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Post by Soccerhouse on Dec 9, 2019 9:05:01 GMT -5
Who watched the game last night?
First 25 minutes was U G L Y! Stanford was doing everything they could to play soccer but UNC style was too disruptive.
I didn't watch other games before one of UNCs players got hurt, but man, I really don't care for that style of playing with reckless abandon and really looking to go in very very hard on every tackle. They take physicality to another level. Interestingly, in the 2nd half, when they put their starters back in after the 6 man sub, they started to play some nice soccer -- showing they can do it. When UNC took out the freshman Cox, they replaced her with #15 who just ran around chasing the ball like a crazy person -- full speed non stop, not sure if she touched the ball. The freshman Cox has some serious size at 5'10' - and can just flat our run by people -- not a surprise when you look at her bio -- her mom was a track athelete in college and her father played college ball. Rachel Jones the local player didn't really ever seem to find her groove. They were most dangerous when their center backs started to push forward,
Stanford was class -- really liked what they were doing, just couldn't ever finish and their striker ran out of gas.
Sophia Smith is nasty, local product Briede did well and played a good amount of minutes. Love the attitude of the keeper Meyer, she got a lot of grief on twitter for her behavior in the semi finals after her PK save, but man -- Love having a cocky keeper who backs it up!!
Felt like Stanford out played them for most of the game, but you got the sense that UNC might just sneak one in on transition.
Ended the way it should have, with Meyer coming up huge and Stanford burying the final PK.
Overall -- fun game to watch
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Post by girlsoccer on Dec 9, 2019 9:45:36 GMT -5
I watched and enjoyed the game- esp the second half and OT. I hate pk’s for everyone involved! But agree that Stanford should have won the game. I didn’t care for the Stanford keeper staring down the camera and such, but she did a great job on the field. Fun game!
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Post by Soccerhouse on Dec 9, 2019 9:51:22 GMT -5
Ha loved it! Absolutely loved it!
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Dec 9, 2019 11:02:57 GMT -5
I am just a soccer mom that didn't play much myself and certainly don't claim to be an expert. But I watched the game and had the same exact critique as Soccerhouse. I am so proud of myself! Ha ha. I did not care for the keeper though.
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Post by fridge on Dec 9, 2019 11:36:33 GMT -5
I also agree w/ the analysis. I've seen UNC play alot. They usually play "pretty soccer." They have a deep bench and do a 7 woman substitution at around the 25th minute and then in the 2nd half for 10 minutes. Because they are so deep, they play very high pressure.
Apparently, UNC decided it couldn't hang w Stanford and game planned for more of a rugby style game. I was a bit surprised. They were missing Foxx who is one of their all-world players.
I am continually astounded by the NCAA rule that allows a 2nd half starter to leave the game and come back in. That's crazy and allows a team like UNC to play high press soccer 100% of the time. It gives them a great advantage given UNC's depth -- there really is no drop off between the 1st and 2nd wave. I'd like to see how UNC would play if the sub rule was changed. (No criticism, UNC is playing by the rules.)
My thought for other teams that are not deep in soccer talent---they should recruit the fastest/most athletic kids out there and give them the last 10 and first 10 minutes of the halves. Let them chase down and tire out the defenders so the strarters play 60 minutes against 90 minuted defenders. I don't see it done that often.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Dec 9, 2019 11:37:31 GMT -5
Who watched the game last night? 🙋♀ Me, 🙋♀ Me, 🙋♀ Me, 🙋♀Me ... |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 9, 2019 12:36:04 GMT -5
I watched the game and have watched several UNC games this season (we know a kid on the team). They usually play very pretty soccer and Jones normally looks very slick. Many of the players look slick. Emily Fox was a HUGE loss for this game and would have changed the game IMHO. They had to use a player as the right back that NEVER plays defense and she is normally a big part of their attack at left wing. She had to mark Sophia Smith. I agree with OP who said that their 7 women substitutes have really no drop off in most games. I agree with Soccerhouse that there was a drop off in this game.
I really did not like the Stanford keeper's antics and if you saw UCLA semifinal game she got in the face of a UCLA player and was brash and obnoxious there and had to be held back by her teammates. I don't care for that behavior...I believe that you need to respect your competition and behave with that in mind. I don't have an issue with some friendly banter, but hers goes beyond that. Her behavior in the UCLA was much worse and may have predisposed me to feel more strongly about her camera antics in this game.
