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Post by uberdriverforsoccer on Aug 1, 2019 15:06:33 GMT -5
I'm sure this is not a new subject, but I am frustrated that alliance clubs play in the other alliance clubs in tournaments. Clubs are just recycling money back into each other. We keep playing the same teams over and over. Just beyond frustrating. 3
Yes my child plays at an alliance club.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 1, 2019 15:09:40 GMT -5
I'm sure this is not a new subject, but I am frustrated that alliance clubs play in the other alliance clubs in tournaments. Clubs are just recycling money back into each other. We keep playing the same teams over and over. Just beyond frustrating. 3
Yes my child plays at an alliance club.
Honestly its the same as the big clubs as well. All the Big 6 play in each other's tournaments as well, and I can't tell you how often we see the same teams over and over again in tournaments, and most of the time we play some of them in the regular season as well. I think to get competition outside of the same old teams, I think a team has to travel at least to Savannah or Jekyll if not out of state completely. |
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 1, 2019 15:39:10 GMT -5
You have to understand that the purpose of tournaments is not to play the best competition or to win some kind of championship but is to make money. I was told by a director at a large club that the reason that the Stonecrest complex would never happen is because it had no club affiliation. Clubs don't send teams to unaffiliated tournaments. Instead, it is horse trading--my club will send 30 teams to your tournament if you send 30 teams to my tournament. Look at pretty much any tournament and count the number of teams from a particular club and then compare that to how many teams the host club sends to that club's tournament later in the season. It is usually within a few teams of being the same number.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 1, 2019 16:04:21 GMT -5
You have to understand that the purpose of tournaments is not to play the best competition or to win some kind of championship but is to make money. I was told by a director at a large club that the reason that the Stonecrest complex would never happen is because it had no club affiliation. Clubs don't send teams to unaffiliated tournaments. Instead, it is horse trading--my club will send 30 teams to your tournament if you send 30 teams to my tournament. Look at pretty much any tournament and count the number of teams from a particular club and then compare that to how many teams the host club sends to that club's tournament later in the season. It is usually within a few teams of being the same number. I was aware of this, but I was not aware Stonecrest never happened. Granted I don't get out that way much, but I thought I heard there was are was going to be several completed fields by May of this year? Did that not happen? |
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Post by soccernotfootball on Aug 1, 2019 16:26:35 GMT -5
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Post by soccerball on Aug 1, 2019 16:47:05 GMT -5
Same tourneys every year, SSA, NASA, UFA, Disney, then SSA and UFA again.
We started taking a stand and stopped registering for many of them and then would opt for a different out of town one every year. They can't force you to play in a tournament, but they can not allow you to attend an out of town one etc. We pushed for more local scrimmages against teams and friendly's out of town that were a go an come back on the same day thing.
But unless they are footing the bill for the tourney, they can't force teams to attend.
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Post by mistergrinch on Aug 1, 2019 21:05:38 GMT -5
So let me get this straight.
Nobody likes seeing the same local teams over and over again.. realizing that you have to travel farther to get good competition from new teams..
Also...
Everyone complains about how much travel is involved in this sport... and why can't we find good competition locally.
Did I get that right?
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Post by soccerlegacy on Aug 2, 2019 10:29:25 GMT -5
I'm sure this is not a new subject, but I am frustrated that alliance clubs play in the other alliance clubs in tournaments. Clubs are just recycling money back into each other. We keep playing the same teams over and over. Just beyond frustrating. 3
Yes my child plays at an alliance club.
It is frustrating... and for those that don't know, it can be traced back to the roll-out of the SCCL. The smaller "alliance" clubs wanted to show their dissatisfaction by withholding their teams from the Big 5's tournaments. What's incredible and stupid is that it has continued this long... and with no end insight. What is sad is that they think they are making a difference and really putting it to the big clubs. I even have heard one DOC bragging about it. Meanwhile, the Big 5 are responding in kind, and the only teams coming to the "alliance" tourneys are a few small ones or they are having to play themselves (internally from multiple age groups), which ultimately means they are losing out on alot more money... but hey... as long as you "stick it" to the those big clubs, right? Plus, I know the Big 5 don't really even notice the difference. One of the last tournaments from the Big 5 had 600+ teams participating... does this particular small club really think witholding their 20-30 teams is having a detrimental impact to them??? So ultimately, the ones that are getting hurt are the kids, and all because the adults can't put aside their little grievances for the sake of the players. Pettiness and loss of power are the only things causing this issue now. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 2, 2019 10:53:19 GMT -5
I'm sure this is not a new subject, but I am frustrated that alliance clubs play in the other alliance clubs in tournaments. Clubs are just recycling money back into each other. We keep playing the same teams over and over. Just beyond frustrating. 3 Yes my child plays at an alliance club.
