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Post by oraclesfriend on May 4, 2021 16:46:00 GMT -5
This is my question...why do we have only two clubs that have officially announced their coaches and really only the ECNL and ECRL coaches???
If they are going to open recruiting May 1st for clubs why are they not giving out the information more expeditiously? I know my one child is losing the coach, but don't know who is replacing the coach yet. I don't know who the coaches are for her age group at any other club (except one who I ran into this past weekend and asked me to bring her to their tryout).
As for the older kid still waiting to hear who all the coaches are at her club (though we have been told by two sources who her coach will be it has not been announced).
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Post by mightydawg on May 4, 2021 16:50:26 GMT -5
This is my question...why do we have only two clubs that have officially announced their coaches and really only the ECNL and ECRL coaches??? If they are going to open recruiting May 1st for clubs why are they not giving out the information more expeditiously? I know my one child is losing the coach, but don't know who is replacing the coach yet. I don't know who the coaches are for her age group at any other club (except one who I ran into this past weekend and asked me to bring her to their tryout). As for the older kid still waiting to hear who all the coaches are at her club (though we have been told by two sources who her coach will be it has not been announced). Agreed. One would have thought that this information would have been released this past weekend with all of the ID camps going on. |
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Post by justhappytobehere on May 4, 2021 16:53:57 GMT -5
NTH NASA ECNL ID Sessions
U13-U19: Date 5/19
Age Birth Year Level Time Location
U13 2009 ECNL 7:30 PM Metro Park #4
U14 2008 ECNL 7:00 PM Metro Park #3
U15 2007 ECNL 8:00 PM Terrell Mill
U16 2006 ECNL 5:30 PM Metro Park #3
U17 2005 ECNL 6:30 PM Terrell Mill
U19 2004/2003 ECNL 5:00 PM Terrell Mill
Metro Park - 4645 Paper Mill road SE, Marietta 30067
Terrell Mill Park - 480 Terrell Mill road SE, Marietta 30067
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Post by datrain on May 4, 2021 17:59:48 GMT -5
Is there a signup for this? Are current players invited or just players from outside the program??
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 4, 2021 18:46:45 GMT -5
The information that I was told on Saturday for 2007s (rising U15) is Ken would coach Platinum and Sukhi would be coaching Premier. Concorde is notorious for assignments changing. I have seen coaching assignments change from May development camp to tryouts, during tryouts, and on at least one occasion after the team was fully registered. What are you hearing? How are the 07 parents feeling about this, are players looking for a move or happy with the coaching choice? Current Platinum coach has been with 07 boys since DA so it's probably time to be cycled off. I would imagine parents are good to hear Ken is taking them but really don't know... I have heard parents really like Sukhi so if he's on, I think they'd be happy. If off, who knows. |
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Post by NotherSoccerParent on May 5, 2021 7:36:30 GMT -5
Is there a signup for this? Are current players invited or just players from outside the program?? Go here and register your child. www.nasatophat.com/Default.aspx?tabid=179484&returnurl=%2fDefault.aspx%3ftabid%3d179484 Once you do that, you should see what programs are available, one of which will be the ID session. ID sessions are for both current players and kids from other programs. I assume that current ECNL players are expected to be there but it just popped up yesterday and we have not been told anything about whether we should be attending. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 5, 2021 10:43:26 GMT -5
Anyone hear word of Concorde 03/04 Boys ECNL and ECRL coaches? I hear CF doesnt post their coaching assignments. A coach talked to and was interested in my son at the ECNL ID Camp but im not sure what team hes coaching and don't want to make any promises yet.  Only way to find out Concorde coaches it to email/talk to Ken and ask or talk to someone that has. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 5, 2021 11:03:28 GMT -5
Only way to find out Concorde coaches it to email/talk to Ken and ask or talk to someone that has. Thanks, any idea why Concorde is the only club not to post? No, not officially. I think that it is a general sense of arrogance that kids come to Concorde because it is Concorde and it really does not matter who the coach is. Alternatively, it is because Concorde is not sufficiently organized to produce a list of coaches because it can often change. With that being said, I don't see where many clubs have released their coaches at this point. I have not seen anything from NTH, AFU, SSA, Roswell, Ambush. UFA and GSA have posted ECNL and ECRL coaches but not a full line up. |
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Post by diamondmid on May 5, 2021 11:13:34 GMT -5
Does anyone know Kyle? I hear he may be involved in the 07 or 08 boys group next year. Don’t know a Kyle currently there. Anyone hear of an incoming coach or hear of a coach leaving another club? |
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Post by coffee on May 5, 2021 18:48:39 GMT -5
Does anyone know Kyle? I hear he may be involved in the 07 or 08 boys group next year. Don’t know a Kyle currently there. Anyone hear of an incoming coach or hear of a coach leaving another club? Rush had a girls coach named Kyle Hodge back when we were there. I don’t believe he’s at that club still. |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 5, 2021 19:33:52 GMT -5
Probably thinking of Karl not Kyle. Well respected coach, been there a long time.
