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Post by youthsoccerdad on Aug 21, 2023 7:30:05 GMT -5
Can't remember the last time we were heading into a weekend with temperatures from here to Alabama set to be 100 degrees. Is there any point clubs cancel games (e.g. 100 degrees on turf)?
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Post by newguy on Aug 21, 2023 8:23:00 GMT -5
Is there any point clubs cancel games Did any of the checks bounce? I’ve seen practice times move to combine with later times or be shortened in some instances. I don’t recall games being canceled but we are only a couple years into this. |
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Post by bogan on Aug 21, 2023 9:13:11 GMT -5
Is there any point clubs cancel games Did any of the checks bounce? I’ve seen practice times move to combine with later times or be shortened in some instances. I don’t recall games being canceled but we are only a couple years into this. Usually games get moved up or played under the lights in my experience. Have had to touch off at 7am and 9:30 pm before. |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Aug 21, 2023 9:43:10 GMT -5
I've never seen cancelations, but you will see water breaks for sure. Our daughter's cleats literally melted one game she played on turf in July...
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Post by bogan on Aug 21, 2023 9:51:06 GMT -5
I've never seen cancelations, but you will see water breaks for sure. Our daughter's cleats literally melted one game she played on turf in July... Been there…Nikes seemed to be the worst (for the glue melting). |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 21, 2023 10:00:51 GMT -5
yea, hence why i do think ECNL should allow re-entry in the 2nd half.
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Post by bolo on Aug 21, 2023 12:07:56 GMT -5
yea, hence why i do think ECNL should allow re-entry in the 2nd half. I've never understood why youth soccer leagues don't allow open subbing in all games. These aren't professionals, we're trying to teach the game and let these kids & teens have fun playing it. No one has fun sitting on the bench. Even college soccer allows reentry in the 2nd half. Again, I see zero reason why- especially when we're playing in 90+ degree heat/100+ degree heat indexes like we will be this weekend- that a player shouldn't be allowed to sub out after 20 minutes, sit 10 minutes, then sub back in for the rest of the half. How does that hurt anyone? Is it the way the pros do it? No, but again, THESE AREN'T PROS, THEY'RE KIDS! The vast majority of these players will never play beyond the club/high school level. So why treat them like pros in terms of subbing? It has never made any sense to me, and never will. |
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Post by Oceanready on Aug 21, 2023 12:20:11 GMT -5
I heard the teams that went to Texas last weekend played in 100 degree temps, some even in 104+. Of course that is a different state and you are asking about Georgia. I do know they had four water breaks (2 each half), not sure if it was turf but they were allowed multiple substitutions.
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Post by rifle on Aug 21, 2023 12:20:30 GMT -5
Agreed. It’s particularly dumb when college soccer doesn’t have the same re-entry rules. If it’s a progression and for “development” (of anything besides a wallet) the subbing rules would allow re-entry for kids.
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Post by soccerdad16 on Aug 21, 2023 12:26:09 GMT -5
I've never seen cancelations, but you will see water breaks for sure. Our daughter's cleats literally melted one game she played on turf in July... Been there…Nikes seemed to be the worst (for the glue melting). You may know this, but a little tidbit for the forum. Nike has a claim policy, you can submit a claim on any of their cleats as long as they were made within the last 2 years. You just have to pay to ship to them, they take a look at the damage and then send back a voucher for the full cost. We have used it for glue issues and another time we had a tear where the sock part connects to the cleat, both were accepted. No proof of purchase or receipt needed. www.nike.com/help/claims/terms |
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Post by futboldad1 on Aug 21, 2023 13:26:57 GMT -5
My kid's last two tournaments had 100+ degree heat on the field (both in Peachtree City).
The league sub rules were created to exclude other kids from developing valuable game experience . . . and to introduce envy and animosity to a team environment.
Win-win for, . . . well, . . . nobody. Let's load up the bench and hand out jerseys with league patches on them. pay through the nose to not play.
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Post by bogan on Aug 21, 2023 14:13:58 GMT -5
My kid's last two tournaments had 100+ degree heat on the field (both in Peachtree City). The league sub rules were created to exclude other kids from developing valuable game experience . . . and to introduce envy and animosity to a team environment. Win-win for, . . . well, . . . nobody. Let's load up the bench and hand out jerseys with league patches on them. pay through the nose to not play. We played in Louisiana and they moved the times back for us. Supposed to play at 11…played at 9. It was still very hot. Water breaks each half and ice baths ready if necessary. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 21, 2023 14:28:00 GMT -5
Played in Florida with heat index of 112+ recently. Allowed free substitutions and 2 water breaks per half. Still could tell the Georgia girls had less energy at the end than the Florida kids had.
Thus far I have never seen a game cancelled due to heat. Our coach just sent reminder to start hydrating now for this weekend including the parents!
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Post by dabe on Aug 21, 2023 14:42:42 GMT -5
I miss San Diego. It seemed stupid at first and honestly the price for 3 games is, but I get it. 75 and sunny every day! Perfect soccer weather.
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Post by bogan on Aug 21, 2023 14:47:58 GMT -5
I miss San Diego. It seemed stupid at first and honestly the price for 3 games is, but I get it. 75 and sunny every day! Perfect soccer weather. The weather is horrible in San Diego right now… |
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Post by dabe on Aug 21, 2023 15:16:45 GMT -5
I miss San Diego. It seemed stupid at first and honestly the price for 3 games is, but I get it. 75 and sunny every day! Perfect soccer weather. The weather is horrible in San Diego right now… My phone is showing 73 and sunny. Looks like the tropical storm already passed and didn't leave too much damage, thankfully |
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Post by triffling on Aug 21, 2023 16:10:56 GMT -5
Re heat, I’ve seen games moved to the evening for heat reasons and I do recall a few games being cancelled ahead of time due to temp forecasts being above 100.
