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Post by ultimatedad on Feb 15, 2019 3:50:09 GMT -5
Same problems when he was a GSA, parents footed the bill for the "scholarship" players while their kids rode the bench, that was just the tip of the iceberg. This is a problem for US soccer as a whole. There should be a national susidy from US soccer for scholorship kids so rich players are not so upset when more athletic better skilled poorer players take their spots. Pay to play has created a safe space for lesser athletes which is the reason US soccer is in decline. |
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Post by ultimatedad on Feb 15, 2019 3:50:34 GMT -5
Subsidy.
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Post by soccerloafer on Feb 15, 2019 9:04:11 GMT -5
Same problems when he was a GSA, parents footed the bill for the "scholarship" players while their kids rode the bench, that was just the tip of the iceberg. This is a problem for US soccer as a whole. There should be a national susidy from US soccer for scholorship kids so rich players are not so upset when more athletic better skilled poorer players take their spots. Pay to play has created a safe space for lesser athletes which is the reason US soccer is in decline. And free healthcare and free college and free jobs and free cars and and and... Socialist much? Safe space? Oh my. |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Feb 15, 2019 9:24:10 GMT -5
This is a problem for US soccer as a whole. There should be a national susidy from US soccer for scholorship kids so rich players are not so upset when more athletic better skilled poorer players take their spots. Pay to play has created a safe space for lesser athletes which is the reason US soccer is in decline. And free healthcare and free college and free jobs and free cars and and and... Socialist much? Safe space? Oh my. Fox News is that way --------> Let's stick to soccer |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Feb 15, 2019 11:22:21 GMT -5
Same problems when he was a GSA, parents footed the bill for the "scholarship" players while their kids rode the bench, that was just the tip of the iceberg. This is a problem for US soccer as a whole. There should be a national susidy from US soccer for scholorship kids so rich players are not so upset when more athletic better skilled poorer players take their spots. Pay to play has created a safe space for lesser athletes which is the reason US soccer is in decline. |
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Feb 15, 2019 12:38:00 GMT -5
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Post by ultimatedad on Feb 15, 2019 12:38:00 GMT -5
That is a good start for DA. Does ECNL have a similiar program?
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Post by ultimatedad on Feb 15, 2019 12:48:00 GMT -5
This is a problem for US soccer as a whole. There should be a national susidy from US soccer for scholorship kids so rich players are not so upset when more athletic better skilled poorer players take their spots. Pay to play has created a safe space for lesser athletes which is the reason US soccer is in decline. And free healthcare and free college and free jobs and free cars and and and... Socialist much? Safe space? Oh my. As fewer kids can afford the club/travel fees let alone the time it takes to travel to far off clubs it will make soccer in the US less competitive. Fewer top athletes will decide to play soccer because there is a lower cost and higher reward for playing other sports. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 15, 2019 13:20:53 GMT -5
And free healthcare and free college and free jobs and free cars and and and... Socialist much? Safe space? Oh my. As fewer kids can afford the club/travel fees let alone the time it takes to travel to far off clubs it will make soccer in the US less competitive. Fewer top athletes will decide to play soccer because there is a lower cost and higher reward for playing other sports. Higher reward? Yes. Lower costs? Not so fast. Only non-club sports like American football can claim that. Even the best high school football teams can travel far to play high competition, but that is a minority. Basketball, baseball, volleyball, softball and LAX also cost a lot to play at the Elite level. Costs are high there as well. This is an all sport phenomenon, not just soccer. |
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Post by rifle on Feb 16, 2019 23:56:04 GMT -5
Rationalizing it as normal and therefore acceptable... doesn’t change the fact that it is a genuine problem.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Feb 17, 2019 6:40:23 GMT -5
With the goal of trying to create more elite players to funnel up to the Nat'l Team to create a truly competitive team to represent the US on the world stage, what do you all think would be a good solution, first steps or ultimate action to attain this?
