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Post by mightydawg on Jul 10, 2023 20:21:25 GMT -5
Th play dates and opponents for ECNL and ECRL are out.
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 7, 2023 14:38:59 GMT -5
Yep. It was a diamond formation at all times. Brought back memories of my childhood. So for these teams employing a diamond defense, what did their midfield and offense look like? When I was in HS we had two strikers and two wingers and they stayed high all of the time. Basically the midfielders covered anything wide defensively. I don't completely remember the formation up top but do remember they put a lot of pressure up top and through the middle with the other 6. This forced a number of long balls into the teeth of the defense.
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 6, 2023 16:57:44 GMT -5
At the boys ECNL showcase, I actually saw several teams using the stopper and sweeper quite well. Middle was jammed and the outside backs stayed compact. Gave up some space on the outside but it worked very well. A lot of teams that play 4 across the back with 2 CBs have one of the CBs take on the striker more forward while the other shifts a bit to cover. Are you saying you saw teams play an actual diamond defensive formation like my wife’s 80s high school team? Yep. It was a diamond formation at all times. Brought back memories of my childhood.
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 6, 2023 15:27:06 GMT -5
At the boys ECNL showcase, I actually saw several teams using the stopper and sweeper quite well. Middle was jammed and the outside backs stayed compact. Gave up some space on the outside but it worked very well.
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 5, 2023 14:33:30 GMT -5
Current rule--a player is offside when they are in the opponents' half and, when the ball is played, any part of the body is closer to the opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent.
New offside trial rule--the whole goal-scoring body of the player must be offside. If any part of the body is behind the last defender, the attacker will remain onside.
The new rule will be first used in Sweden with the nation's men's Under-21 and women's Under-19 leagues being used as testing grounds. The experiment will then move on to competitions in the Netherlands and Italy.
Will this lead to more scoring or will it lead to the end of high lines?
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 30, 2023 15:26:05 GMT -5
NTH-NASA 2007 boys had a fairly dominant week in Greensboro, NC. 4 wins in a row and advanced to ECNL finals tournament in California. 9 goals for and only 1 against during the week. That team has been impressive at nationals. The 2007 boys age group was the one exception in the SE. It had 3 teams make it to the knockout stage.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 30, 2023 15:23:23 GMT -5
While these posts seem to be discussing girl's teMs, I did not see this "spring" fall back on playing by kid's u17 team that were National ECNL finalist. The team members played high school, had club practices, scrimmages, etc. I posit that it comes down to coaching and player dedication and talent affecting team chemistry. Please remember, one team will always win and one team will always lose. The won that wins typically is better due to coaching, talent and team attitude. The post was for both boy and girl teams. Results for SE teams seems to be down this year compared to last year.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 29, 2023 14:41:51 GMT -5
What? How does high school soccer play a role in a national club event months after the high school season finished? The fact that club games are finished in January so the club team goes 4 or 5 months without playing highly competitive games before getting back together and trying to regain the form that they had in January.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 29, 2023 13:36:02 GMT -5
With the exception of the 2007 boys, SE has not done as well as in previous years at ECNL playoffs. Good luck to the teams moving forward.
Is this the result of high school soccer in the spring so that these teams have a 4 or 5 month layoff?
Boys teams advancing to knockout stage:
2010--Concorde Platinum 2009--NASA 2008--none 2007--SC Surf, NASA, CESA 2006--CESA 2005/04--all lost in first round
Girls team advancing to knockout stage:
2010--Florida Premier 2009--UFA 2008--CESA 2007--UFA 2006-- none 2005--UFA knocked out in quarters; Concorde Platinum knocked out in semis
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 14, 2023 12:24:23 GMT -5
yea, additional game by game stats can be found here for Bello: www.transfermarkt.us/george-bello/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/504147/wettbewerb/L2/saison/2022looks like he might have gotten hurt and missed 4 games in a row, and then got minimal minutes after that. But in games he did play, I think they won only 3 of them and tied 3.....(2 of those wins he played 3 and 8 minutes) I've said this before and the same with Wiley, if I was playing a team with these 2 players, I would overload their side of the field and constantly attack that space. They both get caught constantly too far up field and lose track of the priority of defending. My guess is that is why Wiley was moved up to mid/forward with Gutman behind him. They can overlap and cover for each other.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 12, 2023 15:45:59 GMT -5
2006 age group has always be a very large age group. It must be kids leaving soccer for their senior year of HS.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 2, 2023 11:05:50 GMT -5
Yes. Not to be confused with the other USYS Nationals. Best part is that everyone makes it... For ECNL only 50% of teams make it right? For the SE boys, it is actually 53.8% (7 out of 13 teams). For the SE girls, it is 37.5% (6 out of 16 teams).
