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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Oct 26, 2019 9:03:05 GMT -5
A mixed bag for our local boys here in Winston-Salem. Overall the results have been slightly sub-par as far as my expectations. AU & NASA showing well. CF also, but ran into the freight train that is NYCFC in their second game yesterday. That is a very talented team that plays extremely well together - with no hyperbole, the best U13 team I’ve seen. 2 more games today, then the U14s start 2 days of play tomorrow. Good luck to all our Atlanta area boys!
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Post by atlsoccerdad on Oct 26, 2019 17:22:55 GMT -5
A mixed bag for our local boys here in Winston-Salem. Overall the results have been slightly sub-par as far as my expectations. AU & NASA showing well. CF also, but ran into the freight train that is NYCFC in their second game yesterday. That is a very talented team that plays extremely well together - with no hyperbole, the best U13 team I’ve seen. 2 more games today, then the U14s start 2 days of play tomorrow. Good luck to all our Atlanta area boys! Do you have a link to the standings / results? |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Oct 26, 2019 20:55:08 GMT -5
You can find the results on the US Soccer DA website.
Schedules; Boys Schedule; Schedule by Group, field select U13 South Atlantic; click Apply Filters; pages 2 & 3.
I don’t think there is a specific page for the showcase results.
ussoccerda.com
Today was not a great day for the Atlanta teams as far as results but it was great competition and probably good for them.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Oct 26, 2019 21:34:40 GMT -5
What is fascinating to me is this.
I’ve tweeted this a few times as well.
Given the millions of kids playing soccer in this country from Rec to academy and from npsl to MLS - you would think by sure damn luck we would be spitting out world class players just by chance alone!!
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Oct 27, 2019 21:17:48 GMT -5
We need more showcases, games and tournaments like these to gauge where we as a soccer region rate against our counterparts from around the country. Here are our collective results for the 7 teams representing the ATL region: AFC/AU/CF/LSA/NASA/SSA/UFA
5 Wins
3 Ties
19 Losses
Results from one game have not been posted yet.
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Post by rudy on Oct 27, 2019 21:35:21 GMT -5
Banner results! Wow.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Oct 28, 2019 5:42:47 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure AU lost their first game 1-2 to Cedar Stars Bergen and the score was reported incorrectly, so pending 1 result we stand at 5 wins, 2 ties, 20 losses. Good flashes but not sustained - mostly sloppy, disorganized, and a step slow.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Oct 28, 2019 6:03:52 GMT -5
20 losses, we just collectively have to do better. Hopefully, coaches and clubs identified changes and items they need to work on.
Meanwhile on the first day of the U14 showcase, with one result pending, here is our record so far:
2 Wins
2 Ties
2 Losses
I'm hearing due to weather, one game was cancelled for everyone yesterday. Hopefully they get both games in today.
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Post by soccernotfootball on Oct 28, 2019 7:29:53 GMT -5
AFC/AU/CF/LSA/NASA/SSA/UFA...
of those 7 clubs (at U13), not all teams are on the same level. Add to that, you split talent among clubs in the metro area. I think we'd see much different results if you had a talent pool that was pulled into just 1 or 2 clubs. (Which seems to be the case for a lot of the teams faced... our metro area has a lot of talent so in the showcase, we aren't exactly comparing apples-to-apples.)
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Post by datrain on Oct 28, 2019 7:56:23 GMT -5
We need more showcases, games and tournaments like these to gauge where we as a soccer region rate against our counterparts from around the country. Here are our collective results for the 7 teams representing the ATL region: AFC/AU/CF/LSA/NASA/SSA/UFA 5 Wins 3 Ties 19 Losses Results from one game have not been posted yet. I can speak to this a bit as my son played for DA for FC Westchester before moving down here. At the younger age groups specifically, the Northeast teams are more technical and more advanced especially as it pertains to foot skills. A lot of it has to do with lack of field space coupled with a hyperfocus thru U13 on individual footskills. Programs in the north simply do not have the field complexes that programs in Atlanta do. Physical practice space is very limited. As the kids go through adolescence, these advantages that the Northeast teams possess diminish because the kids in the South for whatever reason tend to be larger and more athletic. I can tell you point blank that many Northeast teams look like Keebler Elves vis-a-vis their southern opposition. My son talks about this all of the time. |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Oct 28, 2019 9:06:04 GMT -5
A couple of things:
1. The showcases do their best to match the teams apples-to-apples across the board. AU is not playing the same teams AFC is playing, etc.
