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AFU?
Jun 14, 2023 11:49:09 GMT -5
Post by futdad on Jun 14, 2023 11:49:09 GMT -5
Overall Pros and Cons as a club? (fees, coaches, rain cancellations, organization & communication, parents)
any particular insights on rising Boys U14?
Thanks!
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AFU?
Jun 14, 2023 17:37:28 GMT -5
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 14, 2023 17:37:28 GMT -5
Will be curious to see the replies...
I encourage you to check out the ECNL standings for the last 3 to 5 years. This may provide a lot of information you seek.
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AFU?
Jun 15, 2023 9:44:08 GMT -5
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jun 15, 2023 9:44:08 GMT -5
Since nobody else has replied, I will give it a shot. Had a daughter there for 2 years so really can't comment on boys coaches much, but they have many teams per age group and play in multiple leagues(SCCL, E-64, ECNL) so depending on the age group they can have maybe 3-6 teams assuming they have to fill at least one for SCCL, 1 each for ECNL-R and ECNL with E-64 being a composite team or maybe its own(I honestly have no idea how that shakes out).
AFU fees IMO are a little more reasonable(Ha!) since they do not charge out of county fees like some other local clubs. Never had a problem with club communication, and the parents being on both sides were not as obnoxious as some others. They play games on both turf and grass, depending on the level of play. Grass at SHP, George Pierce, Bunton and one field at Pinecrest while turf at Notre Dame and Pinecrest. The grass fields will close with a decent amount of rain(For example yesterday SHP, GP and Bunton closed).
hth
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AFU?
Jun 15, 2023 11:31:06 GMT -5
Post by futdad on Jun 15, 2023 11:31:06 GMT -5
Thanks! What happens when it rains for teams who regularly practice at Scott Hudgens? Any turf alternatives on same day?
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AFU?
Jun 15, 2023 11:38:53 GMT -5
Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 15, 2023 11:38:53 GMT -5
Thanks! What happens when it rains for teams who regularly practice at Scott Hudgens? Any turf alternatives on same day? Never been a fan of the parking at Scott Hudgens. I don't have first hand knowledge if this will be true going forward, but my neighbor had kids at AFU last year and she says they use the Notre Dame Academy turf fields and the Pinecrest Academy turf fields for rain-outs...
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AFU?
Jun 15, 2023 12:09:11 GMT -5
Post by atlchiefs on Jun 15, 2023 12:09:11 GMT -5
Correct, AFU uses the turf fields as FG noted above. Plus, the teams go indoor to one of several accessible gyms, they go to the silverbacks facility, they watch game films, or they reschedule for another day. Most coaches make certain to get the training in somehow. Every team and coach manages closed grass fields differently.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 15, 2023 16:44:19 GMT -5
Correct, AFU uses the turf fields as FG noted above. Plus, the teams go indoor to one of several accessible gyms, they go to the silverbacks facility, they watch game films, or they reschedule for another day. Most coaches make certain to get the training in somehow. Every team and coach manages closed grass fields differently. It was rare for us to get another location last year during rain outs. Top teams have first dibs on the turf fields. Younger teams have futsal options. Our coach had film work during rain outs. He would chose an instructional video or one of our game films and ask questions of the players that they would have to turn in to him. We also are not fans of that location for parking though we never were unable to get a spot. It is just dangerous as many people don’t let people back out easily. Like you could be halfway out of a spot and then someone comes flying down the lot. Plus some kids and parents are not careful where they are walking. Last year fees were very reasonable for us especially since tournaments are included. This year the fees went up A LOT! We are apparently getting another showcase than we got last year. We are also rising U14. Personally I am ok with the higher cost with the added showcase but I know many of our families were not. They don’t see the benefit in that given they are still under high school age. I think they need more games because there is still a lot of tactics to be learned in this transition to 11v11. Last year it seemed like we were still getting the hang of it at the end of the season. I did like how the team camp was managed with it culminating in scrimmages within the club. We also scrimmaged the team one level higher than we were many times during the season as well as the team one age older and one age younger. That was very helpful. Someone said look at the record of the teams in ECNL but this doesn’t bother me at all. I care if my kid and the team are improving and developing, not how many times we lost one goal games or drew people we should have beaten. Of course it is more fun to win and you need to make sure they have some success over the years, but they put plenty of players in college (if that is your player’s goal) and they have many kids that get very strong and move to other stronger clubs later. I have only had girl children but AFU is getting stronger in ECNL this year and I feel like they will keep getting better as I know kids who left “better” clubs to come to AFU ECNL in our age group.
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AFU?
Jun 15, 2023 17:53:41 GMT -5
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Post by steamers on Jun 15, 2023 17:53:41 GMT -5
Communication from the club has been good. The club is good at using social media to promote itself, teams, and players.
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AFU?
Jun 16, 2023 10:01:02 GMT -5
Post by futdad on Jun 16, 2023 10:01:02 GMT -5
Great info, thank you, will keep reading if more post!
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AFU?
Jun 16, 2023 11:30:42 GMT -5
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Post by newposter on Jun 16, 2023 11:30:42 GMT -5
If you aren't winning, chances are you aren't getting better. Again, wins and losses across multiple age groups indicates player and team growth. Speaking from experience, college coaches go watch the teams who "win". That is a fact. Good luck!