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 1, 2023 19:12:40 GMT -5
OP is about Atlanta United Regional Development School Residential Camp. We have experience only with regular RDS sessions, not summer camp. Yes, thank you. Really found the RDS spring training to be hugely beneficial so we were thinking about the RDS residential summer camp option at Darlington and trying to get some perspective. I’ve found some opinions on the Red Bull RDS version on FB (overwhelmingly positive) but haven’t been successful with getting info on Atlanta United’s version of it. No first hand experience but I know several kids who went last summer and they loved it. Last summer was the first time they did it and it was only 1 week
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 1, 2023 16:39:57 GMT -5
I assume this is a knock off of The Basketball Tournament that now happens every summer and is shown on ESPN.
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Post by mightydawg on May 31, 2023 9:14:29 GMT -5
Hopefully, by U15 to U19, players and parents know that all of the real work for tryouts occurs before tryouts. Got to put that work in starting May 1st so that when tryouts arrive, it is a formality. I think a lot of parents do, but not everyone. I worry about kids who come from families where English is not their first language, or families that may be lower income and not have the time/resources to keep up with the craziness of soccer, or just kids who's parents are not that engaged. My feeling is that the real tryouts start May 1 they should make that information more public. There was an absolute travesty yesterday at a tryout, where the kid was easily one of top 5-6 kids but to your point the teams were already decided and he was dropped. Happens every year, sadly. Once you experience it once, you learn quickly.
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Post by mightydawg on May 30, 2023 18:12:56 GMT -5
Remember that for ECNL, you can roster 30 kids and have game day rosters of 18 kids. Even then, doesn't mean 18 will play. So making a top team may not be all that great. Do your homework and look up the roster sizes for different clubs. If a team has more than 18, that means kids are sitting every weekend. That is a Concorde special at older ages. 20 to 24 boys on a roster.
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Post by mightydawg on May 30, 2023 11:32:10 GMT -5
Hopefully, by U15 to U19, players and parents know that all of the real work for tryouts occurs before tryouts. Got to put that work in starting May 1st so that when tryouts arrive, it is a formality. Hopefully they are putting in the work the whole season so their placement is a formality on their own team. If it isn’t or they are not happy where they are then going around starting May 1st will be necessary. In an ideal world, that would be nice. In the world of youth soccer, those are the players most at risk. I know of a number of ECNL players who started and played all, or most of, the game that are scrambling for spots due to a coaching change. New coach made promises to his existing players and players outside the club. I know an academy director who says that if a kid has been with the club, he will stay so he brings in new players and pushes down existing players. Beat practice is to always know your status before tryouts.
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Post by mightydawg on May 30, 2023 10:06:39 GMT -5
Hopefully, by U15 to U19, players and parents know that all of the real work for tryouts occurs before tryouts. Got to put that work in starting May 1st so that when tryouts arrive, it is a formality.
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Post by mightydawg on May 28, 2023 12:55:39 GMT -5
Goodbye to Leicester, Leeds and Southampton. Not good for the USMNT unless Adams and McKennie leave. I think they both will. Aaronson might benefit from a year in the Championship Championship is still better than being in MLS.
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Post by mightydawg on May 28, 2023 12:54:27 GMT -5
Goodbye to Leicester, Leeds and Southampton. What a rapid fall for Leicester City. Won the premier league in the 2015-2016 season. Finished in the top 10 pretty much ever season since this with a couple of top 5 finishes. Then drop from 8th to out in one year.
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Tryouts
May 26, 2023 10:43:03 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by mightydawg on May 26, 2023 10:43:03 GMT -5
Typically not. Normally you get a call from the coach of the team you made. If no call, no team. Sometimes if there are a group of kids just short of enough to make a team, they will reach out to that group and tell them that more kids are needed to form a team and ask you to look for friends to join if they have someone who can coach.
Time frame can range from a few days to 10 or so days depending on size of club. Top team fills its spots, then second team, then third, etc. depending on number of teams and how long parents take to accept, it can take a little while to work down.