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Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 17, 2019 8:02:00 GMT -5
Rationalizing it as normal and therefore acceptable... doesn’t change the fact that it is a genuine problem. I am not rationalizing it, nor do I think it is acceptable for the prices to keep going up. I was just pointing out that people aren't going to leave SOCCER for another sport, they will leave SPORTS at the elite level all together. We have people on our team that are struggling with the costs of travel. This is what the clubs made SCCL for. The problem is that not everyone can do SCCL right now. The clubs that have it are all in metro Atlanta. Some people still live too far from the locations that have it. |
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May 30, 2019 21:26:34 GMT -5
Post by papacoach on May 30, 2019 21:26:34 GMT -5
It seems KSA is still moving forward regardless of a few leaving and breaking TVs on team trips. I hope that player took responsibility and paid for the damages and learn his lesson on how to conduct himself away from home.
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Post by soccergator on May 30, 2019 21:52:40 GMT -5
Not this age group but heard stories today about costs and expenses for some teams being split by the 6-8 players that can pay and a story of single team manager getting stuck with a heavy expense for covering for tournament costs and travel expenses for the team with the expectation of being reimbursed.
I’ve always heard that the 01 team had a single benefactor taking care of not expenses for the team. Could be BS.
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Post by papacoach on May 31, 2019 6:21:24 GMT -5
I have heard the same rumors about KSA teams too...To few paying players absorbing the financial burdens of their teams’ full rosters due to a heavy influx of club sponsored players without the club supporting the scholarship funds themselves; At least that’s the rumor  |
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Post by soccerfan30 on May 31, 2019 7:14:08 GMT -5
I have heard the same rumors about KSA teams too...To few paying players absorbing the financial burdens of their teams’ full rosters due to a heavy influx of club sponsored players without the club supporting the scholarship funds themselves; At least that’s the rumor This was the norm when BK was at GSA |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 31, 2019 7:14:13 GMT -5
Right, but post age-mandate change (ages becoming inflexible), if you play an ineligible above-age player...you should be barred from even coaching in the state for a decade at least. Needs to be serious penalties for cheating. And people wonder why SCCL was formed. Between the KSA teams and the Dalton based clubs playing ineligible above-age players and those clubs looking the other way or actively allowing it and creating player passes with not proof of age there is not a level playing field in the GA Soccer system. It seems GA Soccer doesn't really care to really put a "death penalty" type punishment on a club or two to fix this issue either. Ultimately that is what it will take to fix this issue since it is obvious some coaches and clubs do not care about the rules especially since there really is nothing more than a slap on the wrist if they get caught. |
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May 31, 2019 7:59:39 GMT -5
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Post by mot on May 31, 2019 7:59:39 GMT -5
This team continues to be ridiculous. Between the Piedmont Conference and the National League this fall, they went 11-0-1 and outscored their opponents 46-10. Of course, their superstar forward leads the National League in goals scored again, averaging 2 per game (y'all know who I'm talking about). It seems he's since left the club to pursue pro opportunities, where I'm not sure. But he's not the only pro-caliber player on this team by any stretch. They have quite a few kids who are younger than 2001 as well, including some of their best players. I know people on this forum tend to have some controversial opinions on KSA, but IMO what this club is doing is incredible. They've put 6-7 kids into the pros in just the last 2-3 years. They sent three 03's to Germany to trial with a couple 2nd and 3rd division clubs last month. And their younger teams are just as dominant at nearly every age group. For a club in the backyard of an MLS academy to be producing players like this is crazy to me, what is keeping AU/Concorde/UFA from capitalizing on the player pool that KSA draws from (particularly AU since their program is free)? What is KSA doing differently that is resulting in this kind of output of professional-quality players? |
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Post by mot on May 31, 2019 8:02:22 GMT -5
The team that won 2-0 to a mid tier NL , tied a lower NL team 2-2 and beat Santos another lower level NL 6-3 that’s not exactly ridiculous or tearing it up
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May 31, 2019 8:19:23 GMT -5
Post by infoguy on May 31, 2019 8:19:23 GMT -5
Right, but post age-mandate change (ages becoming inflexible), if you play an ineligible above-age player...you should be barred from even coaching in the state for a decade at least. Needs to be serious penalties for cheating. And people wonder why SCCL was formed. Between the KSA teams and the Dalton based clubs playing ineligible above-age players and those clubs looking the other way or actively allowing it and creating player passes with not proof of age there is not a level playing field in the GA Soccer system. It seems GA Soccer doesn't really care to really put a "death penalty" type punishment on a club or two to fix this issue either. Ultimately that is what it will take to fix this issue since it is obvious some coaches and clubs do not care about the rules especially since there really is nothing more than a slap on the wrist if they get caught.
