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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 10, 2023 7:55:37 GMT -5
Ha! Since TH fell off and ppl have slowed down on bashing them soccergurl ’s post are some of the more entertaining highlights of the blog. It’s actually quite brilliant. Too bad some just “don’t get the show” Funny enough, I was thinking the same thing. Formerly, you bring up TH and it would light up the forum. However, now it seems the three things that get folks fired up on here are: - Atlanta Fire United(AFU) shenanigans(perceived or real); - The USWNT which inevitably evolves into the real issue of Rapinoe-esque bashing; - The poetry of the love struck duo of soccergurl and slickdaddy96. One an All-American the other a Patois-French-Creole speaking English Teacher; p.s. Every so often though, TH, UWMNT and Bobby Wooooooood! Do fire folks up
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 10, 2023 8:33:39 GMT -5
My take is this forum is Like Hell's kitchen from Sleepers - no politics or religion.
I just think she isn't good anymore, slower than molasses on the ball, and she is one trick money who can serve balls into the box. and her service isn't even good anymore.
she scored 6 goals in 2019 and had 3 assists. 1 goal for Thailand (blow out victory) - a 3 year old would have scored it, basically a gift from morgan 2 pks vs spain 1 very lucky goal vs france, a strange free kick outside the box, that went through a crowd of bodies 1 goal vs france -- again, a gift from morgan, a ball played through in the box easy finish, almost an empty net 1 pk vs Netherlands
look 6 goals is impressive no doubt, a goal is a goal, but these were all gifts. granted she made the pks, none were superspecial, just beat the keeper, no side nets or clinical finishes. interestingly, most pks were on the ground, so not sure why she is skying the one against sweden. major credit for scoring those goals, but her play wasn't even great in 2019 -- just right place right time -- morgan gave her 2 goals on a platter -- literally, any human on earth would finish those.
Japan is the most impressive team so far - but still as bad as we were, all you have to do is beat a below average portugal team and your playing south africa in the first round of the knock out stage, and then spain -- eazy road to semis's, then the reaction wouldn't be the sky is falling etc.
I've seen first hand super clinical and technical players - see ucla's #10, Ally Lemos is nasty. The coach is and was clueless, zero ability to understand tactics and numerical advantages. One thing that is for sure, these girls can't play in tight spaces, maybe horan and few others, but none get or understand why quick short passes are so advantages to get the defenders off balance. We relied on 3 horses up top, with zero hold up play and our direct balls weren't even good. Very few positive balls into space or dynamic off the ball movement. Alex is different than smith and williams, because her left is super nasty. She never really got the ball in dangerous positions.
If and when I'm the coach I'd plan for every scenario, if Rose gets a yellow card accumulation what will we do, if Smith gets hurt, what will we do, if we lose Horan because of fatigue, what do we do. He seemed to have zero concept of planning for long tournament. I've come across some bad coaches in my days, one was legendary, great monday - Friday coach besides a few things, but come Saturday or Sunday on gameday , the guy had no idea how to manage a roster. From a far this coach appears to just roll the ball out their and say go play.
I still think depth in the other countries is an issue besides Japan. Netherlands are without van de Donk, which probably will have a huge impact on their play. They were missing Miedema, and it was obvious they needed her. England didn't look great, lets see how they play without their player who stomped the girl. Even france, these teams lack depth.
That was our luxury regardless of style of play, we will wear you down and then wear you down even more. the coach didn't even take advangtage of our depth, instead he played a washed up old timer..... I'll stop now.
