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Post by papacoach on Sept 13, 2019 5:17:11 GMT -5
Want to stir the pot, what’s the story with KSA and their practice fields? I heard they haven’t practiced at Bryson park lately... any rumor or fact(s) to the field location hopping story? Ksa got kicked out of Bryson Park last year. Bryson Park has their own soccer program again. KSA have Harmony Grove, mainly and share/rent the turf fields at Rock Springs and South Gwinnett Parks. KSA seems to be locked out of harmony grove fields. heard a rumor that KSA teams are practicing in the parking lot at harmony grove and not on the fields |
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KSA 01
Sept 13, 2019 9:48:07 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Sept 13, 2019 9:48:07 GMT -5
Ksa got kicked out of Bryson Park last year. Bryson Park has their own soccer program again. KSA have Harmony Grove, mainly and share/rent the turf fields at Rock Springs and South Gwinnett Parks. KSA seems to be locked out of harmony grove fields. heard a rumor that KSA teams are practicing in the parking lot at harmony grove and not on the fields m Well it’s been a couple years but the parking lot did have more grass then the actual field 🤷🏻♂️ |
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KSA 01
Sept 13, 2019 10:19:12 GMT -5
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Post by soccerwistle on Sept 13, 2019 10:19:12 GMT -5
Yet we are not looking at UFA, Sergio magana was the biggest cheater during the NSA days would recruit girls with some talent who where 2 years older. Still doing same tactics till this day, he just won some type of tournament they called nationals cup, had a u15 team with a 17 yr player on it. He will only recruit Hispanic girls for this purpose. Hmmm... I never have an issue with calling out bad behavior and bad actors in the world of Youth Soccer. However, when you levy an accusation like this, please be ready, willing and able to back things up with proof, facts and a real justification that isn't exclusively in your head alone. Sergio is a top-notch Coach with a stellar record of working within the youth ranks on both the boys n girls side. He took over this team mid season 2/3 years ago after their coach bailed for another Big 5.5 club. That coach had inherited an Athena A team but proceeded to drive them down into an Athena C team. Morale was low and many girls were on the verge of leaving and some wanting to quit soccer all-together. Sergio coached them all the way back to Athena A and ultimately RPL, even with him losing girls to other ECNL clubs yearly. Also, for the record, he didn't win a tournament called Nationals cub, after a whole season of playing in the SCCL within the US Club Soccer umbrella, the team *qualified* for and ultimately won the US Club Soccer #NationalCupXVIII!! 🏆🏆🏆 I say all this to give a picture that he doesn't have to cheat. I await and look forward to your response justifying your accusations and proving to me that it's not all in your head... BTW, i'm guess the girls show in this reel are the black and white Hispanic girls you referred to earlier  http://instagr.am/p/B0RdL1Inf-n Because he didn’t cheat i was just pulling your leg. He won’t it fair and square and you know what , so did Ksa:) |
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KSA 01
Sept 13, 2019 10:20:16 GMT -5
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Post by soccerwistle on Sept 13, 2019 10:20:16 GMT -5
Ksa got kicked out of Bryson Park last year. Bryson Park has their own soccer program again. KSA have Harmony Grove, mainly and share/rent the turf fields at Rock Springs and South Gwinnett Parks. KSA seems to be locked out of harmony grove fields. heard a rumor that KSA teams are practicing in the parking lot at harmony grove and not on the fields I would be able to confirm this but I havnt been around lately to see if it’s true or not |
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KSA 01
Sept 13, 2019 10:31:49 GMT -5
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Post by soccerwhistle on Sept 13, 2019 10:31:49 GMT -5
I agree nothing wrong with opinions but they have to have some fact to them, no rumors. because a fact at least people will feel ashamed and have guilt if they did it or not but a rumor, that’s low. Sorry I am new around here;) I'm sorry but i'm kind of confused. So to be sure i'm understanding you, you are rebranding a rumor as fact, or you were doing an experiment and going with what you perceive as the trend on here of folks spreading rumors? For the record and so there is no illusion or confusion. I am a proud parent of two kids that started and were developed by UFA. Secondly, my kids don't play SCCL but I think it's a league that with the right leadership and direction, could grow into a solid option outside of DA/ECNL. Like others have noted, if you are going to drop a firebomb like accusing someone of cheating, at least have the decency to back it up. Folks on here deserve to know all the facts to make an informed opinion of their own. Thankfully most folks on here are experienced, well informed and don't go off of trojans, rumors or personal vendettas. I can tell you didn’t even take time to read what’s as said. |
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KSA 01
Sept 14, 2019 4:24:49 GMT -5
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Post by ultimatedad on Sept 14, 2019 4:24:49 GMT -5
Wait did someone from the Big Five admit that SCCL is not a solid league? El Milagro.
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KSA 01
Sept 14, 2019 5:05:33 GMT -5
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Post by papacoach on Sept 14, 2019 5:05:33 GMT -5
Wait did someone from the Big Five admit that SCCL is not a solid league? El Milagro. Is SCCL even part of KSA Schedules? Hmmm... |
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KSA 01
Sept 14, 2019 22:47:23 GMT -5
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Post by ultimatedad on Sept 14, 2019 22:47:23 GMT -5
Is SSCL coed?
