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Post by Upper90 on Apr 15, 2020 17:42:13 GMT -5
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 15, 2020 17:49:37 GMT -5
After weeks, days, hours and minutes of leaks, breaking news(not), innuendoes, assumptions and saber rattling, it looks like Upper90 swooped in with the actual bonafide confirmation. They get the prize for breaking the news. Well done Upper90 👏👏👏 Finally, the talking heads at USSF chose to release us from our rumor mongering. We can all now collectively set our hair on fire. Remember to act surprised when you read the article 😱😱😱 |
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Post by krazykickers on Apr 15, 2020 18:04:51 GMT -5
yeah. Knew last Friday. Saw the email to a DOC.
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Post by honeybadger on Apr 15, 2020 18:30:10 GMT -5
Wow. I assume this will ripple down? ECNL gets stronger, SCCL, etc?
And how does this affect TH? No DA and no ECNL?
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Post by soccernotfootball on Apr 15, 2020 18:46:08 GMT -5
Lots of moving parts... ECNL has been announcing club additions all day (nothing regarding the Southeast yet). This and the shutdown are going to make tryouts even crazier than any normal year.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 15, 2020 18:53:53 GMT -5
Wow. I assume this will ripple down? ECNL gets stronger, SCCL, etc? And how does this affect TH? No DA and no ECNL? Please see the following link: gasoccerforum.com/post/45107 |
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Post by shaka on Apr 15, 2020 20:21:02 GMT -5
Interesting that covid 19 was the main reason given for ending things...
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Apr 15, 2020 20:21:12 GMT -5
Wow. I assume this will ripple down? ECNL gets stronger, SCCL, etc? And how does this affect TH? No DA and no ECNL? SCCL doesn’t get stronger, not a league designed to gain strength. It is a league of convenience. It has no college cache and is not nationally recognized. Even inside if the SCCL footprint, local college coaches don’t know what SCCL is. Not taking a dig, just stating the facts |
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Post by footballer on Apr 15, 2020 20:31:48 GMT -5
Wow. I assume this will ripple down? ECNL gets stronger, SCCL, etc? And how does this affect TH? No DA and no ECNL? SCCL doesn’t get stronger, not a league designed to gain strength. It is a league of convenience. It has no college cache and is not nationally recognized. Even inside if the SCCL footprint, local college coaches don’t know what SCCL is. Not taking a dig, just stating the facts Good point regarding not being recognized. It's still quite new though if im not mistaken. Would be nice if sccl is allowed to play ECNL teams in some sort of competition sort of like the Generation Adidas cup to give them some credibility. Good selling point for clubs and satisfaction for parents that buy into the "Big/Elite leagues" name-dropping game. |
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Post by footyfan on Apr 15, 2020 20:48:58 GMT -5
SCCL doesn’t get stronger, not a league designed to gain strength. It is a league of convenience. It has no college cache and is not nationally recognized. Even inside if the SCCL footprint, local college coaches don’t know what SCCL is. Not taking a dig, just stating the facts Good point regarding not being recognized. It's still quite new though if im not mistaken. Would be nice if sccl is allowed to play ECNL teams in some sort of competition sort of like the Generation Adidas cup to give them some credibility. Good selling point for clubs and satisfaction for parents that buy into the "Big/Elite leagues" name-dropping game. That makes as much sense as ECNL playing GA Soccer teams. ECNL does not even see SCCL. |
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Post by soccernotfootball on Apr 15, 2020 20:53:47 GMT -5
Good point regarding not being recognized. It's still quite new though if im not mistaken. Would be nice if sccl is allowed to play ECNL teams in some sort of competition sort of like the Generation Adidas cup to give them some credibility. Good selling point for clubs and satisfaction for parents that buy into the "Big/Elite leagues" name-dropping game. That makes as much sense as ECNL playing GA Soccer teams. ECNL does not even see SCCL. Perhaps, but it would be cool to have some sort of Cup (similar to FA Cup or US Open Cup) where different leagues/divisions play each other. And not just a weekend tourney - stretch it out and have a lot of teams, like the FA/Open etc. |
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Post by footballer on Apr 15, 2020 21:08:56 GMT -5
That makes as much sense as ECNL playing GA Soccer teams. ECNL does not even see SCCL. Perhaps, but it would be cool to have some sort of Cup (similar to FA Cup or US Open Cup) where different leagues/divisions play each other. And not just a weekend tourney - stretch it out and have a lot of teams, like the FA/Open etc. That would be awesome and a good move for GA soccer. As a matter of fact, if that is the only thing GA soccer can achieve, I would count that as a big win for them. SCCL are moving in the right direction still. |
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Post by blu on Apr 15, 2020 21:22:08 GMT -5
ECNL and SCCL teams play each other in tournaments, at least at the younger ages. I've seen a few SCCL teams take down ECNL's this year and last.
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Post by BubbleDad on Apr 15, 2020 21:28:49 GMT -5
Wow. I assume this will ripple down? ECNL gets stronger, SCCL, etc? And how does this affect TH? No DA and no ECNL? Tryouts at NTH are going to be bonkers more than ever. I told my daughter to keep up the training and you have no friends when it comes to tryouts. |
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Post by BubbleDad on Apr 15, 2020 21:29:37 GMT -5
ODP will gain back its importance
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Post by BubbleDad on Apr 15, 2020 21:38:25 GMT -5
Wow. I assume this will ripple down? ECNL gets stronger, SCCL, etc? And how does this affect TH? No DA and no ECNL? SCCL doesn’t get stronger, not a league designed to gain strength. It is a league of convenience. It has no college cache and is not nationally recognized. Even inside if the SCCL footprint, local college coaches don’t know what SCCL is. Not taking a dig, just stating the facts Local colleges do know about SCCL and they've recruited girls out of the league. There are SCCL teams going to top showcases like Jefferson Cup, Disney and so on. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 15, 2020 21:38:59 GMT -5
Always forget - but doesn’t a kid have to be registered with the state organization to play odp?
