|
Post by goldcoast on May 15, 2019 8:03:41 GMT -5
Just heard this is a done deal. 🍿
|
|
|
Post by atlsoccerdad on May 15, 2019 8:09:20 GMT -5
What is HCU?
|
|
|
Post by cleansheet on May 15, 2019 8:12:31 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by cleansheet on May 15, 2019 8:13:01 GMT -5
Just heard this is a done deal. 🍿 This isn’t very strategic. Won’t help them after u11.
|
|
|
Post by Soccerhouse on May 15, 2019 8:14:52 GMT -5
This can't be real?
|
|
|
Post by soccernotfootball on May 15, 2019 8:19:10 GMT -5
No way this is real. Geographically or numbers in player pool... silly season.
|
|
|
Post by atv on May 15, 2019 9:49:34 GMT -5
What would be driving this? I think Henry County has one of the largest rec programs and has several fields (Mount Carmel Park). But from a competitive soccer program I don’t think we’ve ever played them.
|
|
|
Post by ultimatedad on May 15, 2019 10:22:18 GMT -5
Inter just merged with DDY Chiefs and Tysa
|
|
|
Post by cleansheet on May 15, 2019 10:30:50 GMT -5
Inter just merged with DDY Chiefs and Tysa If true, this would make sense geographically and present economies of scale, but still no SCCL, NPL, NL, DPL, ECNL or DA.
|
|
|
Post by soccernotfootball on May 15, 2019 10:42:14 GMT -5
Inter just merged with DDY Chiefs and Tysa If true, this would make sense geographically and present economies of scale, but still no SCCL, NPL, NL, DPL, ECNL or DA. Sure, geographic sense - but still not true. Plus, with DDY being through the YMCA, how would that be possible?
|
|
|
Post by atlfutboldad on May 15, 2019 10:44:34 GMT -5
This makes sense geographically. Inter/DDY use some of the same facilities. They could be positioning themselves to make a play at ECNL or NPL or even SCCL. Adding RYSA they would own most of east ATL. GSA will have to fight to keep them out of the competitive leagues (since they share some player pool). If AFC could merge with all the south side, we could have a true big 8 that covers the complete area of Atlanta metropolitan area.
Also...why is none of this announced officially? Under 2 weeks until tryouts start.
|
|
|
Post by soccernotfootball on May 15, 2019 10:47:39 GMT -5
Inter Is Not Merging WIth DDY/TYSA/CHIEFS. Not happening. Period.
|
|
|
Post by soccerfan30 on May 15, 2019 11:09:21 GMT -5
If true, this would make sense geographically and present economies of scale, but still no SCCL, NPL, NL, DPL, ECNL or DA. Sure, geographic sense - but still not true. Plus, with DDY being through the YMCA, how would that be possible? Years ago I was the Soccer Director at DDY, I started the Academy Program, started a soccer board and implemented paid professional coaches, up to that point we had volunteers for the select program. We had about 600 kids annually per year, when I left in 2004 we had grown to 1,600 kids annually. This was when each YMCA was responsible for their own program (pre MAYS where everything now is under one entity). We had secured local parks and Agnes Scott College as a playing venue. Prior to me leaving we had serious discussions of a DDY /Inter Atlanta merger where the YMCA would run the entire rec program while Inter Atlanta would run the academy and select programs, however the YMCA nixed the idea.
|
|
|
Post by atlsoccer on May 15, 2019 11:35:44 GMT -5
I have heard that HCU (if that is Henry County for sure?) is merging with RYSA or AFU.
|
|
|
Post by atv on May 15, 2019 11:37:56 GMT -5
Dam ... this thread is all over the place on rumors LOL. 😂 However, RYSA and Henry County I might believe
|
|
|
Post by Soccerhouse on May 15, 2019 11:41:36 GMT -5
Yea, this is starting to look like the good ole message board from before..........
a place we promised to never become!!!
|
|
|
Post by atlfutboldad on May 15, 2019 12:12:35 GMT -5
I have heard that HCU (if that is Henry County for sure?) is merging with RYSA or AFU. I have heard both of those (but I don't think both are true?), not sure what's true.