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Post by rifle on Dec 9, 2019 20:24:23 GMT -5
College soccer to me looks a lot like a track meet. Taking advantage of the NCAA un-soccer sub rule for high high pressure sounds exactly like the playing style that won Stanford Cardinal men’s team back to back to back national championships. I think it is a piss poor way to prepare a player for the next level... but it’s definitely effective.
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Post by olderthandirt on Dec 9, 2019 20:43:22 GMT -5
I think it is a piss poor way to prepare a player for the next level... but it’s definitely effective. Why would you think that the college coach even considers preparing his/her players for the next level? Their goal is to win. Period. And wherever tactic that is within the rules that helps them achieve that goal will be utilized. |
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Post by 4theloveofsoccer on Dec 10, 2019 15:15:12 GMT -5
College soccer to me looks a lot like a track meet. Taking advantage of the NCAA un-soccer sub rule for high high pressure sounds exactly like the playing style that won Stanford Cardinal men’s team back to back to back national championships. I think it is a piss poor way to prepare a player for the next level... but it’s definitely effective. One college soccer game I saw on television at the last 2-3 minutes the winning team all they did was one touch it down the field or out of bounds. What was more annoying was the announcer doing the count down as well with the visible clock on the field. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Dec 10, 2019 15:29:11 GMT -5
Next level? "Playoffs? Playoffs?"
You mean for the 3-4 players on the field that might play at the next level at the expense of the other 40 players on the field (on the girls side, maybe 6-7 on the men's side because there's the USL option)? College soccer IS the final level for 99% of the players who play it...who will move on to normal careers after the college days are done.
I don't mind the running-up clock in real soccer, but is soccer the only timed sport where where the length of the game is at the discretion of the referee?
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Post by soccergurl on Dec 10, 2019 17:27:53 GMT -5
College soccer to me looks a lot like a track meet. Taking advantage of the NCAA un-soccer sub rule for high high pressure sounds exactly like the playing style that won Stanford Cardinal men’s team back to back to back national championships. I think it is a piss poor way to prepare a player for the next level... but it’s definitely effective. One college soccer game I saw on television at the last 2-3 minutes the winning team all they did was one touch it down the field or out of bounds. What was more annoying was the announcer doing the count down as well with the visible clock on the field. Opponents should hustle and r'member some have a loss of eyes but perfect ears to hear countdown |
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Post by rifle on Dec 10, 2019 17:38:20 GMT -5
I think it is a piss poor way to prepare a player for the next level... but it’s definitely effective. Why would you think that the college coach even considers preparing his/her players for the next level? Their goal is to win. Period. And wherever tactic that is within the rules that helps them achieve that goal will be utilized. Good point! It is a different player population.. with a diminishing number each year proving to be the exception. I stand (sit actually) corrected. |
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Post by footyfan on Dec 11, 2019 8:32:08 GMT -5
Why would you think that the college coach even considers preparing his/her players for the next level? Their goal is to win. Period. And wherever tactic that is within the rules that helps them achieve that goal will be utilized. Good point! It is a different player population.. with a diminishing number each year proving to be the exception. I stand (sit actually) corrected. Should we apply the same logic apply to high school? Be happy with win-first mentality since most won't play college? I don't have an answer, just wondering. |
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Post by girlsoccer on Dec 11, 2019 9:10:26 GMT -5
Good point! It is a different player population.. with a diminishing number each year proving to be the exception. I stand (sit actually) corrected. Should we apply the same logic apply to high school? Be happy with win-first mentality since most won't play college? I don't have an answer, just wondering. Yes. A high school coach’s job is to win games. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Dec 11, 2019 10:25:32 GMT -5
Next level? "Playoffs? Playoffs?" You mean for the 3-4 players on the field that might play at the next level at the expense of the other 40 players on the field (on the girls side, maybe 6-7 on the men's side because there's the USL option)? College soccer IS the final level for 99% of the players who play it...who will move on to normal careers after the college days are done. I don't mind the running-up clock in real soccer, but is soccer the only timed sport where where the length of the game is at the discretion of the referee? Spot on. This is the next level.
Also, yes.. I believe soccer is the only sport where the ref can add time. I can't think of another.
Someone pointed out to me that the reason that the clock counts DOWN is because old scoreboards (meant for football) could only work that way. Set to a time, and count backwards to 0.
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