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Post by Strikeorkeep on Apr 10, 2020 8:08:07 GMT -5
Surely if this has any legs, word would have gotten out already?
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 10, 2020 10:37:46 GMT -5
Combining this with the thread about the $31M number, one must ask if the value per money spent is there. The value being evidenced by world cup appearances/results and improved overall USSF YNT/MNT/WNT international results. In this case, after over a decade in existence, is it doing what it is supposed to do? Especially given the money being spent by the federation.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Apr 10, 2020 11:19:12 GMT -5
If true, would ecnl block Tophat from joining as a punishment? Maybe for a year or two? Would be a great way to spread the talent around Atlanta.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 10, 2020 12:09:04 GMT -5
I’m assuming he means for this season.
Either way he’s a very well respected soccer host -
Seems very unprofessional to not clarify his comments.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 10, 2020 13:17:11 GMT -5
I’m assuming he means for this season. Either way he’s a very well respected soccer host - Seems very unprofessional to not clarify his comments. That makes sense. It would be unbelievable for them to just stop the program permanently without warning. Everyone would need a league to play in all of a sudden. It would be chaos. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 10, 2020 14:55:50 GMT -5
oraclesfriend we are in fact talking about the USSF right, of course they can do what they want, when they want. Watch them blame it on the current situation to give them some cover. This has been discussed by the MLS teams for the last two years. Almost pulled the trigger last year and DA caved with the blue/red DA Cup shenanigans. In other news, should this occur, that would make all the clubs with current ECNL/Boys soooo much more relevant now since they'd all be top of the food chain outside of AU. The real question now is what does the overall youth soccer Pyramid look like up to and including high school and which clubs gain/lose???
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 10, 2020 14:59:43 GMT -5
If something like this did happen...
1 - MLS clubs would create their own league quickly
2 - Someone (either US Club or maybe USSSA) would throw up a non-MLS replacement league almost immediately
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Post by footyfan on Apr 10, 2020 15:31:51 GMT -5
If something like this did happen... 1 - MLS clubs would create their own league quickly 2 - Someone (either US Club or maybe USSSA) would throw up a non-MLS replacement league almost immediately Agree about MLS(maybe add USL clubs) Isnt ECNL already the USCS replacement league for DA |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 10, 2020 15:52:51 GMT -5
Yeah, but they wouldn't likely just add them into ECNL all willy-nilly. They'd probably stand up another league and then merge them in due time.
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Post by krazykickers on Apr 10, 2020 17:44:52 GMT -5
It’s official. DOC’s just got an email. DA for both boys and girls is dissolved.
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Post by Lady Soccer Whistledown on Apr 10, 2020 17:55:46 GMT -5
For the girl's side I am totally making this up. ECNL will take the girls' DA teams and absorb them and make 2 leagues. One will be a higher league than the other, (ECNL Premier...again I am totally making this up)! They will have to redesign the regions for both.
**MY IMAGINATION RUNNING WILD....THAT'S IT****
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Post by rifle on Apr 10, 2020 18:00:31 GMT -5
It’s official. DOC’s just got an email. DA for both boys and girls is dissolved. thanks for the conclusive info |
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Post by soccerparent02 on Apr 10, 2020 18:19:25 GMT -5
This is all over Twitter. Perhaps the Georgia girls DA programs knew something. If you go back and look at some of my previous posts, I predicted this.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 10, 2020 18:32:56 GMT -5
Will wait for definitive info.
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Post by messindreams on Apr 10, 2020 18:40:54 GMT -5
Lot of hard decisions will be made. XFL shutdown and has no plans of returning in 2021. Not surprised if this is true with no income coming in for US Soccer and I won’t be surprised if other leagues shut down as well.
NBA can not pay most of the players starting May and 90 countries are on the brink of bankruptcy and need IMF to bail out. With that said, USDA, XFL and ECNL and many more may not survive if this drags into fall.
Let this pass and stay safe.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 10, 2020 18:42:12 GMT -5
The question is are they cancelling the rest of this season(obvious) or dissolving the league completely? I have not been able to definitively confirm that it's FOREVER as opposed to the rest of this fluid season. Like atlfutboldad, I too will wait for irrefutable info on the interweb before we all set our collective hairs on fire... |
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Post by cleansheet on Apr 10, 2020 18:43:16 GMT -5
Lot of hard decisions will be made. XFL shutdown and has no plans of returning in 2021. Not surprised if this is true with no income coming in for US Soccer and I won’t be surprised if other leagues shut down as well. NBA can not pay most of the players starting May and 90 countries are on the brink of bankruptcy and need IMF to bail out. With that said, USDA, XFL and ECNL and many more may not survive if this drags into fall. Let this pass and stay safe. There will be a revolution if this isn’t over by June. |
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Post by messindreams on Apr 10, 2020 18:49:18 GMT -5
Lot of hard decisions will be made. XFL shutdown and has no plans of returning in 2021. Not surprised if this is true with no income coming in for US Soccer and I won’t be surprised if other leagues shut down as well. NBA can not pay most of the players starting May and 90 countries are on the brink of bankruptcy and need IMF to bail out. With that said, USDA, XFL and ECNL and many more may not survive if this drags into fall. Let this pass and stay safe. There will be a revolution if this isn’t over by June. Agreed, Generally speaking, some smaller clubs may not survive and also some families may not be able to afford pay to play with all the furloughs and layoffs. Lot will change between now and fall IMO. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 10, 2020 19:15:27 GMT -5
Feds might be Freaking about money, but given the vast majority of players paid to play - shouldnt matter.
