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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 10, 2018 11:50:59 GMT -5
In NL they could have place teams in Piedmont Conference and Sunshine Conference and the the traditional top layer National League. Nearly unlimited ability for Concorde to scale. They trade that and GDA for SCCL. Not sure but I don’t think they chose to get rid of GDA. Maybe, but I think it was more involuntary. Secondly, there is a reality check in how many teams they can place in RPL/NL. This season they had 3 girls teams total in RPL who won a total of 6 games. No teams participated in NL. Not sure about boys. So Concorde could have looked at it as a choice of a few teams in USYS leagues or guaranteed 7 teams in SCCL. Agree but if they are pushing GDA teams down and then pushing ECNL teams down from ECNL, then I would think those ECNL would be dominate in NL. It will be a joke with them in SCCL where the competition is Athena A/Athena B level. But maybe Concorde is assuming those GDA kids will go to NTH and UFA. I guess it makes sense that NTH and UFA will be huge winners out of this. It is interesting that NTH and UFA are going to loot Concorde players dropping out of GDA while at same time being business partners with NTH and UFA in SCCL. |
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Post by 04gparent on May 10, 2018 12:20:05 GMT -5
Not sure but I don’t think they chose to get rid of GDA. Maybe, but I think it was more involuntary. Secondly, there is a reality check in how many teams they can place in RPL/NL. This season they had 3 girls teams total in RPL who won a total of 6 games. No teams participated in NL. Not sure about boys. So Concorde could have looked at it as a choice of a few teams in USYS leagues or guaranteed 7 teams in SCCL. Agree but if they are pushing GDA teams down and then pushing ECNL teams down from ECNL, then I would think those ECNL would be dominate in NL. It will be a joke with them in SCCL where the competition is Athena A/Athena B level. But maybe Concorde is assuming those GDA kids will go to NTH and UFA. I guess it makes sense that NTH and UFA will be huge winners out of this. It is interesting that NTH and UFA are going to loot Concorde players dropping out of GDA while at same time being business partners with NTH and UFA in SCCL. First of all even though it is a foregone conclusion on this site, Concorde has not announced they will give up GDA. Secondly depending on the age group i dont think many Concorde GDA players can make the TH GDA teams. Maybe 2 or 3 tops if they choose to go there. Alot of parents at Concorde dont like TH and wouldnt consider taking their daughter there... Not sure about GDA at UFA so I cant chime in there... The next couple of weeks will be interesting... Typically the clubs announce the next year's team between now and Tryouts... |
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 10, 2018 12:29:07 GMT -5
Agree but if they are pushing GDA teams down and then pushing ECNL teams down from ECNL, then I would think those ECNL would be dominate in NL. It will be a joke with them in SCCL where the competition is Athena A/Athena B level. But maybe Concorde is assuming those GDA kids will go to NTH and UFA. I guess it makes sense that NTH and UFA will be huge winners out of this. It is interesting that NTH and UFA are going to loot Concorde players dropping out of GDA while at same time being business partners with NTH and UFA in SCCL. First of all even though it is a foregone conclusion on this site, Concorde has not announced they will give up GDA. Secondly depending on the age group i dont think many Concorde GDA players can make the TH GDA teams. Maybe 2 or 3 tops if they choose to go there. Alot of parents at Concorde dont like TH and wouldnt consider taking their daughter there... Not sure about GDA at UFA so I cant chime in there... The next couple of weeks will be interesting... Typically the clubs announce the next year's team between now and Tryouts... I understand but Concorde players aren’t going to just sit around and hope that the rumors are false. NTH and UFA coaches are probably hounding them every day via phone, text and email. If Concorde lost GDA then you can expect a wholesale slaughter of Concorde this summer during tryouts. And those players won’t be going to the Little clubs. They will head straight to Concorde SCCL partners. |
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Post by fridge on May 10, 2018 13:06:48 GMT -5
Based on all I have read/heard, CF GDA is done. CF will get two teams in ECNL for the next couple of years so they don't have to cut any ecnl kids after GDA kids drop down. I highly doubt there will be much if any movement from CF GDA kids in the 01, 02 and 03 age groups. 100% of the class of 2019 00/01s are committed heading into their sr year and 75% of the class of 2020 01s/02s are committed. And so, they have no reason to switch clubs as those ECNL teams will be really strong next year. I think we are all in concurrence that w/ top clubs like Hawks, Eclipse, PDA, etc all-in on ECNL, it is now hard to argue which is better--DA or ECNL. If I had an 04 or later, that may be a little tougher question especially if you think the federation has the resources to win in the "long" run. So far, however, it seems that ECNL is outmaneuvering DA (or perhaps better to say that DA's hubris prevents it from making ECNL irrelevant).