|
|
|
Post by atlfutboldad on May 15, 2019 12:14:20 GMT -5
Yea, this is starting to look like the good ole message board from before.......... a place we promised to never become!!! At least its better than the Texas one, that place is a dumpster fire. Apart from speculation, there is SOME truth in these rumors surely. It seems this is a year for big strategic mergers.
|
|
|
Post by soccerloafer on May 15, 2019 13:04:57 GMT -5
Sure, geographic sense - but still not true. Plus, with DDY being through the YMCA, how would that be possible? Years ago I was the Soccer Director at DDY, I started the Academy Program, started a soccer board and implemented paid professional coaches, up to that point we had volunteers for the select program. We had about 600 kids annually per year, when I left in 2004 we had grown to 1,600 kids annually. This was when each YMCA was responsible for their own program (pre MAYS where everything now is under one entity). We had secured local parks and Agnes Scott College as a playing venue. Prior to me leaving we had serious discussions of a DDY /Inter Atlanta merger where the YMCA would run the entire rec program while Inter Atlanta would run the academy and select programs, however the YMCA nixed the idea. Same would have made sense for Cobb FC and the NW YMCA several years ago. The Y does a mediocre job with Academy and Select, such that I think they do a disservice to the kids in those programs. Primary reason is they often field only one team per age group, giving zero upward mobility for higher quality players within the club.
|
|
|
Post by ultimatedad on May 15, 2019 13:11:16 GMT -5
Ddy inter AU Pipeline of the most dedicated and motivated kids in Clarkston to the pros!
|
|
|
Post by atlfutboldad on May 15, 2019 13:23:38 GMT -5
Years ago I was the Soccer Director at DDY, I started the Academy Program, started a soccer board and implemented paid professional coaches, up to that point we had volunteers for the select program. We had about 600 kids annually per year, when I left in 2004 we had grown to 1,600 kids annually. This was when each YMCA was responsible for their own program (pre MAYS where everything now is under one entity). We had secured local parks and Agnes Scott College as a playing venue. Prior to me leaving we had serious discussions of a DDY /Inter Atlanta merger where the YMCA would run the entire rec program while Inter Atlanta would run the academy and select programs, however the YMCA nixed the idea. Same would have made sense for Cobb FC and the NW YMCA several years ago. The Y does a mediocre job with Academy and Select, such that I think they do a disservice to the kids in those programs. Primary reason is they often field only one team per age group, giving zero upward mobility for higher quality players within the club. I was going to say something similar but bit my tongue. The Y has a different set of interests and concerns and I imagine the money goes into a larger money pool and helps pay for things non-soccer-related. For rec that's great, but not for academy/select.
|
|
|
Post by soccerfan30 on May 15, 2019 13:40:20 GMT -5
Same would have made sense for Cobb FC and the NW YMCA several years ago. The Y does a mediocre job with Academy and Select, such that I think they do a disservice to the kids in those programs. Primary reason is they often field only one team per age group, giving zero upward mobility for higher quality players within the club. I was going to say something similar but bit my tongue. The Y has a different set of interests and concerns and I imagine the money goes into a larger money pool and helps pay for things non-soccer-related. For rec that's great, but not for academy/select. Exactly right, that is why we proposed that DDY take over all the recreational programs and Inter to take over the academy/select programs. It was frustrating as someone who was invested in growing the program while DDY wasn't interested in providing a more competitive platform for the players. Outside of paid facility memberships, soccer was the second biggest revenue generator when I was at DDY. In the long term they would have made more money with a larger recreational program and still meet the needs of the higher level players with the proposed merger back then.
|
|
|
Post by Keeper on May 15, 2019 14:05:35 GMT -5
Inter Is Not Merging WIth DDY/TYSA/CHIEFS. Not happening. Period. Inter isn’t taking over, but there have been talks of one of those clubs taking Inter over in a reverse merger. Especially since Inter plans for a new park have completely stalled.
|
|
|
Post by soccernotfootball on May 15, 2019 14:09:09 GMT -5
Inter Is Not Merging WIth DDY/TYSA/CHIEFS. Not happening. Period. Inter isn’t taking over, but there have been talks of one of those clubs taking Inter over in a reverse merger. Especially since Inter plans for a new park have completely stalled. If that were the case, the only thing that makes sense would be DDY/Inter. I don't think the other two have much in the way of numbers that would enable them to take over Inter. Also, in terms of player pools and proximity - there's a lot of DDY/Inter crossover.
