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Post by footyfan on May 18, 2019 15:29:08 GMT -5
What happened to BUSA and Vestiva Hills? They are not listed on the map BUSA and VHSC are in the top division only. Not the premier division How will this second division work? Will the games be within conference until the regionals and then a playoff between regions? How many teams get pro/rel?
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 18, 2019 15:56:40 GMT -5
Assume that there will not be any pro/ rel until it happens.
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Post by mistergrinch on May 18, 2019 20:15:02 GMT -5
You talking about LSA? If so i know the players and situation you're talking about. The 08 scored around 9 goals in a game against a weak remote team, but couldnt get into the box from the center circle against big 6 teams. Leading to some very frustrating games... That 08 girl is now playing up on top 07 tophat team which is ranked #1 in the state and she is dominating. Yup.. good little player. But playing up one age group is appropriate, not 2-3. As for the case mentioned above with UFA 05 DA.. there's usually 1-3 kids at an age group who are good enough and really need to play up a year. But 9-10?
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Post by tm02g on May 18, 2019 20:38:33 GMT -5
My understanding is that the SCCL teams appealed to USSF to mediate the issue and GA Soccer lost the mediation. It no longer matters much though as SCCL-P will take most of the A/1 teams from the SCCL clubs out of the mix. To your point, if you look at the coaching projections for UFA Fowler, you will see SCCL-PW teams and then the next level team below that is either Athena B/Classic II or Athena C/Classic III. There are no Athena A/Classic I teams listed at UFA Fowler in the coaching projections.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 18, 2019 20:41:40 GMT -5
You talking about LSA? If so i know the players and situation you're talking about. The 08 scored around 9 goals in a game against a weak remote team, but couldnt get into the box from the center circle against big 6 teams. Leading to some very frustrating games... That 08 girl is now playing up on top 07 tophat team which is ranked #1 in the state and she is dominating. Yes. She is a good player. Very good. But playing up one age group (when your birthday is in January anyway) is not a big deal. However playing up multiple age groups when you are so young and small that you come up to the top of the numbers of the opponent is not a good idea at age 7. I mean we are talking more than a foot in height difference and 2.5 years. She will do very well in the long run (provided she doesn't burn out or change her interests). At 13 or 14 playing up multiple age groups makes more sense (for girls) if they are good enough.
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Post by soccerlegacy on May 18, 2019 20:45:45 GMT -5
So playing good players is wasting a players year? So the NTH DA playing 06s up with the 05s are wasting their years? UFA also? Carleton and Bello playing with the AU first team? How about Pulisic? They're skipping like 4 years of development. These small clubs typically lose 2 players to bigger clubs every year. If that stops, playing up would probably stop. I know LSA has this approach, field the best team possible. Is the converse worse? To have every team every year in the doldrums of C/III? I would certainly play my kid up if it gave a good challenge and better chance of success. I don't think they meant they are wasting the play ups time. They are sacrificing an age group i.e 06's if the 05 has a lot of 06's playing up then the remaining 06's get shafted by having a weak team. I understand the point. However there are times when a play up needs to play up and not every play up is smaller, weaker, less coordinated like he implied. Sometimes their soccer skills development and their size and strength are ALL ahead. However, before the age group changed to birth their was an 08 playing on an 05/06 team. No doubt the kid was good but in that case against the best teams her size WAS a factor and rendered her ineffective. She did well against lower level teams but when against big and good teams she couldn't hang. So as long as people (players, coaches, parents) are wise about it then I think play ups are ok, but there are times when people go overboard with it and it isn't helping anyone. Thank you oraclesfriend, that is exactly what I meant. I wasn't saying you can't play up if they are ready, but with small clubs some of them aren't ready and get pulled up anyway just because they have no depth... and they are sufficent at best. Meanwhile, the team they left is without one of their stronger players and have a season of struggling. I've seen it first hand... Sometimes the context is lost unless you give more detail, I only made a quick comment on this, so forgive me.
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Post by ultimatedad on May 18, 2019 22:09:33 GMT -5
Perhaps some truth in this, but the little clubs lose players to the big clubs so they do what they can to compete. your giving undeserved credit. The only truth is that they cobble together teams from younger ages because they dont have depth ... and because they are younger they have not had their extra year of development, making them sufficient at best. Plus, that sucks that a club will toss a whole years' worth of players away to concentrate on every other year. What about them? They have every right to be paid attention to and aren't.
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Post by ultimatedad on May 18, 2019 22:10:50 GMT -5
I agree. If I found myself on an off year team I would probably look to play on a SCCL team somewhere.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 18, 2019 23:07:39 GMT -5
NTH is NTH.
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Post by ultimatedad on May 19, 2019 6:52:36 GMT -5
Also the smaller clubs teams that are not as good should in theory play against like competition because of the relegation rule in Athena. No matter what your skill level you should find yourself playing meaningful games. This is why teams in this league are not told to keep the games close like SCCL.
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