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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 19, 2019 22:01:59 GMT -5
It’s just unfortunate that we have one club in town spending millions flying kids around the globe for scrimmages and we have another club in the city trying anything they can to help kids who can’t afford to play - yet the club can’t even afford to pay for fields.
It’s what happens in the real world unfortunately - the haves and have nots.
As long as this dynamic continue US Soccer will continue to suck.
I know so many quality kids that couldn’t afford to play competitive soccer this year and quit when they realized the true cost. Kids went back to the Hispanic leagues. Language barrier was part of the issue and lack of understanding of the scholarship process but still - only so many kids can be on scholarship on a team.
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KSA 01
Sept 20, 2019 6:17:19 GMT -5
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Post by atv on Sept 20, 2019 6:17:19 GMT -5
... so someone please articulate to me why KSA cannot get Youth Athletic Association status with the county? I am frankly having a hard time following this story. What is the process for applying? What are the guidelines? When did they apply? What was the result?
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Post by papacoach on Sept 20, 2019 7:21:19 GMT -5
Not sure on the back office causing the adult indifference between KSA and park and rec, however, players are back on the fields at Harmony grove but w/o lights making 8ish (darkness) a hard stop.
Good point, If other clubs were able to obtain the YAA approval through applying and following the define guidelines, what’s the missing pieces to the KSA story.., oh, Bruno, financial $$, incompetent club operations toward administration requirements, etc.. maybe, maybe not, or all above..
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Sept 20, 2019 13:10:08 GMT -5
Post by 4theloveofsoccer on Sept 20, 2019 13:10:08 GMT -5
I can only assume on why KSA/Bruno have this problem upon them from what I've heard on the fields and what has been posted on here. Overall it is unfortunate for all the players to be in this type of environment practicing in parking lots and etc. and they deserve better.
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Post by Soccerphreak on Sept 21, 2019 11:35:46 GMT -5
It’s just unfortunate that we have one club in town spending millions flying kids around the globe for scrimmages and we have another club in the city trying anything they can to help kids who can’t afford to play - yet the club can’t even afford to pay for fields. It’s what happens in the real world unfortunately - the haves and have nots. As long as this dynamic continue US Soccer will continue to suck. I know so many quality kids that couldn’t afford to play competitive soccer this year and quit when they realized the true cost. Kids went back to the Hispanic leagues. Language barrier was part of the issue and lack of understanding of the scholarship process but still - only so many kids can be on scholarship on a team.
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Post by Soccerphreak on Sept 21, 2019 11:41:12 GMT -5
Soccerhouse I couldn’t agree more or have said it better myself. Thank you!
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Sept 28, 2019 16:35:28 GMT -5
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Post by papacoach on Sept 28, 2019 16:35:28 GMT -5
I heard KSA had a few games at Harmony Grove today and everything that could’ve went wrong did. No prior game field preparation was done like field markings, missing corner flags, etc..
Refs were late and inexperienced and wearing KSA logo clothing , KSA home team didn’t have balls for the match, team was warned to start the game, player cards missing, game sheet missing and mismatched game uniforms.
Hopefully this isn’t the norm for KSA
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Sept 28, 2019 17:22:12 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Sept 28, 2019 17:22:12 GMT -5
I heard KSA had a few games at Harmony Grove today and everything that could’ve went wrong did. No prior game field preparation was done like field markings, missing corner flags, etc.. Refs were late and inexperienced and wearing KSA logo clothing , KSA home team didn’t have balls for the match, team was warned to start the game, player cards missing, game sheet missing and mismatched game uniforms. Hopefully this isn’t the norm for KSA Sounds like the beginning of protest season.
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KSA 01
Sept 28, 2019 18:14:08 GMT -5
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 28, 2019 18:14:08 GMT -5
And there you go. Sounds like poor management/oversight.
