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May 7, 2020 7:13:59 GMT -5
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Post by ultimatedad on May 7, 2020 7:13:59 GMT -5
If you were to relegate one club out SCCL top division girls which club would it be?
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May 7, 2020 7:33:38 GMT -5
Post by soccergurl on May 7, 2020 7:33:38 GMT -5
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May 7, 2020 7:35:56 GMT -5
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Post by honeybadger on May 7, 2020 7:35:56 GMT -5
Tough one. In our age group SSA was very weak but I’m sure they were awesome in other age groups . At AuFA we were strong in 05 and won the Nationals in 03, but we were weak in other age groups do some could say UFA. VHSC was weak in our age group . GSA dominated our age group but very weak in others .
That’s a tough one !
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May 7, 2020 8:54:15 GMT -5
Post by soccernoleuk on May 7, 2020 8:54:15 GMT -5
That's tough to say because no club is weak across the board. I would think CESA would be the first to go and they are already leaving. Next would probably be BUSA, but that would then leave VHSC alone in Birmingham, and not really worth keeping due to travel IMO.
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Post by ultimatedad on May 7, 2020 11:50:08 GMT -5
At some point a club from SCCL2 should take over the worst performing clubs spot. That could create a fun competitive situation.
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May 7, 2020 11:56:42 GMT -5
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Post by ultimatedad on May 7, 2020 11:56:42 GMT -5
At some point a club from SCCL2 should take over the worst performing clubs spot. That could create a fun competitive situation.
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May 7, 2020 11:57:37 GMT -5
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Post by ultimatedad on May 7, 2020 11:57:37 GMT -5
I wonder if a club would pull down ECNL players to keep their position.
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 7, 2020 12:05:52 GMT -5
I wonder if a club would pull down ECNL players to keep their position. While the powers that be at SCCL have mentioned a clear path to top flight, they have not mentioned anything about a clear path to relegation from top flight SCCL. While there might be teams within SCCL-P1 that can compete in the top flight of SCCL, is the club deep enough and strong enough to field a team through all age groups? That will be a big question once things progress in the seasons to come. As to the pulling down players, I didn't think US Club allowed that. If you are officially rostered on an ECNL team I didn't think you could play SCCL. If you are officially rostered on an SCCL team I didn't think you could play in SCCL-P games. Am I not understanding that correctly? |
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May 7, 2020 12:16:09 GMT -5
Post by honeybadger on May 7, 2020 12:16:09 GMT -5
I won't name the team, but we played a team last year out of state that had 4 players wearing ECNL patches but they could have just been borrowed jerseys I guess. So no proof there.
I do know we played a local team who has ECNL and I knew the kid personally who played ECNL. I think the way they got around it was maybe this kid was actually SCCL kid who swung up to ECNL, or she was a swing player. But they always played ECNL.
So who knows.
It's my understanding that SCCL cannot play a player down an SCCL level. I could be wrong.