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Post by sailingaway on May 5, 2021 19:57:12 GMT -5
Don’t know a Kyle currently there. Anyone hear of an incoming coach or hear of a coach leaving another club? Rush had a girls coach named Kyle Hodge back when we were there. I don’t believe he’s at that club still. Correct. Kyle Hodge is at Santos now. Really good with younger age groups. Nice guy. |
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Post by diamondmid on May 5, 2021 20:37:38 GMT -5
Rush had a girls coach named Kyle Hodge back when we were there. I don’t believe he’s at that club still. Correct. Kyle Hodge is at Santos now. Really good with younger age groups. Nice guy. Is he leaving Santos for Concorde? |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 6, 2021 12:42:11 GMT -5
This is my question...why do we have only two clubs that have officially announced their coaches and really only the ECNL and ECRL coaches??? You bring up a very good point. I honestly don't get the logic of not posting coaches and leaving the rumor mill to dictate who may or may not be the coach. How do you vet these coaches, go watch them coach, talk to their current team parents to find out if they will in fact be a good fit for lil Susie or Johnny. I guess it's to add another layer of frustration to an already stressful period... |
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 6, 2021 13:29:42 GMT -5
Same reason most kids aren't told their status until they don't get the call after the 3rd night of tryouts.
Every single player this week should know
a) i'll be 100% invited back to the team and offered a spot
b) i'm a mid roster player, but baring a swarm of 10 new studs showing up, i'll be back on the team
c) regardless of what happens from now until day 3 of tryouts -- i will not be offered a spot back on the team and will either play on the team below or should look for other opportunities.
humans have mouths, use them to communicate with the players please!!! Honesty is the best policy, tell them what they need to hear, not what they want to hear.
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Post by mightydawg on May 6, 2021 13:45:29 GMT -5
Same reason most kids aren't told their status until they don't get the call after the 3rd night of tryouts. Every single player this week should know a) i'll be 100% invited back to the team and offered a spot b) i'm a mid roster player, but baring a swarm of 10 new studs showing up, i'll be back on the team c) regardless of what happens from now until day 3 of tryouts -- i will not be offered a spot back on the team and will either play on the team below or should look for other opportunities. humans have mouths, use them to communicate with the players please!!! Honesty is the best policy, tell them what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. but...but...but if I am honest with Johnny or Susie and they leave, the club will make less money. If I string them along, they will be trapped on a lower team and the club makes more money. --conflicted soccer coach |
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Post by SoccerFirst on May 6, 2021 19:18:55 GMT -5
I might be stating the obvious but if the coaching lists haven't been posted it's because they aren't completed yet. This could mean DOCs are waiting to hear back from coaches on what they were offered, or when the DOC went to offer a current coach a team, the coach said thanks, but no thanks. Clubs have to recruit their own players and coaches. The clubs get nothing positive out of waiting, just a whole lot of emails and questions.