As for the comments re subbing, first the reason the old DA allowed for no reentry was so that players would actually learn how to pace themselves and learn how to play a full 90 minutes and be better prepared for pro soccer and/or youth national team call ups.
One of the biggest criticisms of the college game is too much subbing and no roster limits.
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Post by rifle on Aug 21, 2023 18:03:06 GMT -5
Pretty sure they moved the last men’s World Cup to the winter due to heat
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Post by soccerlife1972 on Aug 22, 2023 7:40:17 GMT -5
Do you think all tournaments this weekend will get canceled ? Like nasa girls has one .
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Post by soccernoleuk on Aug 22, 2023 7:46:21 GMT -5
To give an idea what the clubs think of playing games in the heat, one of our weekend games was just moved. It was supposed to be a 9am start, now it is a 1pm start. Thankfully the high on Sunday is only supposed to be around 90 as opposed to near 100 on Friday & Saturday.
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Post by atlnoleg on Aug 22, 2023 8:28:52 GMT -5
We're playing in the Charlotte Premier Showcase this weekend. Two games on Saturday in what is currently outlooked for 99 degrees. Luckily first game is 8a, but second is 2p. I'm looking forward to going, but hope if they do have to cancel they won't wait til the last minute for those of us driving from four hours away.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 22, 2023 13:20:15 GMT -5
While I find it quite baffling that these youngsters engage in activities, practices, or any kind of endeavor during triple-digit temperatures, I'm curious about the established protocols to safeguard them from overheating. I strongly recommend ensuring that your kids are adequately hydrated, aiming for at least 24 hours in advance, and preferably 48 hours. It would be wise to carry a cooler filled with a substantial amount of ice. Aside from resorting to intravenous fluids or immersing them in an ice bath, placing ice at the back of the neck, under the armpits, and between the thighs is one of the few effective strategies to avert a dire outcome once overheating sets in. Unfortunately, most practice locations lack access to ice or ice buckets. Good luck...
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Post by playfromtheback on Aug 22, 2023 13:25:48 GMT -5
While I find it quite baffling that these youngsters engage in activities, practices, or any kind of endeavor during triple-digit temperatures, I'm curious about the established protocols to safeguard them from overheating. I strongly recommend ensuring that your kids are adequately hydrated, aiming for at least 24 hours in advance, and preferably 48 hours. It would be wise to carry a cooler filled with a substantial amount of ice. Aside from resorting to intravenous fluids or immersing them in an ice bath, placing ice at the back of the neck, under the armpits, and between the thighs is one of the few effective strategies to avert a dire outcome once overheating sets in. Unfortunately, most practice locations lack access to ice or ice buckets. Good luck... Thankfully in my county they will close the parks to teams. our coach has already told us we most likely won't be practicing outdoors this week. I was talking to a coach from another club last night and apparently some of their coaches got in trouble as some kids went out to practice one day when they had closed the parks. |
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Post by bogan on Aug 22, 2023 13:46:01 GMT -5
While I find it quite baffling that these youngsters engage in activities, practices, or any kind of endeavor during triple-digit temperatures, I'm curious about the established protocols to safeguard them from overheating. I strongly recommend ensuring that your kids are adequately hydrated, aiming for at least 24 hours in advance, and preferably 48 hours. It would be wise to carry a cooler filled with a substantial amount of ice. Aside from resorting to intravenous fluids or immersing them in an ice bath, placing ice at the back of the neck, under the armpits, and between the thighs is one of the few effective strategies to avert a dire outcome once overheating sets in. Unfortunately, most practice locations lack access to ice or ice buckets. Good luck... Our practice starts at 8:30…not cool then but bearable |
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Post by mamadona on Aug 22, 2023 13:58:34 GMT -5
Wow that’s late! We’re starting practice later & combining with another team.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 22, 2023 14:10:08 GMT -5
Forsyth county has been closing the parks so UFA has had cancellations. A week or two again Gwinnett county closed the parks one day. AFU has been moving/shortening practices and cancelling some. Tophat Girls tournament sent a update that they are monitoring the temps and may change their policies. As of now it is 2 water breaks per HALF with a running clock with no make up time, cooling stations with trainers at every field, advising hydration now and that parents bring tents and coolers filled with ice water and cooling towels.
As an aside my oldest is done with youth soccer and never in the past did we have any cancellations due to heat. There are two reasons for that. One is because soccer did not previously take heat seriously. Two is that most of the brutal heat days were in the summer before started playing and when they were high 90’s and 100 degree days they were not humid too.
I am glad that soccer is starting to take preventable heat illness seriously
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Post by bogan on Aug 22, 2023 14:18:30 GMT -5
Wow that’s late! We’re starting practice later & combining with another team. Yep-11:30 getting home |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Aug 22, 2023 16:01:04 GMT -5
City of Alpharetta had everything cancelled until 7pm today. Practices in the last week have had a mandate of 10 minutes on 5 minutes off to try and help things.
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Post by soccerloafer on Aug 22, 2023 20:06:45 GMT -5
It's really silly (and kind of dangerous) to try and be productive in extreme temperatures, either high or low.
Had an assignor ping me before the first round of August tournaments. Told him no way, too hot to be reffing multiple games on turf. Check back after Labor Day...
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Post by soccernoleuk on Aug 26, 2023 7:48:54 GMT -5
So, any updates on cancellations or adjusted schedules for this weekend? Both our ECRL games were cancelled and are being rescheduled. It appears as though Concorde was the first to make the decision that their teams would not be playing in the heat this weekend.
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