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May 7, 2020 12:51:04 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on May 7, 2020 12:51:04 GMT -5
I wonder if a club would pull down ECNL players to keep their position. While the powers that be at SCCL have mentioned a clear path to top flight, they have not mentioned anything about a clear path to relegation from top flight SCCL. While there might be teams within SCCL-P1 that can compete in the top flight of SCCL, is the club deep enough and strong enough to field a team through all age groups? That will be a big question once things progress in the seasons to come. As to the pulling down players, I didn't think US Club allowed that. If you are officially rostered on an ECNL team I didn't think you could play SCCL. If you are officially rostered on an SCCL team I didn't think you could play in SCCL-P games. Am I not understanding that correctly? In regards to SCCL “club passing” there are no rules. You can pull a player from any level as long as they are age appropriate so yes an ECNL or NPL player can play on an SCCL team if needed. That’s one of the perks of SCCL as you hope this rule will only be used to help teams that are short and keep games competitive. |
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May 7, 2020 13:11:57 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on May 7, 2020 13:11:57 GMT -5
That is supposed to be accurate SCCL => ECNL is fine. ECNL => SCCL is not allowed (from what we were told). The same should be true from SCCL => SCCL-P, but I'm not sure there's anything enforcing it. CESA and BUSA are the weakest club-wide. With the new 11-club (current until 12 and/or 13 are announced) format, we will have to wait and see. This is girls side only... Concorde will be strong (2019 avg position 3.3 - tie 1st)
Tophat, with SCCL now their 4th team, perhaps they will be one of the weaker clubs next year, but their SCCL-P teams were generally strong in their brackets, so maybe they will be fine. (2019 avg position 3.3 - tie 1st)
GSA had some weak and a couple strong teams (2019 avg position 4.2 - 3rd place) VHSC (2019 avg position 4.3 - 4th place) UFA is definitely up and down, middling. No offense to you badger, but part of this is just the fall of Norcross (2019 avg position 4.8 - tie 5th place) SSA just like UFA (2019 avg position 4.8 - tie 5th place) CESA is gone anyways (2019 avg position 5 - 7th place) BUSA is by far the weakest (2019 avg position 6.2 - 8th place) New clubs: Roswell should be strong (mostly NL teams coming in) AFU topped 2/3 of the brackets in SCCL-P, how will it translate? Will any players come from GSA and UFA? Ambush...Mostly Athena A and B teams (03's won Athena A...so effectively a NL team). So they may be pretty strong. FC Alliance is a complete unknown. Their ECNL teams don't appear very strong, but having seen their 06 ECNLs in person, they have some athletes (a few 06s who are around 5'8"). They should be around CESA/BUSA level at worst. Will see who else joins. |
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May 7, 2020 19:09:49 GMT -5
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Post by BubbleDad on May 7, 2020 19:09:49 GMT -5
While the powers that be at SCCL have mentioned a clear path to top flight, they have not mentioned anything about a clear path to relegation from top flight SCCL. While there might be teams within SCCL-P1 that can compete in the top flight of SCCL, is the club deep enough and strong enough to field a team through all age groups? That will be a big question once things progress in the seasons to come. As to the pulling down players, I didn't think US Club allowed that. If you are officially rostered on an ECNL team I didn't think you could play SCCL. If you are officially rostered on an SCCL team I didn't think you could play in SCCL-P games. Am I not understanding that correctly? In regards to SCCL “club passing” there are no rules. You can pull a player from any level as long as they are age appropriate so yes an ECNL or NPL player can play on an SCCL team if needed. That’s one of the perks of SCCL as you hope this rule will only be used to help teams that are short and keep games competitive. during the 2019-2020 season ... an ECNL player could not play on an SCCL team. Believe me ... we had an opponent try to pull that mess and our team manager found it in the rules that it was illegal to use ECNL players in our game. |
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May 7, 2020 19:14:37 GMT -5
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Post by BubbleDad on May 7, 2020 19:14:37 GMT -5
Tophat, with SCCL now their 4th team, perhaps they will be one of the weaker clubs next year, but their SCCL-P teams were generally strong in their brackets, so maybe they will be fine. (2019 avg position 3.3 - tie 1st) I'm hoping this is untrue. Our SCCLP team beat a DPL team at Disney. You have to understand there are a lot of girls that aren't on the top teams at Tophat because of sometimes small margins of one player being better than another. |
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May 7, 2020 19:34:41 GMT -5
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 7, 2020 19:34:41 GMT -5
What club? An ECNL player in an SCCL-P game?