2. With the exception of AU, there is extremely little practice space in Atlanta. The big clubs here have full boys and girls programs all trying to get space on flood plain fields that close if there is heavy fog. Practice held on 1/4 field is the norm, and on 1/6 field is not unusual. At U13 the boys are only now playing on the large fields, 11v11, while never practicing on them. It was very evident Friday & Saturday as they were being outplayed tactically - struggling with pass connections, heavy first touches trying to receive longer passes, little movement without the ball, poor spacing, too much chasing, poor/slow step to the ball, confused and hesitant on set plays.
I’m not laying all the blame for the poor showing on practice space because there was a lot of simple lack of hustle and slow decision making going on and it was obvious that some opponents were just technically superior. Hopefully it will be a learning experience and we’ll be better prepared for the next showcase.
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Post by datrain on Oct 28, 2019 9:18:27 GMT -5
I can only speak for NASA and they have abundant practice space
The park facilities here are also enormous.....Noonday, Quest, Franklin Gateway, Metro North for NASA alone....Fowler, etc for others. My feeling is that these programs have tons of fields relative to the Northeast. It's really not comparable
Compare this FC Westchester who has to share fields with baseball teams and lacrosse teams (youth and college) while practicing on a finite piece of land at SUNY Purchase.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Oct 28, 2019 9:32:33 GMT -5
Just haven’t had the same experience. NASA also has Kings Ridge, yet top team had postage stamp practice area many times. Same at CF. I’d love to know what clubs have adequate space. We haven’t seen it in 5 years with 2 kids on top teams at 2 big clubs. I do know that the lower level teams get the centrally located fields for practice because they just wouldn’t make the drive otherwise.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Oct 29, 2019 18:24:29 GMT -5
The U14s are finally back from the showcase. Here are our collective results for the 7 teams representing the ATL region: AFC/AU/CF/LSA/NASA/SSA/UFA
7 Wins
3 Ties
9 Losses
Results from two games have not been posted yet.
While I was looking up the scores and results, I noticed something in regards to CF results. Their last two results against AU and UFA are not listed. I know they were both losses but curious as to why they were not listed?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Oct 29, 2019 22:58:38 GMT -5
Not a fan of the 2x25 format. Games are way to short to get into any flow.
Just let the boys play 4 full games in 2 days and mandate they have the following weekend off. Oh and throw the kids a cool t shirt or something for missing a day of school.
(I know the 14s got to play 1 full game on Sunday)
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Post by onekickpop on Oct 31, 2019 11:52:37 GMT -5
Grouping wins/ties/losses in this fashion is not ideal. Not every team played at the same level. Example being, UFA, NASA, Concorde played MLS clubs whereas others did not. Also to note, some teams played on the key turf fields (high visibility) up front while others did not. This was likely done based on their regular season performance. Some squads allowed all of their kids to have equal time (player switch at 25 minutes) which gave everyone an equal opportunity to show whether they were winning or losing (back lines typically remained intact).
From what I heard and saw, US Soccer was looking to see how these teams played (playing out the back or punting, trying to our dribble 2-3 players, formation, etc) Hence the opportunities to play Philadelphia Union, Red Bull’s, NYCFC, all of which are EXCELLENT teams at the U13 age group. NYCFC is considered the best in the East with numerous shutouts at the MLS level and several “stars” considered high potential for National team call-ups when of age.
The general consensus is that most teams represented well. NASA abs NYCFC probably had 50+ spectators watching their game which is more than what was on the sidelines for the AU/Philadelphia Union game which Philly won fairly easily.
