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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 23:17:51 GMT -5
Re read my 2nd line..............You can "be" a member of Ga Soccer, you can play in Ga Soccer games (Athena/Classic), but it ends there....you can finish FIRST in the state, and then win State Cup, and you know what you will gain? ............NO national League. ..............No Pioneer Conference...... So, yes, you can play 12 regular season games but it will go no further. You are a member only in the sense you get to play some of the 39 members of Ga Soccer, but who will want to play those games when it means NOTHING? You can go 12-0 in Athena A, and you get nothing. I'm not saying Ga Soccer is right, I'm not saying US Club/SCCL is right (I have no clue who is right, if either is right), but I do know this: the Big 5 bowed up, Ga Soccer kicked them out, and now you MAY see VERY shortly a "big 5" club pull out and join a "smaller" club. You MAY see that sooner than you think. Of course,,,,,,,,,I COULD be wrong. I was wrong once in 1997:) PS: That is called humor.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 23:18:57 GMT -5
The big 5 are not out of GA Soccer. Their teams that do not play DA, ECNL, NPL, SCCL will still be part of Ga Soccer. Ga Soccer cant afford to lose that revenue from the big 5 If Big 5 is let go from GA Soccer, how much is that in loss revenue? Let’s see what comes out, @bigdawg your wrong on this one and we shall see about tomorrow in the DA or not 😃
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Post by sharks82 on May 5, 2018 23:25:46 GMT -5
You are making me laugh SC, I’ll give you that!
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 5:49:04 GMT -5
Update: US Club filing a grievance against Georgia Soccer for the Policy Change, however US Soccer legal has already told Georgia Soccer how to edit the Policy so it will not get overturned. With edits this policy change is going to stick. Super Y will be allowed this summer but next summer Georgia Soccer will provide a summer program for clubs to replace Super Y. My source has informed me that US Soccer rules specify that states cannot restrict clubs from participating in specific leagues. While Georgia Soccer would like to support the non-Big 5 clubs, there is no precedence to prohibit the Big 5 from participating in the National League. This type of league structure is already in existence in other states and regions so creating new language in opposition of that would take time. The reality is that tryouts are less than a month away so any changes should be made thoughtfully. Further edits to the policy can be developed over the next year to avoid any surprises for players or parents this fall. Georgia Soccer has already been told by US Soccer legal department exactly how to change the wording so that it cannot be overturned. It should be obvious by now to all involved with youth soccer in one of the higher leagues that US Soccer and US Club are at war. These top end leagues are all fighting for the same top teams and clubs. You are guaranteed more of these moves like Georgia Soccer will occur across the country and more organizations will force clubs to pick a path. You can take your club down the US Club path or the US Youth path. It’s your (club) decision. Simple just make a choice and move on
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 5:52:41 GMT -5
The funny part here is that some people think Georgia Soccer should just be a door mat. US Club leagues are exclusive. US Club is eroding Georgia Soccer’s League. Why anyone is surprised that Georgia Soccer is fighting back is beyond me.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 6, 2018 6:25:40 GMT -5
The funny part here is that some people think Georgia Soccer should just be a door mat. US Club leagues are exclusive. US Club is eroding Georgia Soccer’s League. Why anyone is surprised that Georgia Soccer is fighting back is beyond me. I don't think they should be a door mat, but this fight is hurting our children. Negotiation between US Youth Soccer and US Club soccer where everyone tries to do what is best for the kids and the game in this country should be the goal. Everyone has trashed USSF for not getting together with US Club about ECNL and now they are just encouraging US Youth Soccer to fight against US Club for the kids one (or more) level (s) down? Competition can be healthy and have improved quality of service to consumers, but collaboration would be even better. This fight makes me think of cable companies. They aren't really competing directly to the consumer, they are competing for an area (in this case a club) who are not the actual consumers. It does not work out well for the consumers for cable companies so I don't have high hopes that we (the parents and players) will be the winners in this thing. We are just pawns.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 7:41:21 GMT -5