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Post by ecnlquestions on May 6, 2021 19:24:57 GMT -5
I might be stating the obvious but if the coaching lists haven't been posted it's because they aren't completed yet. This could mean DOCs are waiting to hear back from coaches on what they were offered, or when the DOC went to offer a current coach a team, the coach said thanks, but no thanks. Clubs have to recruit their own players and coaches. The clubs get nothing positive out of waiting, just a whole lot of emails and questions. This is very true. UFA and GSA seem to have a similar line up of coaches to last season. The fact that other clubs are waiting may indicate several changes to the coaching assignments that we saw last year. It would be nice to get an idea soon so we can get some thoughts on the line up. Not much said on UFA and GSA coaches but it seems a solid group. |
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Post by SoccerFirst on May 6, 2021 19:43:36 GMT -5
This is my question...why do we have only two clubs that have officially announced their coaches and really only the ECNL and ECRL coaches??? You bring up a very good point. I honestly don't get the logic of not posting coaches and leaving the rumor mill to dictate who may or may not be the coach. How do you vet these coaches, go watch them coach, talk to their current team parents to find out if they will in fact be a good fit for lil Susie or Johnny. I guess it's to add another layer of frustration to an already stressful period... Well, I can't speak for any club besides AFU, because I haven't coached for anyone else... AFU rarely vets their own coaches, much less worry about whether or not the parents/players can vet them. Most coaches are hired based on referral from a common acquaintance, it's all about who you know. Just a side note: I coached at AFU for years, under multiple DOCs and never received feedback, formal or informal from the directors. |
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Post by bogan on May 6, 2021 19:53:25 GMT -5
You bring up a very good point. I honestly don't get the logic of not posting coaches and leaving the rumor mill to dictate who may or may not be the coach. How do you vet these coaches, go watch them coach, talk to their current team parents to find out if they will in fact be a good fit for lil Susie or Johnny. I guess it's to add another layer of frustration to an already stressful period... Well, I can't speak for any club besides AFU, because I haven't coached for anyone else... AFU rarely vets their own coaches, much less worry about whether or not the parents/players can vet them. Most coaches are hired based on referral from a common acquaintance, it's all about who you know. Just a side note: I coached at AFU for years, under multiple DOCs and never received feedback, formal or informal from the directors. I think that’s true at many clubs… |
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 6, 2021 20:22:55 GMT -5
Same reason most kids aren't told their status until they don't get the call after the 3rd night of tryouts. Every single player this week should know a) i'll be 100% invited back to the team and offered a spot b) i'm a mid roster player, but baring a swarm of 10 new studs showing up, i'll be back on the team c) regardless of what happens from now until day 3 of tryouts -- i will not be offered a spot back on the team and will either play on the team below or should look for other opportunities. humans have mouths, use them to communicate with the players please!!! Honesty is the best policy, tell them what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. So, my daughter went to club practice tonight and instead of her usual coach, we had the coach that will be taking over the team next year. Not a big deal on that though as we already knew ahead of time this would be the case. Another change is the training session wasn't just our team. There were players there from lower teams, as well as from outside the club. From what my daughter told me, there were 25 or 26 players in attendance and all they did was scrimmage 11v11. As for the girls knowing where they stand going into next year, I found one comment from tonight very interesting. The coach flat out told all the players, "nobody here is safe". My guess is nobody there will have a solid idea of where they will be offered for next year until after the last night of tryouts. |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 6, 2021 21:25:05 GMT -5
Same reason most kids aren't told their status until they don't get the call after the 3rd night of tryouts. Every single player this week should know a) i'll be 100% invited back to the team and offered a spot b) i'm a mid roster player, but baring a swarm of 10 new studs showing up, i'll be back on the team c) regardless of what happens from now until day 3 of tryouts -- i will not be offered a spot back on the team and will either play on the team below or should look for other opportunities. humans have mouths, use them to communicate with the players please!!! Honesty is the best policy, tell them what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. So, my daughter went to club practice tonight and instead of her usual coach, we had the coach that will be taking over the team next year. Not a big deal on that though as we already knew ahead of time this would be the case. Another change is the training session wasn't just our team. There were players there from lower teams, as well as from outside the club. From what my daughter told me, there were 25 or 26 players in attendance and all they did was scrimmage 11v11. As for the girls knowing where they stand going into next year, I found one comment from tonight very interesting. The coach flat out told all the players, "nobody here is safe". My guess is nobody there will have a solid idea of where they will be offered for next year until after the last night of tryouts. You do realize the “no one here is safe” is just thrown around to keep players engaged and motivated. I’m sure at every club, gender and age group you can look up and down the roster and have a few “safe” players. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 6, 2021 21:29:18 GMT -5