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Post by mightydawg on May 24, 2023 8:59:38 GMT -5
Step 1--ask coach of original team where kid stands. If he has been with the team and coach for years, coach should provide an answer. Step 2--ask coach of new team where kids stands. If he has practiced with team several times, coach should be a position to tell you.
Based on those answers, make a decision based on where your kid wants to be and what is best for the kid's long term development. If you have an offer from one but it is not the top choice, use that offer to force the hand of the top choice to make a decision.
Night 1--go to kid's top choice. Afterward, ask the coach where kid stands. Night 2--go to 2nd choice. Afterward, ask the coach where kid stands Night 3--go to where you thing you have the best chance of make the team.
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Post by mightydawg on May 23, 2023 13:55:45 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on May 23, 2023 13:51:40 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on May 23, 2023 13:47:46 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on May 23, 2023 13:45:26 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on May 23, 2023 13:39:23 GMT -5
According to Concorde's most recent tax filing (2020), Gregg was paid $93,250 plus other compensation of $6,960. Ken was paid $132,000 plus other compensation of $7,660. Home Turf consultants (which is owned by Gregg) was paid $157,328 for field maintenance GNB Enterprises (which is owned by Gregg) was paid $150,164 for field maintenance and office support. For those keeping track at home, that is over $400,000 paid to Gregg. The income is also interesting to look at. $2.882 million for player registration fees; $478K for tournaments; $122K for apparel and spirit revenue; $77K for program management fee (assume this is SCCL); $44K for camp registration fees. projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/581569954/202230809349301063/full
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Post by mightydawg on May 23, 2023 10:39:26 GMT -5
They didn't even play the game of a real tryout for the first 30 minutes? Normally, clubs will have small sided scrimmages for the first 30 minutes or so with everyone mixed up and they will play several games. Then a water break. Then will take the previously identified (weeks ago, not at tryouts) and start grouping them together for small sided scrimmages and sending other kids to other fields for scrimmages. Then another water break. Then larger sided games with too many people in too little of a space. My favorite is 11 v. 11 on a 7 v 7 field. Night 2. Skip the small sided games and just scrimmage with too many people in too little of a space. Coaches mostly on phones. Night 3. Rinse and repeat. Isn't Night 2 Moving Day? Surely there is a better way to do tryout rather than moving them up and down fields... At the ECNL level, we have always had our spot either before tryouts or by the end of night one. There may be a spot or 2 left for night 2 in case superstar from rival club shows up on night 2 but there are not many at the top by that point.
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Post by mightydawg on May 23, 2023 10:05:19 GMT -5
They didn't even play the game of a real tryout for the first 30 minutes? Normally, clubs will have small sided scrimmages for the first 30 minutes or so with everyone mixed up and they will play several games. Then a water break. Then will take the previously identified (weeks ago, not at tryouts) and start grouping them together for small sided scrimmages and sending other kids to other fields for scrimmages. Then another water break. Then larger sided games with too many people in too little of a space. My favorite is 11 v. 11 on a 7 v 7 field. Night 2. Skip the small sided games and just scrimmage with too many people in too little of a space. Coaches mostly on phones. Night 3. Rinse and repeat. A lot of people give AFU grief but if they put their inflated egos aside and came out they would be surprised at what they see. Last night the first 15-20 mins were stretching then they were split into 5 teams of 12. They teams rotated field to field with the keepers staying put. The teams were sorted by 1-2-3-4-5 so all players of all skill level were blended. Sure some teams were stronger than others but it was not intentional. Anywhere from 3-4 coaches were on each field evaluating players. It would be nice if people with their inflated egos and pride took the time to see what else is out there instead of continuing to drink the Kool-Aid of these other places. Glad that you had a good experience with AFU. What age group were you watching last night? Who is the top team head coach? I have been to AFU ID camps and tryouts in previous years. How the ID camp and tryout are run are very dependent on the coach of the top team. I have seen it just as you described; I have seen it where the head guy already has his team set and leaves after 20 or 30 minutes; and I have seen it where they immediately break kids up into to perceived teams. Like most clubs, it all depends on who the coach is going to be.
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Post by mightydawg on May 23, 2023 9:45:01 GMT -5
I am not expecting my son to make their top team. We are coming from a different club and they do not know him. The coach that was "watching" his field was more interested in juggling a ball it seemed than watching what was going on. Got to show the parents that the kids are going to be coached a real soccer player.
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