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Post by bolo on Aug 10, 2023 8:55:18 GMT -5
My take is this forum is Like Hell's kitchen from Sleepers - no politics or religion. I just think she isn't good anymore, slower than molasses on the ball, and she is one trick money who can serve balls into the box. and her service isn't even good anymore. she scored 6 goals in 2019 and had 3 assists. 1 goal for Thailand (blow out victory) - a 3 year old would have scored it, basically a gift from morgan 2 pks vs spain 1 very lucky goal vs france, a strange free kick outside the box, that went through a crowd of bodies 1 goal vs france -- again, a gift from morgan, a ball played through in the box easy finish, almost an empty net 1 pk vs Netherlands look 6 goals is impressive no doubt, a goal is a goal, but these were all gifts. granted she made the pks, none were superspecial, just beat the keeper, no side nets or clinical finishes. interestingly, most pks were on the ground, so not sure why she is skying the one against sweden. major credit for scoring those goals, but her play wasn't even great in 2019 -- just right place right time -- morgan gave her 2 goals on a platter -- literally, any human on earth would finish those. Japan is the most impressive team so far - but still as bad as we were, all you have to do is beat a below average portugal team and your playing south africa in the first round of the knock out stage, and then spain -- eazy road to semis's, then the reaction wouldn't be the sky is falling etc. I've seen first hand super clinical and technical players - see ucla's #10, Ally Lemos is nasty. The coach is and was clueless, zero ability to understand tactics and numerical advantages. One thing that is for sure, these girls can't play in tight spaces, maybe horan and few others, but none get or understand why quick short passes are so advantages to get the defenders off balance. We relied on 3 horses up top, with zero hold up play and our direct balls weren't even good. Very few positive balls into space or dynamic off the ball movement. Alex is different than smith and williams, because her left is super nasty. She never really got the ball in dangerous positions. If and when I'm the coach I'd plan for every scenario, if Rose gets a yellow card accumulation what will we do, if Smith gets hurt, what will we do, if we lose Horan because of fatigue, what do we do. He seemed to have zero concept of planning for long tournament. I've come across some bad coaches in my days, one was legendary, great monday - Friday coach besides a few things, but come Saturday or Sunday on gameday , the guy had no idea how to manage a roster. From a far this coach appears to just roll the ball out their and say go play. I still think depth in the other countries is an issue besides Japan. Netherlands are without van de Donk, which probably will have a huge impact on their play. They were missing Miedema, and it was obvious they needed her. England didn't look great, lets see how they play without their player who stomped the girl. Even france, these teams lack depth. That was our luxury regardless of style of play, we will wear you down and then wear you down even more. the coach didn't even take advangtage of our depth, instead he played a washed up old timer..... I'll stop now. Agree with almost everything you said, very well-put. Only slight correction is that we didn't just have to beat Portugal to win the group and set ourselves up for an easier path the rest of the way. Because we drew with the Dutch, we would have had to beat Portugal and stay ahead of the Dutch on goal differential, which we ended up not even being close on, since the Dutch beat Vietnam 7-0 and we only beat them 3-0. Which also should have set off alarm bells around our ability to finish, since Vietnam wasn't even remotely competitive in that game. To only score 3 against them was kind of pathetic, though seeing how the rest of the tournament played out- only scoring 1 goal total in the subsequent 3 games- maybe it was just who this team was- good/great athletes with limited technical and finishing skill.
