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Post by cleansheet on Jul 22, 2019 19:53:39 GMT -5
The fall 2019 schedule is out on the SCCL website. When looking at the U12s, ATLUTD isn’t listed with the other teams in the table.
Is ATLUTD still committed to u12 SCCL? Their logo is still on the SCCL website.
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Post by soccerdad76 on Jul 22, 2019 21:31:46 GMT -5
Wondering the same. Not sure what they will do with their 08 group otherwise, though. Looking at the schedule for our club there are plenty of weekends with 0 or 1 game(s), so it shouldn’t be hard to add them in.
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Post by soccerworld1974 on Jul 24, 2019 5:38:28 GMT -5
Where can I see the brackets and schedule for SCCL?
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 24, 2019 6:21:40 GMT -5
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Post by footyfan on Jul 26, 2019 16:11:48 GMT -5
Could they be playing in the USL Academy league?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 30, 2019 18:14:12 GMT -5
Did anyone clarify their absence from the schedule?
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Post by cleansheet on Jul 30, 2019 22:29:39 GMT -5
Did anyone clarify their absence from the schedule? Nope. Also the second u12 SCCL UFA team isn’t in the table. Anyone know why? |
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Post by cleansheet on Jul 30, 2019 22:30:35 GMT -5
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Post by soccerdad76 on Jul 31, 2019 6:44:49 GMT -5
Did anyone clarify their absence from the schedule? Nope. Also the second u12 SCCL UFA team isn’t in the table. Anyone know why? Only three of the clubs so far have two teams listed. I assume once the schedule takes shape with times they will be added. Or maybe it won’t matter since the teams can be fluid playing from a pool like it was for U12 DA last year. Also the club games are supposed to be back-to-back. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jul 31, 2019 7:40:48 GMT -5
In the beginning of looking at stuff there were only like 8-9 games scheduled for my son's team in his age group, but as the weeks progressed the other clubs got added on.
I assume whatever is going on here is similar. I assume they will still play in there and it will be fixed before 9/8 which is the start of the season.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 31, 2019 8:48:08 GMT -5
Did anyone clarify their absence from the schedule? Nope. Also the second u12 SCCL UFA team isn’t in the table. Anyone know why? Its my understanding that by the last night of tryouts they realized that they wouldn't have the depth or the numbers to put a competitive squad in the league. Many of the top 12s will be playing up with the 13s because of this also. |
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 31, 2019 9:58:25 GMT -5
Nope. Also the second u12 SCCL UFA team isn’t in the table. Anyone know why? Only three of the clubs so far have two teams listed. I assume once the schedule takes shape with times they will be added. Or maybe it won’t matter since the teams can be fluid playing from a pool like it was for U12 DA last year. Actually, if you click on a game, it shows two games for each club on the same day. For example, on the boys schedule on Saturday, August 31st, CESA has two games against VHSC, match 1115 and 1171. Likewise, Concorde is playing NASA in match 1117 and 1172. |
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Post by soccernotfootball on Jul 31, 2019 10:19:39 GMT -5
Nope. Also the second u12 SCCL UFA team isn’t in the table. Anyone know why? Its my understanding that by the last night of tryouts they realized that they wouldn't have the depth or the numbers to put a competitive squad in the league. Many of the top 12s will be playing up with the 13s because of this also. That's surprising! Seems they would have had that with each location and definitely if they had a combined team(s). |
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Post by cleansheet on Jul 31, 2019 16:26:33 GMT -5
Nope. Also the second u12 SCCL UFA team isn’t in the table. Anyone know why? Its my understanding that by the last night of tryouts they realized that they wouldn't have the depth or the numbers to put a competitive squad in the league. Many of the top 12s will be playing up with the 13s because of this also. Playing up with the u13 SCCL team or a Classic team? |
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Post by soccerdad76 on Jul 31, 2019 16:30:37 GMT -5
Nope. Also the second u12 SCCL UFA team isn’t in the table. Anyone know why? Its my understanding that by the last night of tryouts they realized that they wouldn't have the depth or the numbers to put a competitive squad in the league. Many of the top 12s will be playing up with the 13s because of this also. I just assumed they would take their top 08 Forsyth and Norcross teams and voila... SCCL |
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Post by cleansheet on Jul 31, 2019 16:35:55 GMT -5
Its my understanding that by the last night of tryouts they realized that they wouldn't have the depth or the numbers to put a competitive squad in the league. Many of the top 12s will be playing up with the 13s because of this also. I just assumed they would take their top 08 Forsyth and Norcross teams and voila... SCCL Rafiq’s top Premier team has like 14-15 quality players. They only have ~10 quality players for a second team and that team wouldn’t be out of Norcross bc lack of numbers. How will UFA make this work? Just have one u12 SCCL team unlike NASA and GSA or two SCCL teams and make some kids play two games a day with reduced minutes? |
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Post by soccernotfootball on Jul 31, 2019 16:36:58 GMT -5
Its my understanding that by the last night of tryouts they realized that they wouldn't have the depth or the numbers to put a competitive squad in the league. Many of the top 12s will be playing up with the 13s because of this also. I just assumed they would take their top 08 Forsyth and Norcross teams and voila... SCCL They don't have separate teams on the table but they do have 2 games per date... which I would assume means 2 teams (like the other clubs only listed once on the table). Still seems odd that ATL UTD isn't on the table yet. |
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Post by footyfan on Jul 31, 2019 16:38:51 GMT -5
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Post by cleansheet on Jul 31, 2019 17:12:40 GMT -5
That’s NPL. UFA’s top team at u12 will be SCCL. |
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Post by ga3v3 on Jul 31, 2019 19:03:51 GMT -5
That’s NPL. UFA’s top team at u12 will be SCCL. I’m not sure about the boys(would assume as well) but the Forsyth u12 girls premier will be playing in the NPL this year. It’s not many games so I’d guess they will also be playing sccl or other academy matches. |
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Post by footyfan on Aug 1, 2019 8:22:27 GMT -5
That’s NPL. UFA’s top team at u12 will be SCCL. I’m not sure about the boys(would assume as well) but the Forsyth u12 girls premier will be playing in the NPL this year. It’s not many games so I’d guess they will also be playing sccl or other academy matches. For clarification is "premier" the top team or the second team? |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 1, 2019 8:25:34 GMT -5
Still seems very odd - Atlanta United isn't there on the schedule for the 12s.
