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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 7:47:53 GMT -5
Assuming your coach has no coaching conflicts and has only "your" one team to worry about -- what is the standard for how early the coach should be arriving at the field prior to game time.
I personally think its 45 minutes and never should you have a situation where all the players are there waiting for the coach to arrive.
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Post by SoccerMom on Aug 24, 2015 8:06:07 GMT -5
Assuming your coach has no coaching conflicts and has only "your" one team to worry about -- what is the standard for how early the coach should be arriving at the field prior to game time. I personally think its 45 minutes and never should you have a situation where all the players are there waiting for the coach to arrive. The coach is usually there 5-10min before the kids are supposed to be there FYI, its very rare that you will find a coach that only has one team to worry about, most have 2 or 3. My daughter coach only had her team but again thats very rare. My son's coach actually has a Master schedule that the TM's put together where it lists his 3 teams so he doesnt have any conflicts. The academy games cant be moved around but the select ones can.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 8:15:06 GMT -5
Yes, I understand a lot of coaches coach more than one team, ours has 1 team. It was an early game and he was not covering for anyone else. He rolled in 30 minutes before kickoff, of the 8 teams playing, he was the only coach not there 45 minutes early.
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Post by rifle on Aug 24, 2015 8:15:45 GMT -5
I would expect a coach to set a standard and then meet it.
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Post by SoccerMom on Aug 24, 2015 8:24:01 GMT -5
Yes, I understand a lot of coaches coach more than one team, ours has 1 team. It was an early game and he was not covering for anyone else. He rolled in 30 minutes before kickoff, of the 8 teams playing, he was the only coach not there 45 minutes early. So your kids were supposed to be there 45 before and the coach was 15 minutes late?
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Post by Keeper on Aug 24, 2015 8:24:47 GMT -5
Most of our academy teams are told they need to be at the field 30 mins before kickoff so us coaches are there about 35 mins before. Classic/Athena are usually 45 - 60 mins prior. Guess it really depends on when he told the parents to show up?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 8:26:39 GMT -5
Yes, I understand a lot of coaches coach more than one team, ours has 1 team. It was an early game and he was not covering for anyone else. He rolled in 30 minutes before kickoff, of the 8 teams playing, he was the only coach not there 45 minutes early. So your kids were supposed to be there 45 before and the coach was 15 minutes late? Yes. And this isn't the first time......
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 24, 2015 8:28:58 GMT -5
An hour for me and the team prior to the game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 8:30:59 GMT -5
Yea, that's what I expected!! Its frustrating!
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Post by SoccerMom on Aug 24, 2015 8:35:10 GMT -5
So your kids were supposed to be there 45 before and the coach was 15 minutes late? Yes. And this isn't the first time...... Theres no standard of what time the coach needs to be there...every situation is diff, my daughter is an hour before unless its out of town then it can be 2-3 hours before. BUT if your coach is telling the kids to be there at 9.15 and he doesn't show up until 9.30 and its not an isolated incident but an ongoing problem, then you should complain to the DOC of your club
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Post by jash on Aug 24, 2015 8:40:51 GMT -5
It depends on the age as to what my expectation will be. Older players (U13+) with a good captain can be expected to do the preliminary warmups themselves. A coach might ask the players to be there early so they can have some 'team time' without the coach there, while they do the mundane jogging, jumping, stretching work.
I'd certainly talk to the coach with an open mind rather than an accusatory one. There may be a very good reason that involves increased player responsibility, which is a good thing.
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Post by rifle on Aug 24, 2015 9:05:05 GMT -5
Several people have made rational points. A soccer sideline is a place where it's easy to jump to conclusions.. often wrong ones.
Hopefully your first step was talking to the coach.. rather than to the soccer forum.
On the other hand, I once experienced a coach who failed to show up for a tournament..
and a coach who asked for pre-payment of extra training sessions (then failed to appear) so anything is possible.
All coaches are not as responsible as we would like. I hope you can work it out (if it is actually a problem).
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 24, 2015 9:15:40 GMT -5
In my opinion coaches set an example, and if the players are expected to be there 45 minutes prior to kickoff, he/she should be there 50 minutes before kickoff. (assuming all conflicts etc aside).
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Post by volunteercoach on Aug 24, 2015 9:59:37 GMT -5
Depends on the age...an hour for my older ones where I get there an hour before as well. They spend 10-15 mins getting gear on and juggling/passing while I set up for warm ups to begin at 45 before kickoff. Younger ones it depends on whether its a tourney or not. 45 mins standard where I am there 5 or so minutes before that.
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Post by rifle on Aug 24, 2015 12:00:09 GMT -5
The "right amount" of time is not a fixed amount. Many variables. Regardless, yes the coach should arrive on time.