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Post by soccergurl on Aug 10, 2023 9:09:18 GMT -5
it's a perfectly standard variant of English, to be fair. likely Caribbean pidgon/creole. just saying. and it's fun in a format like this. My question is it better for the people to just launch back into personal attacks against everyone that attacks them on this board or try to get you to acknowledge that your behavior is wrong on this thread. You all sound like Donald Trump talking about a political opponent, someone I assume you think has awful temperament and attitudes against others as I do, and my guess is you all think you are better than that. The comments like the ones below are fun? That counts for all the "likes" on other personal attacks in this thread. |me tink u follow uswnt like nutjob| |me tinks u like drug addict| |me tinks u start foaming at mouth| Fun for who? |me tink dis is slickdoode69 usin anoda account|
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Post by soccergurl on Aug 10, 2023 9:09:37 GMT -5
Me tink your shtick here is old especially from a person we all know speaks English just fine in real life. Agreed slickdaddy. I would say this is the problem with half our country, anyone that they disagree with they name call. It just goes straight to personal insults. |me tink I here ma name| |me tink slickdoode69 carri torch 4 me| |me tink I hav 2 clarify sumtins| |me tink I no like slickdoode69| |me tink slickdoode69 a anti-uswnt troll| |me tink u paint uswnt wit 1 brush bc of ur luv 4 Rapinoe| |me tink 22 oda playas on uswnt| |me tink they all work had 2 make wc team| |me tink I no comment on oda peepus thots on uswnt| |me tink I say again, I no like slickdoode69 bc he anti-uswnt troll|
Example |me no like unicorns| |me tink unicorn hav elephant feet| |me tink oda peepus luv unicorns| |me tink I keep ma hate of unicorns feet 2 masef| |me tink slickdoode69 do di same wit uswnt| |me tink then I no troll slickdoode69| |me tink slickdoode69 do betta I do betta|
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Post by flix on Aug 10, 2023 9:11:03 GMT -5
I read a very interesting article in the LA Times by Bill Plaschke that is spot on. I’ve always asked where is the diversity in the women’s game as it seems everyone on the team has at least one white parent. They are going to have to do a serious reboot.
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Post by futboldad1 on Aug 10, 2023 9:52:27 GMT -5
I read a very interesting article in the LA Times by Bill Plaschke that is spot on. I’ve always asked where is the diversity in the women’s game as it seems everyone on the team has at least one white parent. They are going to have to do a serious reboot. Why the race card? goodness
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 10, 2023 9:56:04 GMT -5
My question is it better for the people to just launch back into personal attacks against everyone that attacks them on this board or try to get you to acknowledge that your behavior is wrong on this thread. You all sound like Donald Trump talking about a political opponent, someone I assume you think has awful temperament and attitudes against others as I do, and my guess is you all think you are better than that. The comments like the ones below are fun? That counts for all the "likes" on other personal attacks in this thread. |me tink u follow uswnt like nutjob| |me tinks u like drug addict| |me tinks u start foaming at mouth| Fun for who? |me tink dis is slickdoode69 usin anoda account|
Sorry nope. I use one account and one account only. Nothing I say here do I care enough to make another account to be even more "anonymous" LOL....
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 10, 2023 9:59:17 GMT -5
I read a very interesting article in the LA Times by Bill Plaschke that is spot on. I’ve always asked where is the diversity in the women’s game as it seems everyone on the team has at least one white parent. They are going to have to do a serious reboot. Why the race card? goodness Agreed. LA Times and Flix concentrated on the wrong things as always. DEI /=/ best possible players, workers or whatever field or business you are in. You should pick the best and most qualified regardless of race or gender or any other factor. The USWNT should worry less about DEI and more about getting the best possible coach and players on the team to win games and World Cups. I don't care what race those players or coaches are as long as they win and are proud and happy to be playing for the United States.
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Post by atlantagray on Aug 10, 2023 10:19:10 GMT -5
I read a very interesting article in the LA Times by Bill Plaschke that is spot on. I’ve always asked where is the diversity in the women’s game as it seems everyone on the team has at least one white parent. They are going to have to do a serious reboot. so...you're saying 2 white parents ftw? or 2 poc parents ftw? or simply commentary on the evils of race-mixing?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 10, 2023 10:35:15 GMT -5
Maybe I'm crazy, but when a new coach rolls in, this is what I have for the next cycle with only 11 players being retained. I always felt Cook was underwhelming. I figured Sullivan would be retained and Horan, but can't see Horan starting in 4 years.