It is frustrating... and for those that don't know, it can be traced back to the roll-out of the SCCL. The smaller "alliance" clubs wanted to show their dissatisfaction by withholding their teams from the Big 5's tournaments. What's incredible and stupid is that it has continued this long... and with no end insight...... This has been a phenomenon that goes back years before sccl creation, almost as far back to when man coexisted on the planet with dinosaurs (for the creationists out there.....) UFA/Norcross and Concorde used to not do each other's tournaments than a truce was reached and balance was brought back to the universe. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 2, 2019 11:08:10 GMT -5
Who is in this "alliance"? Was Smyrna? If so, things don't bode well for the alliance against the Big 5 Empire...
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Post by ultimatedad on Aug 2, 2019 12:55:41 GMT -5
I think the "alliance" is the big five thqt have segmented themselves away from the competition.
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Post by ultimatedad on Aug 2, 2019 13:33:48 GMT -5
Did the SCCL teams travel to CO to play off i. The same division?
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Post by soccerlegacy on Aug 2, 2019 15:18:20 GMT -5
I think the "alliance" is the big five thqt have segmented themselves away from the competition. That was not what I was interpreting as the "alliance"... but I should have asked for that to be clarified. What I think the "alliance" was referring to was the Georgia Alliance FC teams... the small clubs alliance which was Impact, Inter, and what used to be Smyrna. That was what my comments were aimed at... They just cycle around to each others tournaments and don't attend any of the Big 5. What's worse is, they don't have different branches to change it up a bit... IT's literally the SAME 3 teams. At least the Big 5 have different branches so you are talking about having a total of at least 12+ teams that have a different roster. |
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Post by ultimatedad on Aug 3, 2019 6:44:15 GMT -5
Which tournement does Inter run?
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Post by ga3v3 on Aug 3, 2019 8:15:07 GMT -5
I’d suggest entering the Concorde tourneys in the summer and winter. They always have out of state teams and more register each year. If your team is in one of the top two brackets you’ll get to play some teams out of our area most likely. By far the best local tournament in my opinion
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Post by ultimatedad on Aug 3, 2019 13:20:14 GMT -5
My daughter plays on a smaller club and out of her last 18 games, she has had to play the same team 3 times. Interestingly all rematches were splits. It seems like this schedule is more diverse than one would find at the larger clubs. |
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Post by crazzzy4soccer on Aug 3, 2019 14:09:29 GMT -5
Concorde tournament? There are some teams in the upcoming tournament with only 2 games bc they don’t have enough teams. Too much $ for 2 games...
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Post by 4theloveofsoccer on Aug 3, 2019 14:25:00 GMT -5
Concorde tournament? There are some teams in the upcoming tournament with only 2 games bc they don’t have enough teams. Too much $ for 2 games... Concorde tournaments are the biggest draw locally for tournaments year in and year out. I would say UFA tournaments as well. Going on that note, if there are not enough teams in a division, tournament director/scheduler should combine divisions so that may not be the case. |
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Post by Keeper on Aug 3, 2019 15:58:46 GMT -5
Which tournement does Inter run? Inter Atlanta is now part of Publix Cup, otherwise they’ve never hosted their own tournament, just loaned fields out. |
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Post by Keeper on Aug 3, 2019 16:00:02 GMT -5
I’d suggest entering the Concorde tourneys in the summer and winter. They always have out of state teams and more register each year. If your team is in one of the top two brackets you’ll get to play some teams out of our area most likely. By far the best local tournament in my opinion Seriously? Most Concorde tournaments are rained out. Hell theyre use to be a saying “oh it’s raining? Guess Concorde is hosting another tournament!” |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 3, 2019 16:51:34 GMT -5
I’d suggest entering the Concorde tourneys in the summer and winter. They always have out of state teams and more register each year. If your team is in one of the top two brackets you’ll get to play some teams out of our area most likely. By far the best local tournament in my opinion Seriously? Most Concorde tournaments are rained out. Hell theyre use to be a saying “oh it’s raining? Guess Concorde is hosting another tournament!” I know it is a running joke, but we have not had that happen. Seems like every year the boys' February Concorde tournament gets rained out like it did last year. We got all of our games in the last few years |
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Post by ultimatedad on Aug 6, 2019 12:35:41 GMT -5
Yes the Concorde Fire T has always been rained out with no refund. Kirk Mellish was cusulted on most profitable weekend to run T.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Aug 6, 2019 21:00:15 GMT -5
Yes the Concorde Fire T has always been rained out with no refund. Kirk Mellish was cusulted on most profitable weekend to run T. When the weather is Hellish, depend on Mellish... |
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