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KSA 01
Sept 16, 2019 18:07:11 GMT -5
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Post by papacoach on Sept 16, 2019 18:07:11 GMT -5
KSA teams seem to lack access to soccer fields for practice... A club w/o practice fields maybe the straw that broke the horses back...
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KSA 01
Sept 16, 2019 18:35:54 GMT -5
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Post by jkdub1 on Sept 16, 2019 18:35:54 GMT -5
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KSA 01
Sept 16, 2019 20:17:18 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Sept 16, 2019 20:17:18 GMT -5
Yep sounds right. If they don’t want to follow the BS rules Gwinnett County sets up for their “Parks & Rec” programs to use County resources then they don’t get certified. Already bad enough that Gsa and Ufa both disregard the out of County fees that their players should be paying for access to county parks so why add another. |
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 16, 2019 23:24:43 GMT -5
What does it say that KSA keeps bouncing around from park to park every year?
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KSA 01
Sept 17, 2019 5:26:29 GMT -5
Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 17, 2019 5:26:29 GMT -5
What does it say that KSA keeps bouncing around from park to park every year? I'm not a fan of KSA, but some of this probably has to do with bigger clubs getting them shut out by knowing the right people in the counties they are trying to get access to fields. |
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KSA 01
Sept 17, 2019 6:29:30 GMT -5
Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 17, 2019 6:29:30 GMT -5
What does it say that KSA keeps bouncing around from park to park every year? I'm not a fan of KSA, but some of this probably has to do with bigger clubs getting them shut out by knowing the right people in the counties they are trying to get access to fields. A large part of what you say is absolutely true. KSA has successfully billed themselves at the "other" anti-establishment option from the big clubs. So far, they have been successful with that approach. However, this is still a relationship based industry. Get to know the shot callers at the county level. Why, because then you'll know how to navigate these kinds of impediments to attaining your goal. I'm sure if they did, this certification or designation wouldn't be an issue and it would ultimately benefit the families who choose to go to KSA in their pocket book. |
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KSA 01
Sept 17, 2019 7:56:39 GMT -5
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 17, 2019 7:56:39 GMT -5
I don't know much on this subject, but does Gwinnett require that you have rec soccer in order to use the fields in this manner? Im assuming KSA doesn't do rec?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 17, 2019 8:03:46 GMT -5
KSA has the right concept and mindset, the problem is it's clearly at the expense a few individuals who get taken advantage of and cover $$$ for a team.
So they have been kicked out of Dekalb and now this with Gwinnett?
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KSA 01
Sept 17, 2019 8:06:08 GMT -5
Post by justwatching on Sept 17, 2019 8:06:08 GMT -5
So why is KSA not being granted the designation they are requesting? Is there some criteria that is not being met?
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KSA 01
Sept 17, 2019 22:21:29 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Sept 17, 2019 22:21:29 GMT -5
I don't know much on this subject, but does Gwinnett require that you have rec soccer in order to use the fields in this manner? Im assuming KSA doesn't do rec? Yes part of it is they offer programs for all levels and participation. |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 17, 2019 22:24:00 GMT -5
So why is KSA not being granted the designation they are requesting? Is there some criteria that is not being met? Money and oversight. Ksa wont open their books and be apart of the profit sharing program that everyone else does. Gwinnett gives each park so much money each year but it has to be matched by the program based off how much they are bringing in. Plus you have to have open books showing where your players reside (to some extent) so out of county players have to pay the $90 per season fee. |
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KSA 01
Sept 18, 2019 8:27:25 GMT -5
Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 18, 2019 8:27:25 GMT -5
So why is KSA not being granted the designation they are requesting? Is there some criteria that is not being met? Money and oversight. Ksa wont open their books and be apart of the profit sharing program that everyone else does. Gwinnett gives each park so much money each year but it has to be matched by the program based off how much they are bringing in. Plus you have to have open books showing where your players reside (to some extent) so out of county players have to pay the $90 per season fee. Well since we know that sometimes half or more of their teams don't pay a dime and are all scholarship players, they probably don't have the money to match the county. Not to mention if some of the players nationalities and ages are being questioned (which I assume is the case from posts here previously), I'm sure trying to figure out what county these kids live in will be a mess as well. |
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Post by soccermonster on Sept 18, 2019 9:02:02 GMT -5
Money and oversight. Ksa wont open their books and be apart of the profit sharing program that everyone else does. Gwinnett gives each park so much money each year but it has to be matched by the program based off how much they are bringing in. Plus you have to have open books showing where your players reside (to some extent) so out of county players have to pay the $90 per season fee. Well since we know that sometimes half or more of their teams don't pay a dime and are all scholarship players, they probably don't have the money to match the county. Not to mention if some of the players nationalities and ages are being questioned (which I assume is the case from posts here previously), I'm sure trying to figure out what county these kids live in will be a mess as well. This is truly sad to hear. I have several friends at this club and its true that many of them can't afford what we pay in dues/travel/uniform fees etc. These kids love the coaches there and they treat each other like family and are very happy to train and spend time with each other even if its in the parking lot. The coaches and other parents help out by offering rides to those who can't get to practice because both parents are working multiple jobs. None of my coaches at my destination club would ever do that. Meanwhile we get to play on turf, our kids have $200 pair of cleats and multiple uniforms because we are too lazy to wash them daily. It's eye opening for sure. Makes me feel a bit ashamed.  |
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Post by papacoach on Sept 18, 2019 9:44:07 GMT -5
From what I heard, Most to majority of kids live outside of Gwinnett.