Status for 2027 1=retain, 0=drop Goalkeepers NAME AGE Status for 2027 Alyssa Naeher 35 0 Casey Murphy 27 1 AubreyKingsbury 31 0
Field Players NAME AGE Status for 2027 Sofia Huerta 30 0 Naomi Girma 23 1 Kelley O'Hara 35 0 Alana Cook 26 0 Emily Sonnett 29 0 Emily Fox23 25 1 Alyssa Thompson 18 1 Julie Ertz 31 0 Savannah DeMelo 25 0 Lindsey Horan 29 1 Rose Lavelle 28 1 Andi Sullivan 27 1 Crystal Dunn 31 0 Kristie Mewis 32 0 Ashley Sanchez 24 1 Lynn Williams 30 0 Sophia Smith 23 1 Alex Morgan 34 1 Megan Rapinoe 38 0 Trinity Rodman 21 1
Total 11
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 10, 2023 10:41:48 GMT -5
I read a very interesting article in the LA Times by Bill Plaschke that is spot on. I’ve always asked where is the diversity in the women’s game as it seems everyone on the team has at least one white parent. They are going to have to do a serious reboot. Obama called, he says one black parent is enough to qualify for diversity. Elizabeth Warren also called, she says that a relative telling you that you have some native american blood creates diversity.
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Post by flix on Aug 10, 2023 11:04:51 GMT -5
I think it’s interesting how people get riled up about bringing up race when it suits them but people can bring up Kapernick when they want. Interesting it was a white guy who wrote the article but I guess he’s race baiting. There’s no way there could be something there right. I haven’t seen too many if any Latina players, not even going to mention Asian or any of the other races that make up our country. But when you turn on women’s soccer for the US team, it’s predominantly white girls but alas I’m sure that’s what the majority of the parents have on this site based on a lot of the comments. That’s fine the game is passing you guys by and could be similar to how the Celtics used to dominate when it was 8 teams in the league. Just because you don’t want to talk about things doesn’t mean it doesn’t mean exist. When I watch Japan, I’m expecting Japanese players. When I watch Sweden I expect to see white ladies. However, watching the US, it should not be overwhelmingly white based on our population. But we all know the upper middle class rules soccer in America even though there are players that ho can’t afford to play that are probably better.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 10, 2023 11:13:44 GMT -5
A lot of intelligent people would say that that making a sacrifice to change your country for what you perceive to be the better is the most patriotic thing you can do. Just because you disagree with them doesn't make them unpatriotic. The nuance here is the "perceive to be the better" part. Not all change people fight for is "for the better" of society. There's definitely arguments that some causes fought for can make the lives of many of your fellow Americans worse. The thing about politics is what one perceives to be better another might not. I am asking with genuine curiosity and because I don’t spend a lot of time on social media and the actual media I tend to stay away from controversial stories whenever possible…what causes that have been fought for by the members of the USWNT make lives of MANY of their fellow Americans worse? To another who disparaged the quality of the tournament, what goals did you see that were laughable, bad, poor quality of other negative descriptions? I have watched many of the matches in totality. Not just the USA either. What I have seen overall is a very high quality of soccer being played by all of the nations in the tournament. Some might have had a bad game or two in there, but overall the games have been great. The players have been skilled. The tactics (Vlatko aside) have been stellar. Have silly mistakes been made by players? Sure. Happens to the men, women and children that play this game at all levels including GOATS. Did the USA play poorly? Yes. Did their politics cause them to play poorly? Highly doubtful. Did Rapinoe show that her decision to retire is appropriate given her quality drop off? Yes. Did Marta play poorly? Yes. But we have seen some real improvement in the women’s game globally and this tournament is filled with quality everywhere. The time zone issue is a problem for us here, but to crap all over this tournament is in poor taste particularly from fathers of girl athletes.
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Post by mamadona on Aug 10, 2023 11:19:11 GMT -5
I’m not a big fan of Rapinoe or the team but I’m not against them either. Not sure I agree that if you make a national team you have to agree with everything that goes on in your country. It just means you were picked as one of the best! You’re still a person with freedom of speech etc.
What if a Russian, Chinese or Saudi player did some kind of protest, would that be ok? Or is it just US players that shouldn’t protest because our country is so perfect…?