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Post by atlchiefs on Jun 16, 2023 13:13:37 GMT -5
If you aren't winning, chances are you aren't getting better. Again, wins and losses across multiple age groups indicates player and team growth. Speaking from experience, college coaches go watch the teams who "win". That is a fact. Good luck! Counter point, if most players are not playing with and against stronger competition at higher levels, then they don't improve as quickly. If a team wins all of its games, then where is the development? Why do the same forumites here consistently agree that your player should play at the highest levels so they can to improve? Otherwise, all players would simply play rec and win every game and thus 'get better'. In terms of specific competitiveness at AFU within ECNL and -R, no other club has seen the growth in winning percentages that AFU has seen, maybe because they started off the pace. AFU is quickly catching and surpassing, in some cases, GSA and UFA. From my experience, helping players into many collegiate programs through the years, college coaches look at multiple competitive levels for all kinds of players, winning or losing. Character, Discipline, Heart, and Academics play as much of a role in recruiting as technique and tactics.
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AFU?
Jun 16, 2023 15:08:48 GMT -5
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 16, 2023 15:08:48 GMT -5
I would argue the top teams do develop. They consistently play against the best at pracrice. This translates onto the field. little or no development occurs during games. This happens at practice, camps and individual training sessions not games. Again, say what you will. The BEST teams draw the most interest. Also been there, done that and seen it.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 16, 2023 16:24:37 GMT -5
I would argue the top teams do develop. They consistently play against the best at pracrice. This translates onto the field. little or no development occurs during games. This happens at practice, camps and individual training sessions not games. Again, say what you will. The BEST teams draw the most interest. Also been there, done that and seen it. The poster is asking about rising U14. This is a rising 7th or 8th grader. The boy is not even done with puberty and may not have even started. No hurry to be on the BEST team or to be drawing interest. Too many people are in a rush. The times when my older child developed the most it was due to time spent training on their own and with a club coach who was patient.
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AFU?
Jun 16, 2023 16:44:39 GMT -5
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 16, 2023 16:44:39 GMT -5
Whether anyone wants to admit it, players develop when surrounded and train with the best. This includes the best players, best players and best teams. This is in every sport not just soccer. Go to a showcase and watch where the coaches go to scout. They go to the TOP teams because that is where the BEST play. I will end with this. By u14/u15, the very best players (top 50) will have mostly have gone to the very top clubs and the very top teams. The coaches know who these players are and so do the players.
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AFU?
Jun 16, 2023 20:58:16 GMT -5
Post by futdad on Jun 16, 2023 20:58:16 GMT -5
I would argue the top teams do develop. They consistently play against the best at pracrice. This translates onto the field. little or no development occurs during games. This happens at practice, camps and individual training sessions not games. Again, say what you will. The BEST teams draw the most interest. Also been there, done that and seen it. The poster is asking about rising U14. This is a rising 7th or 8th grader. The boy is not even done with puberty and may not have even started. No hurry to be on the BEST team or to be drawing interest. Too many people are in a rush. The times when my older child developed the most it was due to time spent training on their own and with a club coach who was patient. Yes thanks lol!
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AFU?
Jun 16, 2023 22:04:31 GMT -5
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 16, 2023 22:04:31 GMT -5
By u14/15, the TOP players have separated themselves (top 50). They have migrated to the top big clubs on the top teams. I have seen this develop idea for years. Remember, the TOP players continue to develop as well. They do so by practicing with the top players at practice with the best coaches playing the best teams week in and week out. Unless you are there by u14/u15, it isnt happening. Again, experienced this development with our player.
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AFU?
Dec 30, 2023 23:48:31 GMT -5
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Post by soccerrob on Dec 30, 2023 23:48:31 GMT -5
Better club than UFA. Focuses on developing players above all else. Weekly scrimmages. Better coaching than UFA. Good mix of grass and turf training. They practice on large field versus the tiny space at UFA Fowler. Good college recruiting program. Definitely worth checking out.
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AFU?
Dec 31, 2023 18:37:16 GMT -5
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Post by steamers on Dec 31, 2023 18:37:16 GMT -5
I don’t feel the practice space is big enough at Scott Hudgens, but I haven’t seen sessions at Fowler Park to compare.
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AFU?
Jan 1, 2024 10:20:10 GMT -5
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on Jan 1, 2024 10:20:10 GMT -5
I don’t feel the practice space is big enough at Scott Hudgens, but I haven’t seen sessions at Fowler Park to compare. How big of a space do you really need? 1/4 to 1/2 field is sufficient.
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AFU?
Jan 2, 2024 15:20:21 GMT -5
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Post by newposter on Jan 2, 2024 15:20:21 GMT -5
I don’t feel the practice space is big enough at Scott Hudgens, but I haven’t seen sessions at Fowler Park to compare. How big of a space do you really need? 1/4 to 1/2 field is sufficient. For older players, a full size field is often needed particularly when say a u15 scrimmages a u16 team. Go visit to check out the local clubs training to get a feel for the facilities and the practice structure. Do they match and support your players end plans?
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