picked up 2 former TH players that left (UFA DA and Concorde Premiere) as well as added another from UFA DA. THey ended up losing 3 but only 2 went to outside club. One moved up to 2005 due to 2023 graduation. The 2023 grad was the '06s goalie the last couple of years? Yep, came in with her former CF North teammates a few years ago during Hunger Games tryouts . Greak kid, very talented.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Jun 17, 2020 14:34:49 GMT -5
I thought '06 only lost 3. I'll be definitely interested in seeing how the 07 perform. As a product of the NASA Tophat migration, I'm rooting for the '07s that remain because they are mostly out of Metro North. I believe the 06s lost 2 and picked up one former DA player from UFA and one came back from Concorde Premiere that left TH the year before They picked up 2 former TH players that left (UFA DA and Concorde Premiere) as well as added another from UFA DA. THey ended up losing 3 but only 2 went to outside club. One moved up to 2005 due to 2023 graduation.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Jun 5, 2020 8:51:51 GMT -5
Do you have numbers on how many "starters" left TH top teams at those age groups? I think the only one that has gotten considerable amounts of discussion on the forum are the 07s. 04s lost 5 starters, 05s lost 4 (5 if you count the one that left in December), 06s lost only 1 that I'm aware of. You know about the 07s. 2006 lost 3 (1 moved up to 2005, 2 to outside clubs) but regained an formr TH player plus a former UFA DA player.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on Jun 1, 2020 14:22:29 GMT -5
You are spot on! The TH girls banded together and even requested the removal of the current 07 CF Coach before they came over. That coach’s daughter even played on that team and she was cut as well. All but 3 girls remained. Is anyone aware of who the new 07 CF coach that those girls moved over to play for? If so, it could answer alot of speculation as to why... which stems back to a scrimmage that took place a couple years back (07 TH vs 07 Santos). Interested in this statement as I heard the new coach of that team is a former/current GK coach? Not sure if this is true.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on May 15, 2020 13:58:13 GMT -5
Was that just for new players ? Wonder if they are keeping teams in tact and using Zoom to place new players ? It looked like it was just for placing new players. I wondered if more clubs would pencil in their existing teams and use Zoom to "score" new players?
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Post by Strikeorkeep on May 15, 2020 13:47:04 GMT -5
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Post by Strikeorkeep on May 14, 2020 11:11:27 GMT -5
UFA ECNL girls posted 2008 and 2002/2003 Alan Woods 2007 and 2002/2003 composite Chris Hall 2006 Lizzy Schmidt 2005 and 2004 Iggy What are your thoughts about Coach Woods? Some of our friends have him for their 2005 DA team...they love him. He's demanding but fair they say. Really knows his stuff.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on May 8, 2020 15:19:34 GMT -5
Which team is the blue circled R logo on the dpleague.org home page? I believe that is Colorado Rush.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on May 5, 2020 13:46:18 GMT -5
I was told by a parent at TH they expected Kyle to stay with the 2007s but who knows if that is true? Ciedel coached the DPL 2007 so perhaps he gets a team too? They were told coaches would be done by last Friday. How are Kyle and Cediel as coaches? What do you mean “done by last Friday” - as in the coach list is supposed to be final? Thanks!! Yes, the coaches were supposed to be decided by last Friday from that they were told. I dont know if they've been released internally at TH? I have heard nothing but wonderful things about Cediel. Never one bad word. And I have heard good things about Kyle too.
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Post by Strikeorkeep on May 5, 2020 13:37:53 GMT -5
It would be helpful for parents and players if ALL the clubs posted the coaching assignments with credentials. From what I've seen - it's inconsistent across the board. I think for many parents, coaching is more important than the club itself. And prior to tryouts, it would be nice to know if the coaching style, and if their philosophy is a good fit. And as soccergirldad mentioned, having a coach with their child on a team might be a dealbreaker for many, based on the simple fact that every parent sees their kid as a superstar - regardless of whether or not it's true. Yes!! Hence I said we are looking at coaches, not clubs. The problem is the clubs aren’t announcing so you have to go on hearsay. I was told by a parent at TH they expected Kyle to stay with the 2007s but who knows if that is true? Ciedel coached the DPL 2007 so perhaps he gets a team too? They were told coaches would be done by last Friday.
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