It is kinda sad if it distracts too much from the fun of sport though, I can understand that. I can see both sides.
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Post by soccergurl on Aug 10, 2023 11:22:14 GMT -5
I read a very interesting article in the LA Times by Bill Plaschke that is spot on. I’ve always asked where is the diversity in the women’s game as it seems everyone on the team has at least one white parent. They are going to have to do a serious reboot. |me tink Crystal Dunn no have white parent|
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 10, 2023 11:24:19 GMT -5
I think it’s interesting how people get riled up about bringing up race when it suits them but people can bring up Kapernick when they want. Interesting it was a white guy who wrote the article but I guess he’s race baiting. There’s no way there could be something there right. I haven’t seen too many if any Latina players, not even going to mention Asian or any of the other races that make up our country. But when you turn on women’s soccer for the US team, it’s predominantly white girls but alas I’m sure that’s what the majority of the parents have on this site based on a lot of the comments. That’s fine the game is passing you guys by and could be similar to how the Celtics used to dominate when it was 8 teams in the league. Just because you don’t want to talk about things doesn’t mean it doesn’t mean exist. When I watch Japan, I’m expecting Japanese players. When I watch Sweden I expect to see white ladies. However, watching the US, it should not be overwhelmingly white based on our population. But we all know the upper middle class rules soccer in America even though there are players that ho can’t afford to play that are probably better. You mean like Sophia Smith, Trinity Rodman, Alyssa Thompson, Naomi Girma, Lynn Williams, Crystal Dunn, Sofia Huerta, Ashley Sanchez, and Alana Cook. Did you forget about them or they just don't fit the narrative that you are trying to push? That is 9 out of 23 players on the USWNT World Cup roster that are races other than white. The percentages of white and non-white players pretty well mirrors the US population. But again, don't let the facts get in the way of the narrative that you are trying to push.
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Post by soccergurl on Aug 10, 2023 11:44:52 GMT -5
|me tink dis is slickdoode69 usin anoda account|
Sorry nope. I use one account and one account only. Nothing I say here do I care enough to make another account to be even more "anonymous" LOL.... |me tink the results are in| |me tink the lie detector test say u lie|
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Post by soccernoleuk on Aug 10, 2023 11:46:57 GMT -5
For the USMNT it is understandable that soccer misses out on some top athletes because of football, basketball, baseball, etc.
However, for the USWNT that excuse doesn't fit. The biggest reason top female athletes aren't necessarily available is $$$$$$$$$$$$. Based on the structure of youth soccer in this country, what percentage can actually play at the top level, or even the second level? How many good players either remain in Rec., or play at smaller clubs and go well under the radar?
Yes the big clubs offer financial aid if it is needed. However, that aid doesn't do much for all the travel costs for both the player and at least 1 family member to travel with the player. Additionally, these big clubs only cover so much ground when it comes to geographic coverage. So for better players, that might not be able to afford travel soccer already, they also have to travel every day just to get to practice.