The funny part here is that some people think Georgia Soccer should just be a door mat. US Club leagues are exclusive. US Club is eroding Georgia Soccer’s League. Why anyone is surprised that Georgia Soccer is fighting back is beyond me. I don't think they should be a door mat, but this fight is hurting our children. Negotiation between US Youth Soccer and US Club soccer where everyone tries to do what is best for the kids and the game in this country should be the goal. Everyone has trashed USSF for not getting together with US Club about ECNL and now they are just encouraging US Youth Soccer to fight against US Club for the kids one (or more) level (s) down? Competition can be healthy and have improved quality of service to consumers, but collaboration would be even better. This fight makes me think of cable companies. They aren't really competing directly to the consumer, they are competing for an area (in this case a club) who are not the actual consumers. It does not work out well for the consumers for cable companies so I don't have high hopes that we (the parents and players) will be the winners in this thing. We are just pawns. How is this hurting children? You want US Club leagues play at Big 6. You want US Youth leagues then pack your whole team up and move to the nearest non-US Club club This is the future and you might as well get use to it
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 7:43:03 GMT -5
The funny part here is that some people think Georgia Soccer should just be a door mat. US Club leagues are exclusive. US Club is eroding Georgia Soccer’s League. Why anyone is surprised that Georgia Soccer is fighting back is beyond me. I don't think they should be a door mat, but this fight is hurting our children. Negotiation between US Youth Soccer and US Club soccer where everyone tries to do what is best for the kids and the game in this country should be the goal. Everyone has trashed USSF for not getting together with US Club about ECNL and now they are just encouraging US Youth Soccer to fight against US Club for the kids one (or more) level (s) down? Competition can be healthy and have improved quality of service to consumers, but collaboration would be even better. This fight makes me think of cable companies. They aren't really competing directly to the consumer, they are competing for an area (in this case a club) who are not the actual consumers. It does not work out well for the consumers for cable companies so I don't have high hopes that we (the parents and players) will be the winners in this thing. We are just pawns. But none of this would have happened if the Big 6 hadn’t pushed Georgia Soccer by creating their own league. Georgia Soccer is not dumb they know that the Big 6 will next create more leagues and move all their kids out of Georgia Soccer.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 8:13:30 GMT -5
Let me put it in english....... If you are not a member of Ga Soccer, you may enter State Cup, BUT you will not be allowed to advance to the new RPL/NL............................................ You all wanted specifics from me? There you go. Specifics. The Big 5 chose to be out of Ga Soccer, now they get their wish. Choose wisely The big 5 are not out of GA Soccer. Their teams that do not play DA, ECNL, NPL, SCCL will still be part of Ga Soccer. Ga Soccer cant afford to lose that revenue from the big 5 I agree they are not currently out of Georgia Soccer but it is now only a matter of time. Within 2-5 years, the Big 6 will represent US Club (and DA) and will no longer participate in Georgia Soccer and US Youth Soccer.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 6, 2018 8:33:37 GMT -5
The big 5 are not out of GA Soccer. Their teams that do not play DA, ECNL, NPL, SCCL will still be part of Ga Soccer. Ga Soccer cant afford to lose that revenue from the big 5 I agree they are not currently out of Georgia Soccer but it is now only a matter of time. Within 2-5 years, the Big 6 will represent US Club (and DA) and will no longer participate in Georgia Soccer and US Youth Soccer. GA Soccer is playing both sides is all I'm saying....