Fraud re: age is SOOO wrong, unfair to say the least, and aggravating as a parent/former team manager that followed the rules and expected everyone to do the same. I think the big clubs left USYS leagues, and continue to do so with the addition of SCCL-P, predominantly for other reasons.
Bottom line, watching KSA U18s and U19s, the overall athleticism is SO beyond their opponents.
And with Dalton, I know also that the HS team kicked butt - and HS admin controls regarding age/eligibility are arguably stronger than USYS/GA Soccer.
Although there's history, age fraud isn't the key reason our boys are losing to these teams.
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Post by papacoach on May 31, 2019 8:53:56 GMT -5
Assuming the rumors, opinions and speculation of KSA seems to be outside the lines of play. Regardless of the opponent in state or out of state, KSA team records and website speaks for themselves. I can along with others speculate and follow along with team results, rankings and advancements of KSA players as they move upward in success; best of luck to the proud few  I can only wonder, if KSA players and teams are as consistent as their training and records say they are, why isn't there a mad scramble by alphabet league upper/lower teams scheduling friendlies/scrimmages against them to learn their methods and tactics since youth soccer is about player experiences and development.
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Post by mot on May 31, 2019 9:23:21 GMT -5
Assuming the rumors, opinions and speculation of KSA seems to be outside the lines of play. Regardless of the opponent in state or out of state, KSA team records and website speaks for themselves. I can along with others speculate and follow along with team results, rankings and advancements of KSA players as they move upward in success; best of luck to the proud few I can only wonder, if KSA players and teams are as consistent as their training and records say they are, why isn't there a mad scramble by alphabet league upper/lower teams scheduling friendlies/scrimmages against them to learn their methods and tactics since youth soccer is about player experiences and development.
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May 31, 2019 9:26:29 GMT -5
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Post by mot on May 31, 2019 9:26:29 GMT -5
I watched them play 3 games this weekend they are nothing special yeah they have speed and play boom ball maybe some of their kids weren’t there.
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May 31, 2019 10:17:20 GMT -5
Post by papacoach on May 31, 2019 10:17:20 GMT -5
which team(s) at KSA kicks/boom and chases? Thats not the style/tactic i have seen them play.. Granted, there was a few teams that used the kick long and sprint straight in primary rounds of state cup for their verison of counter-attacking / transition from keeper to striker though
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Post by infoguy on May 31, 2019 12:03:57 GMT -5
which team(s) at KSA kicks/boom and chases? Thats not the style/tactic i have seen them play.. Granted, there was a few teams that used the kick long and sprint straight in primary rounds of state cup for their verison of counter-attacking / transition from keeper to striker though
The U18 did a bit of that (booming it forward), but there was also some build from the back.
From the midfield, there were a lot of flicks, poking, and whatever to get the ball forward and the vicinity of the box - where they would win 90% of the time, creating shots. More power to them.
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Post by soccergator on May 31, 2019 12:06:36 GMT -5
I've also noticed when teams come back for state cup after taking the spring off, the play on the pitch ain't as pretty as the fall.
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Post by Keeper on May 31, 2019 13:15:50 GMT -5
I've also noticed when teams come back for state cup after taking the spring off, the play on the pitch ain't as pretty as the fall. Cough cough high school soccer is rec ball cough cough. |
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Post by freeyouthsoccer on May 31, 2019 14:49:21 GMT -5
I've also noticed when teams come back for state cup after taking the spring off, the play on the pitch ain't as pretty as the fall. Cough cough high school soccer is rec ball cough cough. Sad but true. HS soccer can be painful to watch sometimes. I thought I was just being a grumpy old lady. |
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May 31, 2019 18:54:36 GMT -5
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Post by mot on May 31, 2019 18:54:36 GMT -5
Cough cough high school soccer is rec ball cough cough. Sad but true. HS soccer can be painful to watch sometimes. I thought I was just being a grumpy old lady. |
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Post by footy on Jun 3, 2019 6:59:15 GMT -5
What happened to this team at State Cup?
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Post by infoguy on Jun 3, 2019 7:17:10 GMT -5
What happened to this team at State Cup? They U18s won it. |
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