When it's 90 degrees with high himidity, especially on a frying pan (artificial grass).. I'd rather they warm up for 20 minutes rather than start the game tired.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 24, 2015 12:03:42 GMT -5
The "right amount" of time is not a fixed amount. Many variables. Regardless, yes the coach should arrive on time. When it's 90 degrees with high himidity, especially on a frying pan (artificial grass).. I'd rather they warm up for 20 minutes rather than start the game tired. Agree, we often shift our arrival times to accommodate weather etc. However, if the coach says arrive 45 minutes early ready to play, I would expect him/her to be there as well unless they give the team a message prior that they will be arriving late for x,y,z reasons. Same is true if he/she says 20 minutes early, you would expect them there as well.
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Post by fan on Aug 24, 2015 15:02:43 GMT -5
Theres no standard of what time the coach needs to be there...every situation is diff, my daughter is an hour before unless its out of town then it can be 2-3 hours before. 2-3 hours??? Is that when they need to be in town or is that when they need to be in uniform ready to warm up?
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Post by SoccerMom on Aug 25, 2015 7:03:14 GMT -5
Theres no standard of what time the coach needs to be there...every situation is diff, my daughter is an hour before unless its out of town then it can be 2-3 hours before. 2-3 hours??? Is that when they need to be in town or is that when they need to be in uniform ready to warm up? Thats when they need to be in town. Its always an 45min for us before games
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Post by Kick Goals 10 on Aug 25, 2015 9:33:12 GMT -5
Our U14 team has always been 1 Hour prior...ready to go. Well that means 90 min for my daughter, as she has to be the 1st one there.
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Post by RedDevil10 on Aug 25, 2015 11:50:52 GMT -5
My son had a coach last year that would show up late to practice on a regular basis. As well as show up for games just before the start (assistant coaches warmed them up) or show up by halftime more than 4 times .
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Post by rifle on Aug 25, 2015 12:51:04 GMT -5
When that happened, I hope that you voted with your feet.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 25, 2015 20:38:44 GMT -5
My son had a coach last year that would show up late to practice on a regular basis. As well as show up for games just before the start (assistant coaches warmed them up) or show up by halftime more than 4 times . I know a certain coach at KSA like that
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Post by Keeper on Aug 25, 2015 21:30:27 GMT -5
My son had a coach last year that would show up late to practice on a regular basis. As well as show up for games just before the start (assistant coaches warmed them up) or show up by halftime more than 4 times . I know a certain coach at KSA like that Don't we all know a few clubs with coaches like this? The real question is what clubs don't have a coach or two like this.
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Post by RedDevil10 on Aug 25, 2015 21:38:04 GMT -5
My son had a coach last year that would show up late to practice on a regular basis. As well as show up for games just before the start (assistant coaches warmed them up) or show up by halftime more than 4 times . I know a certain coach at KSA like that Absolutely !!
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 26, 2015 7:53:48 GMT -5
I know a certain coach at KSA like that Don't we all know a few clubs with coaches like this? The real question is what clubs don't have a coach or two like this. I'm pretty biased but I think just about all the Tophat coaches are on time unless they are coming from another game.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 26, 2015 7:55:36 GMT -5
I know a certain coach at KSA like that Absolutely !! The same coach who demands discipline and respect, will make his players run if they are a minute late, keeps them beyond the end of practice time but yet is consistently late himself 70% of the time. Just guessing here.....
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Post by SoccerMom on Aug 26, 2015 8:01:51 GMT -5
Don't we all know a few clubs with coaches like this? The real question is what clubs don't have a coach or two like this. I'm pretty biased but I think just about all the Tophat coaches are on time unless they are coming from another game. I think you are a little biased....
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Post by SoccerMom on Aug 26, 2015 8:23:17 GMT -5
My son had a coach last year that would show up late to practice on a regular basis. As well as show up for games just before the start (assistant coaches warmed them up) or show up by halftime more than 4 times . I know a certain coach at KSA like that I get that you don't like a coach at KSA, not the first time you have mentioned this. But you wouldnt want me to call the TH coaches on the stuff I have seen right? No need to point fingers at anyone, thats what the other forum is for
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Post by soccerfan30 on Aug 26, 2015 9:27:00 GMT -5
It's not about not liking someone, I was simply responding to the poster and shared something I knew to be factual based on my prior personal experience and I didn't name anyone. There are all types of people at every club, that includes the club I am at. Wouldn't bother me if you shared an experience about Tophat, as long as I do things the right way, help my players and do right with my families what other people do has no bearing on me, so feel free to share if you feel the need.
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Post by SoccerMom on Aug 26, 2015 9:35:48 GMT -5
It's not about not liking someone, I was simply responding to the poster and shared something I knew to be factual based on my prior personal experience and I didn't name anyone. There are all types of people at every club, that includes the club I am at. Wouldn't bother me if you shared an experience about Tophat, as long as I do things the right way, help my players and do right with my families what other people do has no bearing on me, so feel free to share if you feel the need. No need, Im not here to judge anyone including you
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