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May 7, 2020 20:26:07 GMT -5
Post by kidsocceruber on May 7, 2020 20:26:07 GMT -5
New clubs: Roswell should be strong (mostly NL teams coming in) AFU topped 2/3 of the brackets in SCCL-P, how will it translate? Will any players come from GSA and UFA? Ambush...Mostly Athena A and B teams (03's won Athena A...so effectively a NL team). So they may be pretty strong. FC Alliance is a complete unknown. Their ECNL teams don't appear very strong, but having seen their 06 ECNLs in person, they have some athletes (a few 06s who are around 5'8"). They should be around CESA/BUSA level at worst. Will see who else joins. Roswell girls have a few very good teams(05 and 06 Girls NL, 04 and 07 Athena A come to mind) I think they'll be fairly strong in top SCCL. I think all of AFU's girls were very good in SCCL-P, first or second place across the board U17 finished a close 3rd in the fall. Ambush had two very good teams(03 A Girls and 06 NL-II Boys), the rest were middle to bottom of their respective divisions(NL/A/B/I/II). |
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May 7, 2020 21:02:35 GMT -5
Post by sidelinesdad on May 7, 2020 21:02:35 GMT -5
I believe Ambush 05 girls were playing NL Piedmont premier I and the 07 Girls were on track to win GPL (division higher than Athena A) which would have qualified them for NL Piedmont.
If we are going to give Roswell 04 and 07 props for doing good In Athena A and say you think they will be fairly strong in SCCL it seems disingenuous to not feel like those teams would also be competitive in SCCL.
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May 7, 2020 21:09:28 GMT -5
Post by honeybadger on May 7, 2020 21:09:28 GMT -5
That Roswell 05 team could very well win SCCL top division if they have stayed together. I believe they went undefeated in NL when we were there with 2 ties-we tied them once. They are strong.
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May 7, 2020 21:12:09 GMT -5
Post by sidelinesdad on May 7, 2020 21:12:09 GMT -5
That team did look strong.
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Post by kidsocceruber on May 7, 2020 21:16:43 GMT -5
I believe Ambush 05 girls were playing NL Piedmont premier I and the 07 Girls were on track to win GPL (division higher than Athena A) which would have qualified them for NL Piedmont. If we are going to give Roswell 04 and 07 props for doing good In Athena A and say you think they will be fairly strong in SCCL it seems disingenuous to not feel like those teams would also be competitive in SCCL. Ambush 05 girls were in NL Piedmont and struggled after coming up from A the year prior(struggling there as well). I said they had a couple of strong teams, but across the board they weren't fairing well this year. The Roswell teams across the board were very strong in NL and A, but take it for what it's worth. Not trying to start a fight, I have kids at Ambush  |
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May 7, 2020 21:20:17 GMT -5
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Post by BubbleDad on May 7, 2020 21:20:17 GMT -5
New clubs: Roswell should be strong (mostly NL teams coming in) AFU topped 2/3 of the brackets in SCCL-P, how will it translate? Will any players come from GSA and UFA? Ambush...Mostly Athena A and B teams (03's won Athena A...so effectively a NL team). So they may be pretty strong. FC Alliance is a complete unknown. Their ECNL teams don't appear very strong, but having seen their 06 ECNLs in person, they have some athletes (a few 06s who are around 5'8"). They should be around CESA/BUSA level at worst. Will see who else joins. Roswell girls have a few very good teams(05 and 06 Girls NL, 04 and 07 Athena A come to mind) I think they'll be fairly strong in top SCCL. I think all of AFU's girls were very good in SCCL-P, first or second place across the board U17 finished a close 3rd in the fall. Ambush had two very good teams(03 A Girls and 06 NL-II Boys), the rest were middle to bottom of their respective divisions(NL/A/B/I/II). "I think all of AFU's girls were very good in SCCL-P, first or second place across the board U17 finished a close 3rd in the fall." It was definitely a battle royale between Concorde, Tophat and Atlanta Fire in the 2006 sccl Premier group. Mind you, the Atlanta fire team would have been in the sccl one group if they were allowed to have that level of team this past year. I'll definitely be interested in seeing how well they perform amongst other sccl 1 teams 2020-2021. |
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Post by BubbleDad on May 7, 2020 21:21:43 GMT -5
What club? An ECNL player in an SCCL-P game? Concorde's sneaky butt! |
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