Yes, 45-60% of team rosters have scholarship kids filling the spots where a few paying parents pay majority to all team related costs including team league registration fees.
Club doesn’t seem to cover their scholarship players or at least a portion of their share.. It seems costs are shifted to parents to fund the club’s scholarship program.. safe to say, KSA scholarship fund is more like a parent scholarship fund (lol)
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 18, 2019 9:44:55 GMT -5
Well since we know that sometimes half or more of their teams don't pay a dime and are all scholarship players, they probably don't have the money to match the county. Not to mention if some of the players nationalities and ages are being questioned (which I assume is the case from posts here previously), I'm sure trying to figure out what county these kids live in will be a mess as well. This is truly sad to hear. I have several friends at this club and its true that many of them can't afford what we pay in dues/travel/uniform fees etc. These kids love the coaches there and they treat each other like family and are very happy to train and spend time with each other even if its in the parking lot. The coaches and other parents help out by offering rides to those who can't get to practice because both parents are working multiple jobs. None of my coaches at my destination club would ever do that. Meanwhile we get to play on turf, our kids have $200 pair of cleats and multiple uniforms because we are too lazy to wash them daily. It's eye opening for sure. Makes me feel a bit ashamed. Its the state of soccer sadly. There is nothing you nor I can do in the scheme of things to stop it. The pay for play youth sports model will never go away in America. You just got to play the game and hope your kids get something from it. It is sad how many talented players do get lost in the shuffle due to money though. I will say though if the kid really is spectacular they will be noticed even if poor, and someone will help them along to get where they need to be. |
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KSA 01
Sept 18, 2019 13:46:04 GMT -5
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Post by soccerwistle on Sept 18, 2019 13:46:04 GMT -5
This is truly sad to hear. I have several friends at this club and its true that many of them can't afford what we pay in dues/travel/uniform fees etc. These kids love the coaches there and they treat each other like family and are very happy to train and spend time with each other even if its in the parking lot. The coaches and other parents help out by offering rides to those who can't get to practice because both parents are working multiple jobs. None of my coaches at my destination club would ever do that. Meanwhile we get to play on turf, our kids have $200 pair of cleats and multiple uniforms because we are too lazy to wash them daily. It's eye opening for sure. Makes me feel a bit ashamed. Its the state of soccer sadly. There is nothing you nor I can do in the scheme of things to stop it. The pay for play youth sports model will never go away in America. You just got to play the game and hope your kids get something from it. It is sad how many talented players do get lost in the shuffle due to money though. I will say though if the kid really is spectacular they will be noticed even if poor, and someone will help them along to get where they need to be. Bruno Kalonji has been light in the darkness for those type of kids you have mentioned |
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Post by papacoach on Sept 18, 2019 14:13:37 GMT -5
He’s probably one of the many reasons why the club is in the current financial situation with Gwinnett Park and Rec; play and pay within the define rules and regulations.
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KSA 01
Sept 18, 2019 23:17:25 GMT -5
Post by soccerguru on Sept 18, 2019 23:17:25 GMT -5
Bruno a light for these kids, I really do hope so but I can't really see it. Most of these kids and parents hate Bruno, they just want to play for the best team, anyway anyhow.
On the B-side, Bruno puts boys in the pros, who else does that in Atlanta besides AU?
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KSA 01
Sept 19, 2019 10:48:22 GMT -5
Post by TheMadOx on Sept 19, 2019 10:48:22 GMT -5
Pros? Really? If you want to call 3rd division in Romania professional, I guess so.
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Post by atv on Sept 19, 2019 11:11:48 GMT -5
Pros? Really? If you want to call 3rd division in Romania professional, I guess so. I have heard stories of American players getting over there and coaches asking players to pay ($$$$) for playing time! |
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KSA 01
Sept 19, 2019 12:33:10 GMT -5
Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 19, 2019 12:33:10 GMT -5
Sadly, this is not only rampant with American players. Many foreign players go thru this when local coaches can just push their own favored "local" parents...
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KSA 01
Sept 19, 2019 14:01:32 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 19, 2019 14:01:32 GMT -5
I imagine if you're not at least *recognized* by your national team (who knows what nations in this case), its a lot tougher to sell yourself to a 2nd division anywhere in the world. Here in the states we do have college soccer which is a bit of a proving ground for USL/MLS (which is not really saying a ton, but if pro soccer is your dream, its an avenue).
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