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 8:41:21 GMT -5
I agree they are not currently out of Georgia Soccer but it is now only a matter of time. Within 2-5 years, the Big 6 will represent US Club (and DA) and will no longer participate in Georgia Soccer and US Youth Soccer. GA Soccer is playing both sides is all I'm saying.... Looks to me more like Georgia Soccer is taking preemptive moves against their new competitors. The Big 6 are Georgia Soccer’s competition. If a coach left one of the Big 6 and started their own club then that Big 6 club would vigerously attack said coach and his new club.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 6, 2018 8:46:51 GMT -5
GA Soccer is playing both sides is all I'm saying.... Looks to me more like Georgia Soccer is taking preemptive moves against their new competitors. The Big 6 are Georgia Soccer’s competition. If a coach left one of the Big 6 and started their own club then that Big 6 club would vigerously attack said coach and his new club. Nah, Georgia Soccer just acted to please the non big 5, knowing that the wording was not good enough. And then they're not the big bad guy. If GA Soccer cared, they would have stepped in long time when ECNL first came around and set up rules like their players not being able to play in State Cup. If GA Soccer cared they would have listened to the clubs with the frustrating RPL. If GA Soccer cared they would actually do their job and do what is best for the kids and not take sides. They're supposed to be arbitrary, but $$$ is just too loud. And btw the big 5 are not attacking any clubs, I believe its the other way around.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 8:58:44 GMT -5
Looks to me more like Georgia Soccer is taking preemptive moves against their new competitors. The Big 6 are Georgia Soccer’s competition. If a coach left one of the Big 6 and started their own club then that Big 6 club would vigerously attack said coach and his new club. Nah, Georgia Soccer just acted to please the non big 5, knowing that the wording was not good enough. And then they're not the big bad guy. If GA Soccer cared, they would have stepped in long time when ECNL first came around and set up rules like their players not being able to play in State Cup. If GA Soccer cared they would have listened to the clubs with the frustrating RPL. If GA Soccer cared they would actually do their job and do what is best for the kids and not take sides. They're supposed to be arbitrary, but $$$ is just too loud. And btw the big 5 are not attacking any clubs, I believe its the other way around. Here’s the problem, no one believes that. Everyone believes the Big 6 are leaving Georgia Soccer. Its happening across the entire country. Georgia Soccer can be door mat and allow these big DOCs to take advantage of them or they can move now.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 6, 2018 9:07:54 GMT -5
Nah, Georgia Soccer just acted to please the non big 5, knowing that the wording was not good enough. And then they're not the big bad guy. If GA Soccer cared, they would have stepped in long time when ECNL first came around and set up rules like their players not being able to play in State Cup. If GA Soccer cared they would have listened to the clubs with the frustrating RPL. If GA Soccer cared they would actually do their job and do what is best for the kids and not take sides. They're supposed to be arbitrary, but $$$ is just too loud. And btw the big 5 are not attacking any clubs, I believe its the other way around. Here’s the problem, no one believes that. Everyone believes the Big 6 are leaving Georgia Soccer. Its happening across the entire country. Georgia Soccer can be door mat and allow these big DOCs to take advantage of them or they can move now. It seems you are the only one that believe theyre "leaving" GA soccer. Georgia Soccer is allowing themselves to be used as a doormat by some clubs on the non big 5. They need to grow a pair and stand up to ALL clubs and try to fix this mess. Kids are being hurt in the process and GA Soccer doesn't care. At the end of they day they still get their money.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 9:16:41 GMT -5
Here’s the problem, no one believes that. Everyone believes the Big 6 are leaving Georgia Soccer. Its happening across the entire country. Georgia Soccer can be door mat and allow these big DOCs to take advantage of them or they can move now. It seems you are the only one that believe theyre "leaving" GA soccer. Georgia Soccer is allowing themselves to be used as a doormat by some clubs on the non big 5. They need to grow a pair and stand up to ALL clubs and try to fix this mess. Kids are being hurt in the process and GA Soccer doesn't care. At the end of they day they still get their money. Lol. You use as your proof the posting of forum members from UFA. That’s hilarious. Big 6 are on a path to separate from Georgia Soccer. Good for them. Market competition is good for parents. Parents can stay with Big 5 and do the US Club Development path or parents can move to US Youth Soccer based clubs and go down the US Youth development plan.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 6, 2018 9:37:56 GMT -5
It seems you are the only one that believe theyre "leaving" GA soccer. Georgia Soccer is allowing themselves to be used as a doormat by some clubs on the non big 5. They need to grow a pair and stand up to ALL clubs and try to fix this mess. Kids are being hurt in the process and GA Soccer doesn't care. At the end of they day they still get their money. Lol. You use as your proof the posting of forum members from UFA. That’s hilarious. Big 6 are on a path to separate from Georgia Soccer. Good for them. Market competition is good for parents. Parents can stay with Big 5 and do the US Club Development path or parents can move to US Youth Soccer based clubs and go down the US Youth development plan. And you have an agenda... You are definitely not who you claim to be, but I have an idea of who you may be.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 9:44:29 GMT -5
I think 411 is a member of the group representing AllIn/Impact/Roswell/Ambush.
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Post by rifle on May 6, 2018 9:47:30 GMT -5
He spells too well to be (a particular) one of those...