|
|
|
Post by ultimatedad on May 15, 2019 14:43:54 GMT -5
The only reason I added the Chiefs is because they seem to develope players as well as Inter. Small but high quality. Like combining BMW and Porche. Might not be as big as Ford and Chevy but killing it with their relatively small player pools.
|
|
|
Post by Keeper on May 15, 2019 14:53:49 GMT -5
The only reason I added the Chiefs is because they seem to develope players as well as Inter. Small but high quality. Like combining BMW and Porche. Might not be as big as Ford and Chevy but killing it with their relatively small player pools. Chiefs also has that brand new turf complex in Dunwoody being built now and has complete remodel of Pleasantdale going on. Two years they’ll have 7 brand new fields with half of them turf.
|
|
|
Post by soccernotfootball on May 15, 2019 15:33:05 GMT -5
The only reason I added the Chiefs is because they seem to develope players as well as Inter. Small but high quality. Like combining BMW and Porche. Might not be as big as Ford and Chevy but killing it with their relatively small player pools. Chiefs also has that brand new turf complex in Dunwoody being built now and has complete remodel of Pleasantdale going on. Two years they’ll have 7 brand new fields with half of them turf. Just curious... what players have they developed?
|
|
|
Post by soccerloafer on May 15, 2019 15:39:43 GMT -5
I was going to say something similar but bit my tongue. The Y has a different set of interests and concerns and I imagine the money goes into a larger money pool and helps pay for things non-soccer-related. For rec that's great, but not for academy/select. Exactly right, that is why we proposed that DDY take over all the recreational programs and Inter to take over the academy/select programs. It was frustrating as someone who was invested in growing the program while DDY wasn't interested in providing a more competitive platform for the players. Outside of paid facility memberships, soccer was the second biggest revenue generator when I was at DDY. In the long term they would have made more money with a larger recreational program and still meet the needs of the higher level players with the proposed merger back then. Actual conversation between me (running a couple of academy teams) and the director: Y - good news, next season we've added AFU, GSA, Tophat, and UFA to your schedule Me - great. We'll need field space to add a third night of training so we can be competitive. Y - can't do that, this is the Y. That's too much soccer. Me - WTF? so you want us to go be cannon fodder. how is that helpful? And that was my last year there. And most of the kids. For the record, our top team went 2-2 and was respectable. The 2nd and 3rd teams got smoked since we had no depth.
|
|
|
Post by soccerfan30 on May 15, 2019 19:36:52 GMT -5
Exactly right, that is why we proposed that DDY take over all the recreational programs and Inter to take over the academy/select programs. It was frustrating as someone who was invested in growing the program while DDY wasn't interested in providing a more competitive platform for the players. Outside of paid facility memberships, soccer was the second biggest revenue generator when I was at DDY. In the long term they would have made more money with a larger recreational program and still meet the needs of the higher level players with the proposed merger back then. Actual conversation between me (running a couple of academy teams) and the director: Y - good news, next season we've added AFU, GSA, Tophat, and UFA to your schedule Me - great. We'll need field space to add a third night of training so we can be competitive. Y - can't do that, this is the Y. That's too much soccer. Me - WTF? so you want us to go be cannon fodder. how is that helpful? And that was my last year there. And most of the kids. For the record, our top team went 2-2 and was respectable. The 2nd and 3rd teams got smoked since we had no depth. You just described my world at DDY
|
|
|
Post by atlfutboldad on May 15, 2019 21:38:37 GMT -5
Clubs that don't care (everybody pays/everybody plays) are a blight on GA Soccer. The parents pay to have their kids play there and have no idea how little their clubs care about development or even winning. They just want to collect your money and keep the club going. Some of the clubs have good coaches who either get burned out or decide to move on for better opportunities.
The VP of our last club told another parent they don't care if they lose the best girls to other clubs (due to lack of PT/adequate coaching). As long as little Sally's parents keep paying the dues, they're happy to keep on keeping on and everyone who tries out gets a spot.
|
|