I don't have answers. I'm just pointing out something I think will be a big hurdle for the USWNT moving forward now that the rest of the world is pouring resources into girls soccer, and have effectively caught up to the US.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 10, 2023 12:34:08 GMT -5
I think it’s interesting how people get riled up about bringing up race when it suits them but people can bring up Kapernick when they want. Interesting it was a white guy who wrote the article but I guess he’s race baiting. There’s no way there could be something there right. I haven’t seen too many if any Latina players, not even going to mention Asian or any of the other races that make up our country. But when you turn on women’s soccer for the US team, it’s predominantly white girls but alas I’m sure that’s what the majority of the parents have on this site based on a lot of the comments. That’s fine the game is passing you guys by and could be similar to how the Celtics used to dominate when it was 8 teams in the league. Just because you don’t want to talk about things doesn’t mean it doesn’t mean exist. When I watch Japan, I’m expecting Japanese players. When I watch Sweden I expect to see white ladies. However, watching the US, it should not be overwhelmingly white based on our population. But we all know the upper middle class rules soccer in America even though there are players that ho can’t afford to play that are probably better. You mean like Sophia Smith, Trinity Rodman, Alyssa Thompson, Naomi Girma, Lynn Williams, Crystal Dunn, Sofia Huerta, Ashley Sanchez, and Alana Cook. Did you forget about them or they just don't fit the narrative that you are trying to push? That is 9 out of 23 players on the USWNT World Cup roster that are races other than white. The percentages of white and non-white players pretty well mirrors the US population. But again, don't let the facts get in the way of the narrative that you are trying to push. Absolutely correct, and the fact that Flix points out a white person wrote the column means absolutely nothing. Right now the most "woke" folks in America are white people especially white women who think they know what is best for all minorities even over what minorities are actually saying. I think it is some type of "white guilt" coping mechanism for them, but honestly they don't realize a lot of what they think is best for minorities and also a lot of their statements are really really racist if you dive in it. It's always stuff like these minorities "can't better themselves on their own" or these minorities "don't know how to get a valid ID", etc.... I know plenty of minority folks that are offended by the white folks thinking they know better about what is best for them then they do as if they are dumb or stupid or something.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 10, 2023 12:38:41 GMT -5
back to soccer -- is the coach fired yet?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 10, 2023 12:42:27 GMT -5
back to soccer -- is the coach fired yet? Just a guess here but I bet we’re waiting on the WWC to finish before we announce his firing in order to keep the focus on the teams still in it.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 10, 2023 12:52:24 GMT -5
back to soccer -- is the coach fired yet? Just a guess here but I bet we’re waiting on the WWC to finish before we announce his firing in order to keep the focus on the teams still in it. Maybe. Because we want to focus on the teams or because we want to see which coach we will go after? Who is the best soccer coach in the world?
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Post by olderthandirt on Aug 10, 2023 13:12:51 GMT -5
Based on recent history, US Soccer will not renew the coach, spend 5-1/2 months leaking names of possible replacements, reporting that excellent coaches have declined the job, hire an interim coach, and then rehire the recently not renewed idiot after some players say that they like him.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 10, 2023 14:33:31 GMT -5
Just a guess here but I bet we’re waiting on the WWC to finish before we announce his firing in order to keep the focus on the teams still in it. Maybe. Because we want to focus on the teams or because we want to see which coach we will go after? Who is the best soccer coach in the world? So that the focus on the game/sport is on the teams still playing and not the USA's coaching issues. If/when we fire our coach, it will be big news that will, fair or not, take a lot of the current focus off of the teams still in the WWC. That's just a guess on my part, assuming we've already made a decision to fire him. OTOH, it could be that we haven't made a decision yet.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Aug 10, 2023 16:53:54 GMT -5
Maybe. Because we want to focus on the teams or because we want to see which coach we will go after? Who is the best soccer coach in the world? So that the focus on the game/sport is on the teams still playing and not the USA's coaching issues. If/when we fire our coach, it will be big news that will, fair or not, take a lot of the current focus off of the teams still in the WWC. That's just a guess on my part, assuming we've already made a decision to fire him. OTOH, it could be that we haven't made a decision yet. Maybe our future coach is still currently coaching in the world cup and they need to wait until their current team is knocked out? Seen it happen in the NFL before... just a thought. I don't put much stock in the USSF caring about the Women's World Cup so much that they put off making their own team better for the sake of the tourney.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 10, 2023 20:52:12 GMT -5