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 10:03:32 GMT -5
Lol. You use as your proof the posting of forum members from UFA. That’s hilarious. Big 6 are on a path to separate from Georgia Soccer. Good for them. Market competition is good for parents. Parents can stay with Big 5 and do the US Club Development path or parents can move to US Youth Soccer based clubs and go down the US Youth development plan. And you have an agenda... You are definitely not who you claim to be, but I have an idea of who you may be. lol and you expect me to believe you do not have an agenda Big 5 are going US Club and it’s only a matter of time. Georgia Soccer moves to make it difficult for them. Market becomes more competitive and parents win. Whats happening is inevitable unless Big 5 reverse course but we both know they will not reverse course. Good news is that most of these clubs will now have to fight harder to make parents happy.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 6, 2018 10:11:30 GMT -5
And you have an agenda... You are definitely not who you claim to be, but I have an idea of who you may be. lol and you expect me to believe you do not have an agenda Big 5 are going US Club and it’s only a matter of time. Georgia Soccer moves to make it difficult for them. Market becomes more competitive and parents win. Whats happening is inevitable unless Big 5 reverse course but we both know they will not reverse course. Good news is that most of these clubs will now have to fight harder to make parents happy. I don't have an agenda. My pockets are not getting lined. I could care less what other parents do, I will do what I think its best for my kids, whatever league that may be. All you have done in this forum is show how hurt you are that you were not invited to be part of the big 5. You are so blinded by your bias you are not seeing it. Georgia Soccer didn't change it on their own, the non big 5 pressured them to change the wording to exclude the big 5. I believe you are part of the Little 5 (KSA, Impact, AllIn, Smyrna, and GA storm.)
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Post by newposter on May 6, 2018 10:15:56 GMT -5
What's going to happen to teams not in DA, ECNL or the new Champions League replacing RPL from the Big 5? i.e. all those in select leagues?
I'm still curious why doesn't fit in either group? Leadership or lack of?
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Post by newposter on May 6, 2018 10:16:29 GMT -5
AFU fit in either group?
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 10:17:15 GMT -5
lol and you expect me to believe you do not have an agenda Big 5 are going US Club and it’s only a matter of time. Georgia Soccer moves to make it difficult for them. Market becomes more competitive and parents win. Whats happening is inevitable unless Big 5 reverse course but we both know they will not reverse course. Good news is that most of these clubs will now have to fight harder to make parents happy. I don't have an agenda. My pockets are not getting lined. I could care less what other parents do, I will do what I think its best for my kids, whatever league that may be. All you have done in this forum is show how hurt you are that you were not invited to be part of the big 5. You are so blinded by your bias you are not seeing it. Georgia Soccer didn't change it on their own, the non big 5 pressured them to change the wording to exclude the big 5. I believe you are part of the Little 5 (KSA, Impact, AllIn, Smyrna, and GA storm.) Lol. I don’t believe you. You have an agenda otherwise you would have acknowledged the reality is this good. im not part of Big 6 that part is right. I could careless who is or isn’t invited to the SCCL. I think I’ve made it quite clear that for my kids age group the SCCL competition looks at best like Classic I. Its clear that the Big 6 are in a staged plan to move to USClub. I think that’s great. Create market competition it will drive down fees, increase club’s efforts to please parents and ultimately lead to clubs pulling more kids into the sport of soccer.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 10:36:42 GMT -5
Only thing I know is AFU is keeping ECNL and will also be in the revamped National League
Who knows how it will all shake out
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Post by SoccerMom on May 6, 2018 10:39:24 GMT -5
I don't have an agenda. My pockets are not getting lined. I could care less what other parents do, I will do what I think its best for my kids, whatever league that may be. All you have done in this forum is show how hurt you are that you were not invited to be part of the big 5. You are so blinded by your bias you are not seeing it. Georgia Soccer didn't change it on their own, the non big 5 pressured them to change the wording to exclude the big 5. I believe you are part of the Little 5 (KSA, Impact, AllIn, Smyrna, and GA storm.) Lol. I don’t believe you. You have an agenda otherwise you would have acknowledged the reality is this good. im not part of Big 6 that part is right. I could careless who is or isn’t invited to the SCCL. I think I’ve made it quite clear that for my kids age group the SCCL competition looks at best like Classic I. Its clear that the Big 6 are in a staged plan to move to USClub. I think that’s great. Create market competition it will drive down fees, increase club’s efforts to please parents and ultimately lead to clubs pulling more kids into the sport of soccer. Believe what you want. My ONLY agenda is my kids, and they will play in whichever league serves their needs. Whether its US Soccer, USYS or US Club. And those who know me....know I am not a fan of US Club. But having had done SRPL for years and seeing how poorly it was run, then why not try something different? I am still going to pay way too much $$ but I would like a better return. And yes, you do care A LOT about who was invited and who wasn't. It has been evident from your 1st post. At the end of the day GA Soccer and the Little 5 don't care about the kids, if they did, they wouldn't punish them if they rightfully win Athena A or Classic 1. And you can say "oh well they can just change clubs". That's outright blackmail from the Little 5. Guess what...GA soccer still get their $$, 90% of kids will still be registered in Ga Soccer. Why are the little 5 so scared of competition? Is it you are worried that their 4th team will beat your 1st team? Why does it bother you that some teams want to try something different? You are not thinking with your head but your heart, and the kids will suffer at the end.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 10:46:38 GMT -5
