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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 21, 2018 11:51:52 GMT -5
I wonder what the real issue is? Why is CF losing coaches and directors en-mass? It can't all be placed on the shoulders of GB or could it? Or is it just bad timing and the normal reset that occurs at any big club? Is this a preview of what could occur with clubs like UFA with multiple locations? I agree with Gawdess on this one, I think the bigger question is does Concorde Fire have a club by 2019
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Post by oldboy on May 21, 2018 12:22:01 GMT -5
I wonder what the real issue is? Why is CF losing coaches and directors en-mass? It can't all be placed on the shoulders of GB or could it? Or is it just bad timing and the normal reset that occurs at any big club? Is this a preview of what could occur with clubs like UFA with multiple locations? FG - the answer you seek is already in your post as to the reason why people are leaving, there's a common denominator. I think it's unfair to characterize Greg as the cause of coaches leaving Concorde. Greg has built a club where none really existed before him. He's much like Ted in that regard. However while Ted centers his approach on a very specific style of soccer, Greg centers his on winning and the business side. Say what you want about Greg, but he is upfront about who he is and what his vision of Concorde is about. He's brought tons of coaches through the club over the years and many of the brightest coaches in the city have spent time at the club. Like any other business, when people grow professionally there has to be somewhere to promote them. Without that, they leave to grow their careers. Concorde is a slimly staffed club, always has been. So there's no real place to promote. That means talented people will always end up leaving. I think it's as much a testament to Concorde as it is a potential negative that so many of their coaches go on to be very successful at other clubs. Without Greg's work over the years, many of the coaches everyone loves might not have had a place to coach and Georgia soccer would be nowhere near what it is. Sometimes we are quick to dismiss a person we have differences with without recognizing the contributions they've made and continue to make.
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Post by Lady Soccer Whistledown on May 21, 2018 12:45:33 GMT -5
FG - the answer you seek is already in your post as to the reason why people are leaving, there's a common denominator. I think it's unfair to characterize Greg as the cause of coaches leaving Concorde. Greg has built a club where none really existed before him. He's much like Ted in that regard. However while Ted centers his approach on a very specific style of soccer, Greg centers his on winning and the business side. Say what you want about Greg, but he is upfront about who he is and what his vision of Concorde is about. He's brought tons of coaches through the club over the years and many of the brightest coaches in the city have spent time at the club. Like any other business, when people grow professionally there has to be somewhere to promote them. Without that, they leave to grow their careers. Concorde is a slimly staffed club, always has been. So there's no real place to promote. That means talented people will always end up leaving. I think it's as much a testament to Concorde as it is a potential negative that so many of their coaches go on to be very successful at other clubs. Without Greg's work over the years, many of the coaches everyone loves might not have had a place to coach and Georgia soccer would be nowhere near what it is. Sometimes we are quick to dismiss a person we have differences with without recognizing the contributions they've made and continue to make.
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 21, 2018 12:52:26 GMT -5
Sounds like we need a post about the accomplishments of many of these DOCs and what we have taken for granted over the years etc. Not focusing on the negatives but rather the positives of each...
Either way there is no question, my guess is if your leave this area and ask someone to name 3 to 4 clubs from Atlanta they would respond with the following: 1.Atlanta United 2.Concorde 3.Tophat 4. Georgia United (maybe)
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Post by daddyo on May 21, 2018 13:05:56 GMT -5
GB will always tell you what you want to hear and don't believe any of it. There is no standard philosophy, coaching style, or direction from CF period. It attracts tons of talent and talent wins on the field 80% of the time, no matter what crappy, good or blind coach you put there.
With Great Leadership, CF would be the top of the pyramid, outside of MLS academies. Coaches, parents and players are annoyed because of the lack of direction, lack of communication and no guidance from anywhere in the club. The new young coaches who could grow and develop from real leadership and carry CF vision throughout the organization are just as frustrated as the parents.
I've known Greg a very long time, not a bad guy but not a leader. I don't trust a word he says, because he's lied to me too many times to count.
Having kids that have played out of North and Central as they get older, it starts with the head of the Snake. The higher ups, just keep bragging that CF is a destination club, not a development club, even though tons of talent have grown from the u8's all the way through DA.
You play with your team and practice with your team, however a majority of these kids train with other coaches away from CF to become better soccer players.
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Post by atlsoccerdad on May 22, 2018 7:58:32 GMT -5
I wonder what the real issue is? Why is CF losing coaches and directors en-mass? It can't all be placed on the shoulders of GB or could it? Or is it just bad timing and the normal reset that occurs at any big club? Is this a preview of what could occur with clubs like UFA with multiple locations? If we agree that soccer is a business, then lets think of the typical reasons for a business to fail: lack of demand for the soccer product better product from rival clubs internal problems (club culture, management, salaries, advertising, innovation, facilities, etc.) I am assuming the demand for soccer is still very high. I am assuming that competition is good, but many on the forum rate CF as very high. That leaves only one option. Remember, the problem is that coaches are leaving, not that kids are failing to show up for tryouts...
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Post by kingjoffe on Jun 21, 2018 11:46:46 GMT -5
As stated previously, MG was a trash coach and director. He did more socializing with the parents than coaching. He basically let the parents he liked or team managers decide his roster, positions played and anything else he could do to be liked. Good Luck with that used car salesman TH.
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Post by RedDevil10 on Jun 21, 2018 17:21:23 GMT -5
Is Nick Mantha still at North ?
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Post by soccerfan30 on Jun 21, 2018 20:37:17 GMT -5
Is Nick Mantha still at North ? Yes- he's now the Director
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