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Post by soccerdad76 on Apr 15, 2020 22:22:57 GMT -5
Always forget - but doesn’t a kid have to be registered with the state organization to play odp? Negative... ECNL and SCCL kids are out there |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Apr 15, 2020 22:44:21 GMT -5
Yes they do. But it’s just a small fee to register.
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Post by soccerdad76 on Apr 15, 2020 23:57:46 GMT -5
Yes they do. But it’s just a small fee to register. Maybe the ECNL/SCCL clubs register with GA Soccer as standard protocol as well then... I didn’t do anything extra when registering for ODP. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 16, 2020 0:01:00 GMT -5
Your club will typically pay for US Club players to be registered with GA Soccer. I think for most players it happens behind the scenes. I had to notify our registrar who took care of it with the GA Soccer rep. Both sides were helpful.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Apr 16, 2020 8:46:03 GMT -5
Your club will typically pay for US Club players to be registered with GA Soccer. I think for most players it happens behind the scenes. I had to notify our registrar who took care of it with the GA Soccer rep. Both sides were helpful. As far as I know and I can get access to my kids in the Affinity system and in US Club Soccer, SSA did not register any of my son's SCCL team with GA Soccer. I also don't believe they registered any of the academy aged players or any other select teams except for the ones playing in Athena/Classic and the recreation players. So I don't believe you have to join GA Soccer. Most all tournaments allow US Club Soccer or USYS affiliation. SSA instructed their teams and coaches not to register for any GA Soccer run tournament such as state cup, publix cup, etc..... |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 16, 2020 9:49:57 GMT -5
I read the question was about registering with GA Soccer for ODP.
If your child is only playing in US Club leagues, then no reason to register for GA Soccer/USYS.
Would be interesting with all the big 5 + AFU + Roswell no longer registering with GA Soccer AT ALL for select ages. Are these clubs going to start their own academy league or continue to use GA Soccer for U9-U12 (minus SCCL teams).
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Post by DOOM on Apr 16, 2020 10:30:16 GMT -5
ODP will gain back its importance I seriously doubt that...Most ECNL players (girls) didn't play ODP. Their coaches discouraged, or outright banned their participation. Just because DA folded, it doesn't meant the mindset of the ECNL coaches will change. |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Apr 16, 2020 10:41:53 GMT -5
Atlanta Fire ECNL had tons of girls on ODP last season
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Post by soccernotfootball on Apr 16, 2020 10:45:11 GMT -5
ODP will gain back its importance I seriously doubt that...Most ECNL players (girls) didn't play ODP. Their coaches discouraged, or outright banned their participation. Just because DA folded, it doesn't meant the mindset of the ECNL coaches will change. We'll see if it becomes stronger. Yes, Atl Fire and GSA both seem to participate in ODP, other big clubs do not. And as said above, it's discouraged or banned. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 16, 2020 10:52:21 GMT -5
In general ODP doesn't have a great reputation at the larger clubs. It is what it is, and each individual needs to asses its own value to them as a player.
Some love it, some love the extra night of "scrimmaging" others despised it. The boys being at atlanta united is probably much more convenient than conyers and I'm sure Atlanta United is occasionally scouting and adding in ODP players (not sure, guessing). In the mix of a busy training season it can be exhausting.
I personally wouldn't look at ODP has some player pathway to something else though-- I'd look at it as an opportunity for your kid to play with kids from all over the city/state and get some extra touches in. For us back in the day, it basically was organized pick up soccer. Kids for the most part trained for 30 minutes then scrimmaged the remainder of the time -- just open play with very little defensive effort....
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 16, 2020 10:55:32 GMT -5
I read the question was about registering with GA Soccer for ODP. If your child is only playing in US Club leagues, then no reason to register for GA Soccer/USYS. Would be interesting with all the big 5 + AFU + Roswell no longer registering with GA Soccer AT ALL for select ages. Are these clubs going to start their own academy league or continue to use GA Soccer for U9-U12 (minus SCCL teams). I don't know if there is a need to start their own for U9-U12. They are currently in Ga soccer, but they make their own schedules, so the "big 5+" usually only schedule games against each other and a few select other ones. While the "alliance" and small club teams do the same... They don't play together well at the Academy level either, even if they are in the same sandbox. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 16, 2020 10:59:20 GMT -5
In general ODP doesn't have a great reputation at the larger clubs. It is what it is, and each individual needs to asses its own value to them as a player. Some love it, some love the extra night of "scrimmaging" others despised it. The boys being at atlanta united is probably much more convenient than conyers and I'm sure Atlanta United is occasionally scouting and adding in ODP players (not sure, guessing). In the mix of a busy training season it can be exhausting. I personally wouldn't look at ODP has some player pathway to something else though-- I'd look at it as an opportunity for your kid to play with kids from all over the city/state and get some extra touches in. For us back in the day, it basically was organized pick up soccer. Kids for the most part trained for 30 minutes then scrimmaged the remainder of the time -- just open play with very little defensive effort.... As I understood it, back in the day, ODP was valued. Besides the practices, you got to play against of states and got invites to reginal camps where you could be seen by YNT's. Is that not the case?? |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 16, 2020 10:59:26 GMT -5
RIght, but they have to sanction with an organzation: US Club, USYS/GA Soccer, USSSA, etc. Why not just register players/teams with US Club? At least they rely on birth certificates...
ODP: For my daughter's age group, SSA and Inter had the largest participation. No GSA, no NTH, no CF, no UFA.
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