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Sept 28, 2019 20:00:16 GMT -5
Post by 4theloveofsoccer on Sept 28, 2019 20:00:16 GMT -5
I heard KSA had a few games at Harmony Grove today and everything that could’ve went wrong did. No prior game field preparation was done like field markings, missing corner flags, etc.. Refs were late and inexperienced and wearing KSA logo clothing , KSA home team didn’t have balls for the match, team was warned to start the game, player cards missing, game sheet missing and mismatched game uniforms. Hopefully this isn’t the norm for KSA Hate to hear this for everyone involved, especially the players and kids participating.
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KSA 01
Sept 28, 2019 21:06:18 GMT -5
Post by fan on Sept 28, 2019 21:06:18 GMT -5
Their U12 team playing in the Georgia Soccer U12 league forfeited all of their games for the season. I don't know the reason but hopefully those players are getting some games in somewhere.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Sept 28, 2019 21:51:12 GMT -5
Sad for u12s if true. Any information on why?
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Sept 28, 2019 21:57:24 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Sept 28, 2019 21:57:24 GMT -5
Their U12 team playing in the Georgia Soccer U12 league forfeited all of their games for the season. I don't know the reason but hopefully those players are getting some games in somewhere. Too many games. Between their academy schedule, playing up with the U13s and the same coach having multiple teams they didn’t plan it out. We were suppose to play them and they couldn’t get a coach and enough players to the scheduled time. Sounded like they thought they could just pick in chose when they played.
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Sept 28, 2019 23:16:39 GMT -5
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 28, 2019 23:16:39 GMT -5
My only experience playing against KSA last year in Select, when our team showed up there was no one there from the other team. We found another coach and he contacted Bruno. We were then told that the game had been cancelled because they were unable to secure field, refs or enough players. They didn't inform GA Soccer or our club, game should have been forfeited but he called GA Soccer and begged for the game to happen. Game was played another time in our fields
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Sept 29, 2019 7:19:22 GMT -5
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 29, 2019 7:19:22 GMT -5
Definitely sounds like a club deserving of special consideration for Gwinnett county parks and rec.
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KSA 01
Sept 29, 2019 17:33:01 GMT -5
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Post by papacoach on Sept 29, 2019 17:33:01 GMT -5
Check out their (KSA) 03 Classic one team.
Can we say desperation and lacking?
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Sept 30, 2019 9:57:53 GMT -5
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Post by soccerwistle on Sept 30, 2019 9:57:53 GMT -5
I heard KSA had a few games at Harmony Grove today and everything that could’ve went wrong did. No prior game field preparation was done like field markings, missing corner flags, etc.. Refs were late and inexperienced and wearing KSA logo clothing , KSA home team didn’t have balls for the match, team was warned to start the game, player cards missing, game sheet missing and mismatched game uniforms. Hopefully this isn’t the norm for KSA How do you hear that? I know this is a Ksa specified thread but let’s not forget that it’s also been done at other clubs. I can’t confirm your claims , sense I have not been down there in a while but that is the reality of most clubs and referees, who’s job is not being taken serious off. They hide behind that new rule, and try to quickly end games, instead of taking the profession seriously. Pay the referees better , and you will get better refs.
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KSA 01
Sept 30, 2019 12:43:47 GMT -5
Post by papacoach on Sept 30, 2019 12:43:47 GMT -5
How I know... ask anyone from the 03 Steamers FC team about their game last Saturday at Harmony grove park
In addition, check out the Ga Soccer Fall 2019 schedule.
In four games so far, they lost 3 by scores of 0-7. 2-8 and 1-8, i would say desperation and lacking something
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KSA 01
Oct 4, 2019 6:07:22 GMT -5
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Post by soccerwistle on Oct 4, 2019 6:07:22 GMT -5
How I know... ask anyone from the 03 Steamers FC team about their game last Saturday at Harmony grove park In addition, check out the Ga Soccer Fall 2019 schedule. In four games so far, they lost 3 by scores of 0-7. 2-8 and 1-8, i would say desperation and lacking something It’s ok to lose , that’s part of the game , congratulations to steamers. However I am glad you look at Ksa with such high praise. That Ksa losing to you is so shocking and a sign of defeat. Thank you for having such a high standard for a club that deserves it.
