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Post by hateallthesechanges on Oct 10, 2019 6:39:36 GMT -5
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Post by soccermonster on Oct 10, 2019 12:12:56 GMT -5
Based on the players that were called up from GA, FL and CA (the players I'm familiar with), it appears that a lot of them play up, so is that the key to being called up? CF wins the trophy again for being the club that has enough clout to get their players into the pool. I guess DA doesn't carry the weight as expected because 3 of the 4 girls from GA (including our Arizona player) were ECNL, not DA. HMMMMM I wonder how TH is explaining that to their DA parents.
............and the ECNL vs DA saga continues
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Post by hammertime on Oct 10, 2019 12:33:32 GMT -5
Based on the players that were called up from GA, FL and CA (the players I'm familiar with), it appears that a lot of them play up, so is that the key to being called up? CF wins the trophy again for being the club that has enough clout to get their players into the pool. I guess DA doesn't carry the weight as expected because 3 of the 4 girls from GA (including our Arizona player) were ECNL, not DA. HMMMMM I wonder how TH is explaining that to their DA parents. ............and the ECNL vs DA saga continues Not trying to start anything but since FKK keeper was first on the list I looked and Florida was one DA, one ECNL.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Oct 10, 2019 13:10:28 GMT -5
Looks like nearly 1/3 of the roster is ECNL.
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Post by justwatching on Oct 10, 2019 14:02:36 GMT -5
Looks like nearly 1/3 of the roster is ECNL. So is the other 2/3 all DA? If so...from what I counted ECNL has approximately 96 girls clubs versus 70 GDA. So ECNL is ~30% larger than GDA by total number of clubs. Obviously, ECNL has some great talent but the representation in this YNT setting seems disproportionately lower than GDA if only 1/3 of roster is ECNL (assuming the other 2/3 are DA).
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Post by justwatching on Oct 10, 2019 15:20:23 GMT -5
And actually it looks like there are more like 46 of 59 from DA, so almost 80%...makes the representation even worse based on the size of the player pools from the two leagues.
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Post by atv on Oct 10, 2019 15:31:21 GMT -5
Congrats! The one little player we know in the group is very technical and a heck of a soccer player. Well deserved!
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Post by fridge on Oct 10, 2019 15:41:12 GMT -5
USWNT at the youth ages is a borderline joke and equally nonsensical. I would first ask what is the point? Our college teams have been a great feeder league into the USWNT rosters. What's the point of having 15, 16, 17 and 18 year olds miss a week of school in October for example to train for a team that truly doesn't matter? Being on the national team at these ages will not qualify a kid for the U23 and above roster. If they are great in college, they will get an invite. If they peter out in college they won't. It's silly. (And Mal Pugh not going to college proves my point given she played virtually no minutes in this world cup.)
Second, every DA and ECNL coach I talk to explicitly will say the selection involves too much politics and questionable vetting. Yes, the USWNT staff does make some very good choices. However, I've had many coaches tell me, "if I were picking, I would not have sent the kid they selected." Likewise, I think we all know of a kid or two who was called up and the first thought was "Huh? She isn't even the best kid on our team let alone at a national level?" This game does require vision, good touches and quick play, but it also requires grit, heart, high work rate, tenacity, etc. It's not how many goals a kid has, but when are they scoring the goals? First goal? Go ahead goal? Winning goal? Or, the 4th, 5th and 6th goals in a 6 - 0 route? I think the vetting process is woefully lacking and they are not implementing any process to identify these other important skills. Just for a little proof look no further than the U18 woman's world cup in China. The team was great leading up to the world cup against the weak sister teams, but when they got punched in the mouth they crumbled bc, in my opinion, regardless of how many times they could juggle a ball or win in a 3 v 3 practice game, they didn't have the mentality to play from behind. So, don't be overly impressed if your kid gets called in and don't get too disappointed if your kid does not get called in.
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Post by atv on Oct 10, 2019 16:24:22 GMT -5
I’m still very impressed and I think it’s a big deal. Not my kid. However, this sort of changes my opinion on the selection process. Sometimes they actually get it right.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 10, 2019 16:53:51 GMT -5
Based on the players that were called up from GA, FL and CA (the players I'm familiar with), it appears that a lot of them play up, so is that the key to being called up? CF wins the trophy again for being the club that has enough clout to get their players into the pool. I guess DA doesn't carry the weight as expected because 3 of the 4 girls from GA (including our Arizona player) were ECNL, not DA. HMMMMM I wonder how TH is explaining that to their DA parents. ............and the ECNL vs DA saga continues The "ECNL" player from AZ who used to live in GA played up an age group for CF DA two years ago and SC del Sol DA last year. She has only played ECNL for two months. She is a great player, but don't use her selection to argue against DA. This is not her first look at a USGNT. She has been to their camps before as a DA player.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Oct 10, 2019 17:53:08 GMT -5
Keep in mind GDA was created to be the primary feeder to the USWNT. By that token, the fact you have 17 (or so from what I counted, I don't know all the clubs) players from ECNL clubs means that they're failing to convince a significant amount of the talent to buy into their system. The message is clear, they prefer players from their system, but you certainly don't NEED TO put up with the nonsense of DA to make a YNT.
JMO of course.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 10, 2019 21:36:04 GMT -5
Keep in mind GDA was created to be the primary feeder to the USWNT. By that token, the fact you have 17 (or so from what I counted, I don't know all the clubs) players from ECNL clubs means that they're failing to convince a significant amount of the talent to buy into their system. The message is clear, they prefer players from their system, but you certainly don't NEED TO put up with the nonsense of DA to make a YNT. JMO of course. The best of the best will get seen regardless of league. One of the best 04 girls played NPL until her club became a DA club this year. She committed to UNC some time ago (before the new rules). Many say she is better than Moultrie. She has been getting GNT call ups for some time. Another great player plays in Hawaii (no ECNL or DA there). Imagine the travel (ugh). You don't have to put up with the "nonsense" of any specific league...
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