Overal it was a good showcase. They technically were not looking at the 13’s (US Soccer reps were everywhere taking notes though for next year!) and I think when considering the investment, cherry-picking and training for the pro MLS academies we were not that far off in some cases. NYCFC allegedly trained a full week for this event and stacked their team, and did not let up a single goal (I believe).
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Post by soccergurl on Oct 31, 2019 17:17:57 GMT -5
NYCFC is considered the best in the East with numerous shutouts at the MLS level and several “stars” considered high potential for National team call-ups when of age. NYCFC allegedly trained a full week for this event and stacked their team, and did not let up a single goal (I believe). Me thinks you are contradicting yourself |
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Post by soccerparent02 on Oct 31, 2019 17:26:17 GMT -5
Sounds like they didn't play well. May I ask how you know what everyone was looking for? Curious...did you ask?
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Post by onekickpop on Oct 31, 2019 18:50:08 GMT -5
No contradiction. Very good and well coached team from NYC.
A few beers with folks in the know can be beneficial at times... Also, this was mostly about having a look at the 14’s.
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Post by localsoccernovice on Nov 2, 2019 10:33:09 GMT -5
CF scored are & have been posted AU loss 2-4 and UFA tie 0-0 ? Question regarding showcase - any idea why U15 kids were allowed to be added to U14 DA teams ? The U14s are finally back from the showcase. Here are our collective results for the 7 teams representing the ATL region: AFC/AU/CF/LSA/NASA/SSA/UFA 7 Wins 3 Ties 9 Losses Results from two games have not been posted yet. While I was looking up the scores and results, I noticed something in regards to CF results. Their last two results against AU and UFA are not listed. I know they were both losses but curious as to why they were not listed? |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 2, 2019 13:39:24 GMT -5
CF scored are & have been posted AU loss 2-4 and UFA tie 0-0 ? Question regarding showcase - any idea why U15 kids were allowed to be added to U14 DA teams ? The U14s are finally back from the showcase. Here are our collective results for the 7 teams representing the ATL region: AFC/AU/CF/LSA/NASA/SSA/UFA 7 Wins 3 Ties 9 Losses Results from two games have not been posted yet. While I was looking up the scores and results, I noticed something in regards to CF results. Their last two results against AU and UFA are not listed. I know they were both losses but curious as to why they were not listed? I'm sorry, I was referring to the U15s, which now has the UFA game listed and of course it looks like CF won 1-0 when in fact UFA won 1 zip. Answer to your U15/U14 question : Bio-Banding... |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Nov 2, 2019 16:13:33 GMT -5
I think the rule is no more than two bio-banded players per team.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Nov 2, 2019 17:42:03 GMT -5
Do all CF DA age groups have problems reporting scores or is it just the one coached by the Cheesy Welsh Rarebit? Sorry, couldn’t resist.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Nov 2, 2019 18:59:12 GMT -5
Gameofthrow-ins you do have to add, especially when they looooose...😉😉
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Post by Brinker on Nov 4, 2019 14:19:11 GMT -5
We need more showcases, games and tournaments like these to gauge where we as a soccer region rate against our counterparts from around the country. Here are our collective results for the 7 teams representing the ATL region: AFC/AU/CF/LSA/NASA/SSA/UFA 5 Wins 3 Ties 19 Losses Results from one game have not been posted yet. NASA U13 DA was excellent in the showcase. 2 wins over excellent competition, 1 draw where they totally dominated the game, and then a loss against NYCFC which is considered by many to be the best U13 team in the country. Unfortunately the rest of Atlanta did not perform as well. |
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Post by Brinker on Nov 4, 2019 14:32:11 GMT -5
The general consensus is that most teams represented well. NASA abs NYCFC probably had 50+ spectators watching their game which is more than what was on the sidelines for the AU/Philadelphia Union game which Philly won fairly easily. I can confirm that the NASA vs NYCFC U13 game was the most watched game at U13. It was on the front field, the US soccer coaches were watching, multiple teams and coaches also came to watch it. NASA performed very well especially in the first half where the game was very even. They let up a couple goals in the second half. |
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