Lol. I don’t believe you. You have an agenda otherwise you would have acknowledged the reality is this good. im not part of Big 6 that part is right. I could careless who is or isn’t invited to the SCCL. I think I’ve made it quite clear that for my kids age group the SCCL competition looks at best like Classic I. Its clear that the Big 6 are in a staged plan to move to USClub. I think that’s great. Create market competition it will drive down fees, increase club’s efforts to please parents and ultimately lead to clubs pulling more kids into the sport of soccer. Believe what you want. My ONLY agenda is my kids, and they will play in whichever league serves their needs. Whether its US Soccer, USYS or US Club. And those who know me....know I am not a fan of US Club. But having had done SRPL for years and seeing how poorly it was run, then why not try something different? I am still going to pay way too much $$ but I would like a better return. And yes, you do care A LOT about who was invited and who wasn't. It has been evident from your 1st post. At the end of the day GA Soccer and the Little 5 don't care about the kids, if they did, they wouldn't punish them if they rightfully win Athena A or Classic 1. And you can say "oh well they can just change clubs". That's outright blackmail from the Little 5. Guess what...GA soccer still get their $$, 90% of kids will still be registered in Ga Soccer. Why are the little 5 so scared of competition? Is it you are worried that their 4th team will beat your 1st team? Why does it bother you that some teams want to try something different? You are not thinking with your head but your heart, and the kids will suffer at the end. That’s not a problem at all. In the near future those teams can move to one of the Little 5/others and play RPL. All is well. As the Big 6 move fully to US Club over the long run it will no longer be an issue at all. Parents will all benefit from the increased competition. Ultimately this is all very good for your children and mine. but you aren’t arguing for your kids. My guess is you work for one of the Big 6 and all this added competition scares the Big 6. It was a big move when you guys decided to start the move to US Club. Well it’s done now. Own it and move on. btw hilarious that you argue how RPL sucks and then you argue how it needs to still be there for Big 6 teams.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 6, 2018 10:54:10 GMT -5
I don't have an agenda. My pockets are not getting lined. I could care less what other parents do, I will do what I think its best for my kids, whatever league that may be. All you have done in this forum is show how hurt you are that you were not invited to be part of the big 5. You are so blinded by your bias you are not seeing it. Georgia Soccer didn't change it on their own, the non big 5 pressured them to change the wording to exclude the big 5. I believe you are part of the Little 5 (KSA, Impact, AllIn, Smyrna, and GA storm.) Lol. I don’t believe you. You have an agenda otherwise you would have acknowledged the reality is this good. im not part of Big 6 that part is right. I could careless who is or isn’t invited to the SCCL. I think I’ve made it quite clear that for my kids age group the SCCL competition looks at best like Classic I. Its clear that the Big 6 are in a staged plan to move to USClub. I think that’s great. Create market competition it will drive down fees, increase club’s efforts to please parents and ultimately lead to clubs pulling more kids into the sport of soccer. Open market competition is good. This is not an open market though. People are not choosing US Club or US Youth. People are choosing a club and which league they participate in is a secondary issue. People choose a club for the coaches, the proximity/accessibility, the training methods, maybe even the times of practices. For example, I have a friend with a fantastic little player as her kid. They live inside the perimeter. Early on she considered sending her kid to Tophat, but the practices were going to be at 4pm. Really? 4 pm? How many people can get their kids to Buckhead at 4 pm? Not me! We struggle to get my younger one to practice at 5pm at a location 45 minutes closer to us. It would be IMPOSSIBLE to get our kid to Tophat. Some other poster talked about GSA North and South and AFU all of which are some distance from his house but those are the CLOSEST places. Another friend is planning to keep her kid at UFA because they love the coach who will have her on his team. She is a player with a lot of options too. Parents have flexible enough jobs to go anywhere. If we stay at the big 5 club where we currently are it will not be because of or in spite of US Club and the new league. It will be because of the coach (an honest and great communicator) and the logistics. I do feel like there is a lot of emotional reaction from the non-big 5 clubs and AFU frankly. It is as if they perceive this as a threat. The reason why I think it is not good for the kids that US Club and US Youth are fighting is because each appear to want to exclude the other which goes against the open pyramid concept that I think is good for the PLAYERS. Don't say that staying in Georgia Soccer is an open system. It is not open as long as you exclude clubs for any reason! It hurts both sides of this issue. This only time it will be open is in tournaments but if smaller clubs boycott those big 5 tournaments then that won't be open either.