Same reason most kids aren't told their status until they don't get the call after the 3rd night of tryouts. Every single player this week should know a) i'll be 100% invited back to the team and offered a spot b) i'm a mid roster player, but baring a swarm of 10 new studs showing up, i'll be back on the team c) regardless of what happens from now until day 3 of tryouts -- i will not be offered a spot back on the team and will either play on the team below or should look for other opportunities. humans have mouths, use them to communicate with the players please!!! Honesty is the best policy, tell them what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. So, my daughter went to club practice tonight and instead of her usual coach, we had the coach that will be taking over the team next year. Not a big deal on that though as we already knew ahead of time this would be the case. Another change is the training session wasn't just our team. There were players there from lower teams, as well as from outside the club. From what my daughter told me, there were 25 or 26 players in attendance and all they did was scrimmage 11v11. As for the girls knowing where they stand going into next year, I found one comment from tonight very interesting. The coach flat out told all the players, "nobody here is safe". My guess is nobody there will have a solid idea of where they will be offered for next year until after the last night of tryouts. Curious as to what club and age group. If you don't feel comfortable saying both that is fine. I have heard coaches tell players that before but rarely have seen that actually happen. The biggest turnovers I have seen (coach decided) were going into U13 Girls ECNL and going into U14 girls DA. After that it seems to be 4 or fewer that get cut from top teams. Most of the time only one or two. I am anxious to see the academy coaches. My older one nearly 100% has the same coach even though he has not said so yet...the other coaches have said he has the team so we are going to have to believe them until official announcement. |
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Post by roki12 on May 7, 2021 5:44:57 GMT -5
Same reason most kids aren't told their status until they don't get the call after the 3rd night of tryouts. Every single player this week should know a) i'll be 100% invited back to the team and offered a spot b) i'm a mid roster player, but baring a swarm of 10 new studs showing up, i'll be back on the team c) regardless of what happens from now until day 3 of tryouts -- i will not be offered a spot back on the team and will either play on the team below or should look for other opportunities. humans have mouths, use them to communicate with the players please!!! Honesty is the best policy, tell them what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. So, my daughter went to club practice tonight and instead of her usual coach, we had the coach that will be taking over the team next year. Not a big deal on that though as we already knew ahead of time this would be the case. Another change is the training session wasn't just our team. There were players there from lower teams, as well as from outside the club. From what my daughter told me, there were 25 or 26 players in attendance and all they did was scrimmage 11v11. As for the girls knowing where they stand going into next year, I found one comment from tonight very interesting. The coach flat out told all the players, "nobody here is safe". My guess is nobody there will have a solid idea of where they will be offered for next year until after the last night of tryouts. The only ones who aren’t “safe” are the ones who the coach hasn’t already offered or already confirmed that they have a spot for next year. I have also seen many players joining practice for other teams and clubs and it will be this way through tryouts. As someone mentioned before, there are very few spots left by the time tryouts come around. |
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Post by justhappytobehere on May 7, 2021 6:38:39 GMT -5
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Post by datrain on May 7, 2021 7:13:38 GMT -5
NASA made changes at 2007 and 2008
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 7, 2021 7:18:07 GMT -5
Gailey used to coach one of the DA teams, does he no longer coach teams?
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 7, 2021 7:18:24 GMT -5
So happy to see someone put out their whole line up for select! Hopefully that means today will be the day everyone starts posting every age group! After all, academy tryouts are just over two weeks away! |
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Post by papasmurf on May 7, 2021 7:31:56 GMT -5
Gailey used to coach one of the DA teams, does he no longer coach teams? When the majority of a team complains to mgmt and threatens to leave, seems like a well deserved demotion condolences to the academy boys he will coach going forward |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 7, 2021 8:16:10 GMT -5
You bring up a very good point. I honestly don't get the logic of not posting coaches and leaving the rumor mill to dictate who may or may not be the coach. How do you vet these coaches, go watch them coach, talk to their current team parents to find out if they will in fact be a good fit for lil Susie or Johnny. I guess it's to add another layer of frustration to an already stressful period... Well, I can't speak for any club besides AFU, because I haven't coached for anyone else... AFU rarely vets their own coaches, much less worry about whether or not the parents/players can vet them. Most coaches are hired based on referral from a common acquaintance, it's all about who you know. Just a side note: I coached at AFU for years, under multiple DOCs and never received feedback, formal or informal from the directors. Thanks for sharing. This is good insight for parents and families to know as they decide on where and who to coach their kids... |
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