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Post by papacoach on Oct 4, 2019 7:18:16 GMT -5
soccerwistle: Winning or Losing a league game or maybe ten wasn't the main message but thanks for providing your two cents to the thread... Don't confuse past results with current day. Just because the Falcons went to the Super Bowl and lost twice doesn't mean anything to this season which seems to be in desperation mode too. I bet Arthur Blank may say something different though about Ws and Ls though(lol)... Just in case you missed the start of the conversation or simply skipped over it: "I heard KSA had a few games at Harmony Grove today and everything that could’ve went wrong did. No prior game field preparation was done like field markings, missing corner flags, etc... Refs were late and inexperienced and wearing KSA logo clothing, KSA home team didn’t have balls for the match, team was warned to start the game, player cards missing, game sheet missing and mismatched game uniforms. ***Hopefully this isn’t the norm for KSA***" Having a standard regardless of how high the bar is, is still the standard everyone expects and deserves; this isn't something new or different... field preparation is a requirement, being on time and ready to play in the right matching uniforms is a common practice for all team and possible requirement too... Having the basics to start a soccer game like game sheets, player cards in order is probably a standard that most to all team seem to meet too... Oh, borrowing the visiting teams balls for the game due to lack of from the home team doesn't seem like a standard and requirement was met also... No reason to thank me in mentioning the high standards the club deserved a few weekends ago.
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KSA 01
Oct 30, 2019 14:19:11 GMT -5
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Post by soccerwistle on Oct 30, 2019 14:19:11 GMT -5
Right, but post age-mandate change (ages becoming inflexible), if you play an ineligible above-age player...you should be barred from even coaching in the state for a decade at least. Needs to be serious penalties for cheating. And people wonder why SCCL was formed. Between the KSA teams and the Dalton based clubs playing ineligible above-age players and those clubs looking the other way or actively allowing it and creating player passes with not proof of age there is not a level playing field in the GA Soccer system. It seems GA Soccer doesn't really care to really put a "death penalty" type punishment on a club or two to fix this issue either. Ultimately that is what it will take to fix this issue since it is obvious some coaches and clubs do not care about the rules especially since there really is nothing more than a slap on the wrist if they get caught. Sick daddy wow, I didn’t know this and actually i just heard of a dalton team last year called NASA BELLES who got caught but just got a slap on the wrist just like you said. However they only forfeited one game so who knows all the other games that where played
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Oct 30, 2019 17:30:33 GMT -5
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Post by jkdub1 on Oct 30, 2019 17:30:33 GMT -5
And people wonder why SCCL was formed. Between the KSA teams and the Dalton based clubs playing ineligible above-age players and those clubs looking the other way or actively allowing it and creating player passes with not proof of age there is not a level playing field in the GA Soccer system. It seems GA Soccer doesn't really care to really put a "death penalty" type punishment on a club or two to fix this issue either. Ultimately that is what it will take to fix this issue since it is obvious some coaches and clubs do not care about the rules especially since there really is nothing more than a slap on the wrist if they get caught. Sick daddy wow, I didn’t know this and actually i just heard of a dalton team last year called NASA BELLES who got caught but just got a slap on the wrist just like you said. However they only forfeited one game so who knows all the other games that where played Assuming we are speaking of the same team/event, that team received more than a slap on the wrist and a 1 game forfeit. Quite a bit more (I won't go into details but GA Soccer reacted quickly and appropriately). GA Soccer very much "cared" in that instance and we can all hope that they continue to do so.
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Nov 5, 2019 16:20:22 GMT -5
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Post by soccerwistle on Nov 5, 2019 16:20:22 GMT -5
Sick daddy wow, I didn’t know this and actually i just heard of a dalton team last year called NASA BELLES who got caught but just got a slap on the wrist just like you said. However they only forfeited one game so who knows all the other games that where played Assuming we are speaking of the same team/event, that team received more than a slap on the wrist and a 1 game forfeit. Quite a bit more (I won't go into details but GA Soccer reacted quickly and appropriately). GA Soccer very much "cared" in that instance and we can all hope that they continue to do so. oh wow! Thanks for the update.
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