1. Its either a huge mistake by the scheduler to omit them
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2. AU pulled out
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Post by soccernotfootball on Aug 1, 2019 9:33:03 GMT -5
Still seems very odd - Atlanta United isn't there on the schedule for the 12s. 1. Its either a huge mistake by the scheduler to omit them or 2. AU pulled out Right - but they have to play those kids somewhere with no U12 DA. I would think SCCL would be the best option for them. |
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Post by cleansheet on Aug 1, 2019 9:59:17 GMT -5
Still seems very odd - Atlanta United isn't there on the schedule for the 12s. 1. Its either a huge mistake by the scheduler to omit them or 2. AU pulled out ATLUTD crest is still on the SCCL website and u12 was the only age they were participating in. |
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Post by cleansheet on Aug 1, 2019 9:59:39 GMT -5
I’m not sure about the boys(would assume as well) but the Forsyth u12 girls premier will be playing in the NPL this year. It’s not many games so I’d guess they will also be playing sccl or other academy matches. For clarification is "premier" the top team or the second team? Premier is the top team at UFA |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 1, 2019 10:10:50 GMT -5
For clarification is "premier" the top team or the second team? Premier is the top team at UFA SCCL Premier is the 2nd division SCCL is the 1st division If you were referring to that instead of what UFA call their teams. I'm not entirely sure what the person said above about UFA is correct. I know for a fact the UFA-Norcross Premier team in U14B is the SCCL-P team not the SCCL team. So that might be their best team in Norcross for that age group but obviously the UFA Forsyth team is probably got the 1st division SCCL spot. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 1, 2019 13:20:29 GMT -5
Premier being the top team below DA at UFA Forsyth I assume you mean...
So if the Norcross U14B Premier team is SCCL-P that would mean they're below the Red team from Forsyth, correct? That smacks of a diss by UFA leadership. I thought the concensus was that the Norcross boys teams were strong? I had no idea that Norcross lost most of their leadership until FG's post, but might that be due to decisions like this? Just postulating...Is Norcross currently a sinking ship?
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Post by cleansheet on Aug 1, 2019 13:34:38 GMT -5
Premier being the top team below DA at UFA Forsyth I assume you mean... So if the Norcross U14B Premier team is SCCL-P that would mean they're below the Red team from Forsyth, correct? That smacks of a diss by UFA leadership. I thought the concensus was that the Norcross boys teams were strong? I had no idea that Norcross lost most of their leadership until FG's post, but might that be due to decisions like this? Just postulating...Is Norcross currently a sinking ship? Widely know that UFAn has been losing player numbers, directors and the fields are cow pastures at best. |
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Post by surgesoccer on Aug 1, 2019 14:07:36 GMT -5
UFA top team is DA across all Locations. Then at branch locations you have the Premier team, red team, gold team, etc (if at forsyth location all colors of the rainbow seem to be represented).
Pre-SCCL Forsyth Premier and Norcross Premier were considered equal. Once SCCL and NPL as a primary league came into being the Pyramid Don't Lie - PDL (have to have been reading a while to understand this reference) established that NPL was considered by the club to be higher than SCCL, hence Forsyth got the NPL slot and Norcross got the SCCL spot.
But they also added the caveat that if the Norcross team did not perform up to expectations, that spot would then go to the Forsyth red team. After the first SCCL season that happened to the boys 06 team at Norcross. With the addition of SCCL 2 (a better name than SCCL Premier) the Forsyth red team was awarded this spot, unless of course the Forsyth red team already had the SCCL spot. So I think at the 06 boys it is Forsyth Premier (NPL) Forsyth Red (SCCL) and Norcross Premier (SCCL 2).
Long term I think UFA has in mind that all Forsyth Premier teams will be NPL, al Red Teams will be SCCL and all SCCL 2 spots will be Norcross Premier. Won't happen overnight but slowly, unless Norcross does a better job of pulling in players, that's where it's headed. Sort of a death spiral. Not sure UFA really cares. With Guti and Roberto I've heard they will no longer staff a Branch Director. Have not heard if they appointed or will have an Academy Director for the location.
Who knows 5 years from now the Norcross Fields may be under a new or existing club other than UFA.
And yes the fields do suck but that's because Gwinnett doesn't do a great job and will not let them turf some of the fields. Love it when its rained for 3 weeks and the sprinklers still come on regularly.
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Post by footyfan on Aug 1, 2019 14:09:30 GMT -5
Could they be playing in the USL Academy league? It appears there is no current plan for USL Academy league until 2020/21, so AU U12 didn't go there. There is only a joint U15-U16-U17-U18-U19 league for 2020/21: www.usl-academy.com/academy-model |
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