If true - very very bad look for the feds.
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Post by soccergurl on Apr 10, 2020 19:16:02 GMT -5
this no true what happen to gir team and boy team if da it go away?
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Post by messindreams on Apr 10, 2020 19:22:26 GMT -5
Feds might be Freaking about money, but given the vast majority of players paid to play - shouldnt matter. If true - very very bad look for the feds. Yep. Horrible and unstable management, lawsuits to settle, drying out funds the list goes on. |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Apr 10, 2020 19:35:10 GMT -5
Is anyone singing dirges in the dark?
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Post by Soccerphreak on Apr 10, 2020 20:34:41 GMT -5
If this rumor is true, and I won't believe it until I see it, how long do you think it will take TH to announce it? Afterall, they kept mum about UFA and Courage dropping DA, leaving their parents in limbo.
"Ignorance when combined with arrogance is a deadly combination of self destruction"
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 10, 2020 20:45:44 GMT -5
Holy that crap - that was the gala announcement!
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Post by blu on Apr 11, 2020 8:48:03 GMT -5
Any confirmation on this? April fools a week late?
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Post by ilove8amgames on Apr 11, 2020 10:10:47 GMT -5
DA est mort.
Not just for the year, but permanently. MLS will create its own league. USL too.
How will MLS kids get enough games? They will have to travel a lot. Likely why AU is changing practice times to morning sessions next year. Soccer over school at this point.
I really don’t think this matters one bit. A rose by any name .... there will always be the top team. Here, AU. And by top team, I mean likely to have the best top 2 or 3 kids in an age group. Then the next top 18 kids on the next team. Whether it is Called DA or whatever, it is all the same.
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Post by rifle on Apr 11, 2020 10:25:12 GMT -5
If the pyramid ends up less fragmented it’ll be for the best.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 11, 2020 10:28:06 GMT -5
Will be worse
Pyramid for 98% and then a Pyramid for MLS clubs - neither is good for youth soccer.
Another league will be created for all the DA teams - could see a new US club league forming if boys ecnl isn’t the option.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 11, 2020 13:32:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure how some will take this but honestly, I don't see a problem with eliminating DA or a league where pro and non-pro teams play. I don't know of anywhere else where this occurs in the world and it works. I think there needs to be one for the MLS and everyone else does their own thing. With recruiting you leave the young lads at their respective clubs to develop, grow and take in the entire landscape of being kids. Let them play with friends and classmates in BB, Chess, Football and Fencing for all I care. As the creme starts to rise to the top, then give them the options of an AU at U15 to join and truly be developed for a pathway to the pros and possibly the Nat'l Teams. You can still have the pro clubs run clinics and continuous ID camps throughout the year(s), like they do currently with the futures etc. I would also add the caveat that they eliminate the earlier teams prior to U15. Complete waste of resources. Many MLS clubs reluctantly fund these at a loss. So at 15+ clubs can lock in on legitimate players that they truly feel and want to invest in for the pro ranks...
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Post by footyfan on Apr 11, 2020 14:14:11 GMT -5
I'm not sure how some will take this but honestly, I don't see a problem with eliminating DA or a league where pro and non-pro teams play. I don't know of anywhere else where this occurs in the world and it works. I think there needs to be one for the MLS and everyone else does their own thing. With recruiting you leave the young lads at their respective clubs to develop, grow and take in the entire landscape of being kids. Let them play with friends and classmates in BB, Chess, Football and Fencing for all I care. As the creme starts to rise to the top, then give them the options of an AU at U15 to join and truly be developed for a pathway to the pros and possibly the Nat'l Teams. You can still have the pro clubs run clinics and continuous ID camps throughout the year(s), like they do currently with the futures etc. I would also add the caveat that they eliminate the earlier teams prior to U15. Complete waste of resources. Many MLS clubs reluctantly fund these at a loss. So at 15+ clubs can lock in on legitimate players that they truly feel and want to invest in for the pro ranks... I heard someone from a pro club discussing just having boys 15U,16U,17U and 18/19U team. 2 coaches, low overhead. |
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