Maybe. Because we want to focus on the teams or because we want to see which coach we will go after? Who is the best soccer coach in the world? So that the focus on the game/sport is on the teams still playing and not the USA's coaching issues. If/when we fire our coach, it will be big news that will, fair or not, take a lot of the current focus off of the teams still in the WWC. That's just a guess on my part, assuming we've already made a decision to fire him. OTOH, it could be that we haven't made a decision yet. I hope we fire him and I hope that you are right that they don’t want to outshine the teams remaining. But the USSF has not shown a lot of smarts when it comes to coaches hiring, firing.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 11, 2023 8:04:12 GMT -5
Maybe I'm crazy, but when a new coach rolls in, this is what I have for the next cycle with only 11 players being retained. I always felt Cook was underwhelming. I figured Sullivan would be retained and Horan, but can't see Horan starting in 4 years. Status for 2027 1=retain, 0=drop Goalkeepers NAME AGE Status for 2027 Alyssa Naeher 35 0 Casey Murphy 27 1 AubreyKingsbury 31 0 Field Players NAME AGE Status for 2027 Sofia Huerta 30 0 Naomi Girma 23 1 Kelley O'Hara 35 0 Alana Cook 26 0 Emily Sonnett 29 0 Emily Fox23 25 1 Alyssa Thompson 18 1 Julie Ertz 31 0 Savannah DeMelo 25 0 Lindsey Horan 29 1 Rose Lavelle 28 1 Andi Sullivan 27 1 Crystal Dunn 31 0 Kristie Mewis 32 0 Ashley Sanchez 24 1 Lynn Williams 30 0 Sophia Smith 23 1 Alex Morgan 34 1 Megan Rapinoe 38 0 Trinity Rodman 21 1 Total 11 The only argument or change is make Alex Morgan a 0, she was ineffective in this WC and won't improve. Watched one of her last club games before the WC and there is obvious decline in her game. Out with the old guard and bring up the new. We need to reload the team along with a new gaffer to take this team back to the top. But it starts NOW!!!
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Post by mochiburon on Aug 11, 2023 8:34:09 GMT -5
I read a very interesting article in the LA Times by Bill Plaschke that is spot on. I’ve always asked where is the diversity in the women’s game as it seems everyone on the team has at least one white parent. They are going to have to do a serious reboot. 4 World Cups. 8 for 8 in making semifinals. So when they go 8 for 9 in semi's your brain really went to "diversity problem"? The Plaschke article even calls out Latino cultural norms as one of the biggest headwinds for latina players. And its not like the U.S. is looking at the rich football legacy of Honduran, Guatemalan or Mexican Womens national teams. Those countries have produced NADA on the international stage. Maybe they have a diversity problem too? And who are you to suggest that Sweden players or Japanese players aren't diverse? Unless you research how each player on those teams grew up, educational circumstances, economic circumstances, personal choices etc. you could never make a responsible summary of their similarities. Your diversity sounds like people aren't the right race (or aren't enough of the right race) for your liking, little to do with different paths to performance in sport.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 11, 2023 9:49:04 GMT -5
I read a very interesting article in the LA Times by Bill Plaschke that is spot on. I’ve always asked where is the diversity in the women’s game as it seems everyone on the team has at least one white parent. They are going to have to do a serious reboot. 4 World Cups. 8 for 8 in making semifinals. So when they go 8 for 9 in semi's your brain really went to "diversity problem"? The Plaschke article even calls out Latino cultural norms as one of the biggest headwinds for latina players. And its not like the U.S. is looking at the rich football legacy of Honduran, Guatemalan or Mexican Womens national teams. Those countries have produced NADA on the international stage. Maybe they have a diversity problem too? And who are you to suggest that Sweden players or Japanese players aren't diverse? Unless you research how each player on those teams grew up, educational circumstances, economic circumstances, personal choices etc. you could never make a responsible summary of their similarities. Your diversity sounds like people aren't the right race (or aren't enough of the right race) for your liking, little to do with different paths to performance in sport. As someone who had a daughter play 3 years at UFA Norcross, your comment about Latino cultural norms is spot on. I’m not saying they discourage their girls from playing soccer, but they clearly don’t encourage and support it the way they do for their boys. I saw it first hand. When we’d see boys teams practicing, the difference in racial makeup was startling compared to the girls.
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