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 6, 2018 10:55:20 GMT -5
Since you argue both against RPL and for RPL, You confirm the belief that this move by the Big 6 was a power grab. They wanted to remove Georgia Soccer from the middle and keep more money for themselves.
But let’s not beat around the bush, let’s bump up the time table. Big 6 plan to migrate all of the teams to US Club, so let’s do it now. Good for competition and creates a perfect separation now. Divorce is ugly, let’s get it done quickly.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 6, 2018 11:01:33 GMT -5
Since you argue both against RPL and for RPL, You confirm the belief that this move by the Big 6 was a power grab. They wanted to remove Georgia Soccer from the middle and keep more money for themselves. But let’s not beat around the bush, let’s bump up the time table. Big 6 plan to migrate all of the teams to US Club, so let’s do it now. Good for competition and creates a perfect separation now. Divorce is ugly, let’s get it done quickly. I am not sure if you are addressing Soccermom or me, but I have no issue with RPL personally. My oldest is just getting to the age where that is an option. Others have said it is poorly run. Many others. But Georgia Soccer is not RPL. Georgia Soccer is Athena and Classic. I am not arguing for RPL. I am arguing that an open pyramid system is not in existence any more and that is only getting worse. I think everyone should come together and consider what is right for the kids. That is not happening by Club or Youth Soccer leadership.
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Post by SoccerMom on May 6, 2018 11:05:58 GMT -5
Believe what you want. My ONLY agenda is my kids, and they will play in whichever league serves their needs. Whether its US Soccer, USYS or US Club. And those who know me....know I am not a fan of US Club. But having had done SRPL for years and seeing how poorly it was run, then why not try something different? I am still going to pay way too much $$ but I would like a better return. And yes, you do care A LOT about who was invited and who wasn't. It has been evident from your 1st post. At the end of the day GA Soccer and the Little 5 don't care about the kids, if they did, they wouldn't punish them if they rightfully win Athena A or Classic 1. And you can say "oh well they can just change clubs". That's outright blackmail from the Little 5. Guess what...GA soccer still get their $$, 90% of kids will still be registered in Ga Soccer. Why are the little 5 so scared of competition? Is it you are worried that their 4th team will beat your 1st team? Why does it bother you that some teams want to try something different? You are not thinking with your head but your heart, and the kids will suffer at the end. That’s not a problem at all. In the near future those teams can move to one of the Little 5/others and play RPL. All is well. As the Big 6 move fully to US Club over the long run it will no longer be an issue at all. Parents will all benefit from the increased competition. Ultimately this is all very good for your children and mine. but you aren’t arguing for your kids. My guess is you work for one of the Big 6 and all this added competition scares the Big 6. It was a big move when you guys decided to start the move to US Club. Well it’s done now. Own it and move on. btw hilarious that you argue how RPL sucks and then you argue how it needs to still be there for Big 6 teams. I don't work for any club, if I did I would be making the big bucks like you. Im arguing that the true competition is to allow whoever wins to move to the next level. Not give a participation trophy
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