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Post by georgiasoccer411 on May 10, 2018 13:40:28 GMT -5
Based on all I have read/heard, CF GDA is done. CF will get two teams in ECNL for the next couple of years so they don't have to cut any ecnl kids after GDA kids drop down. I highly doubt there will be much if any movement from CF GDA kids in the 01, 02 and 03 age groups. 100% of the class of 2019 00/01s are committed heading into their sr year and 75% of the class of 2020 01s/02s are committed. And so, they have no reason to switch clubs as those ECNL teams will be really strong next year. I think we are all in concurrence that w/ top clubs like Hawks, Eclipse, PDA, etc all-in on ECNL, it is now hard to argue which is better--DA or ECNL. If I had an 04 or later, that may be a little tougher question especially if you think the federation has the resources to win in the "long" run. So far, however, it seems that ECNL is outmaneuvering DA (or perhaps better to say that DA's hubris prevents it from making ECNL irrelevant). Yes but at NTH players would still have a club with both DA and ECNL. This will be interesting to watch how things shape up after tryouts. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 10, 2018 17:10:51 GMT -5
Based on all I have read/heard, CF GDA is done. CF will get two teams in ECNL for the next couple of years so they don't have to cut any ecnl kids after GDA kids drop down. I highly doubt there will be much if any movement from CF GDA kids in the 01, 02 and 03 age groups. 100% of the class of 2019 00/01s are committed heading into their sr year and 75% of the class of 2020 01s/02s are committed. And so, they have no reason to switch clubs as those ECNL teams will be really strong next year. I think we are all in concurrence that w/ top clubs like Hawks, Eclipse, PDA, etc all-in on ECNL, it is now hard to argue which is better--DA or ECNL. If I had an 04 or later, that may be a little tougher question especially if you think the federation has the resources to win in the "long" run. So far, however, it seems that ECNL is outmaneuvering DA (or perhaps better to say that DA's hubris prevents it from making ECNL irrelevant). 03 girls are current 8th and 9th graders. They have plenty of time left and many would consider moving. No one really knows yet if GDA will end up the top dog or ECNL. There are serious issues with GDA with the sub rules that upset a lot of kids and parents. It will take time for the whole situation to settle down for everyone. If the parents and kids perceive GDA as being better than ECNL they will move. If they don't or maybe they like their coach or maybe they want to play high school then they may stay. Younger kids are going to move IMO. You are right that the 00 and 01 and maybe 02 will probably not move as much, but ego is a powerful thing so we will see. |
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Post by afu on May 14, 2018 14:19:10 GMT -5
Also I would not worry if your team does not get sccl. you are probably better off. Maybe, but what WILL suck is if you stay in Athena A and win it, but have no where to advance. Promotion/Relegation is sadly gone. Geez, WTH has happened with youth soccer? Sad days... |
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Post by afu on May 14, 2018 14:24:26 GMT -5
I think this sets up well for AFU --MAYBE.
First, they are eligible play in the NL, so for those girls who are borderline ECNL and don't quite make an ECNL roster, they can at least compete on a strong Athena A since other good players hypothetically will be going there. This would give them the chance to promote into the regional Piedmont.
I guess the question parents who live in the AFU area may want to ask is this: is it better to be on an Athena A team out of the big 5, and knowing that even if you win State Cup you cannot move into the NL.
But if you play at AFU and finish high enough , you can enjoy the experience of moving on to regional play.
Each parent will have to make that decision for themselves.
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Post by oldboy on May 14, 2018 15:34:22 GMT -5
Agree but if they are pushing GDA teams down and then pushing ECNL teams down from ECNL, then I would think those ECNL would be dominate in NL. It will be a joke with them in SCCL where the competition is Athena A/Athena B level. But maybe Concorde is assuming those GDA kids will go to NTH and UFA. I guess it makes sense that NTH and UFA will be huge winners out of this. It is interesting that NTH and UFA are going to loot Concorde players dropping out of GDA while at same time being business partners with NTH and UFA in SCCL. First of all even though it is a foregone conclusion on this site, Concorde has not announced they will give up GDA. Secondly depending on the age group i dont think many Concorde GDA players can make the TH GDA teams. Maybe 2 or 3 tops if they choose to go there. Alot of parents at Concorde dont like TH and wouldnt consider taking their daughter there... Not sure about GDA at UFA so I cant chime in there... The next couple of weeks will be interesting... Typically the clubs announce the next year's team between now and Tryouts... I'm not a Concorde person, but it's crazy to say that the current GDA kids at Concorde couldn't make the rosters at NTH. Concorde's DA teams have an amazing level of talent in them and the most likely result of a wave of Concorde kids going to NTH DA try-outs is that the resulting teams would be about half and half and contain more national team players than any other team in the country. To suggest that only 2-3 Concorde kids would make the teams is absurd. |
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Post by 04gparent on May 16, 2018 8:42:55 GMT -5
First of all even though it is a foregone conclusion on this site, Concorde has not announced they will give up GDA. Secondly depending on the age group i dont think many Concorde GDA players can make the TH GDA teams. Maybe 2 or 3 tops if they choose to go there. Alot of parents at Concorde dont like TH and wouldnt consider taking their daughter there... Not sure about GDA at UFA so I cant chime in there... The next couple of weeks will be interesting... Typically the clubs announce the next year's team between now and Tryouts... I'm not a Concorde person, but it's crazy to say that the current GDA kids at Concorde couldn't make the rosters at NTH. Concorde's DA teams have an amazing level of talent in them and the most likely result of a wave of Concorde kids going to NTH DA try-outs is that the resulting teams would be about half and half and contain more national team players than any other team in the country. To suggest that only 2-3 Concorde kids would make the teams is absurd. I wasnt trying to disrespect someon or the team. I was just offering my opinion. Clearly Concorde has talented players. Clearly its a feather in any clubs cap to have national team players. The point I was attempting to make is most of the players will not want to change clubs. Of those that do only 2 or 3 will make. Most will not want to change teams.. Its just my opinion.. Maybe I;m off my rocker... |
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