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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 12, 2020 21:39:35 GMT -5
Check out the infection rate of the flu 8.5% or 27,000,000. Covid is much lower. Quit buying into the rhetoric. Think about all the families now who are financially in ruin. Food shortages due to supply issues caused by the shutdown. These are as much of an issue. The food shortages are due to the meat processing plants having no workers because they all got infected. The poultry industry in Gainesville is why Hall county was a hot spot. The same issue happened in South Dakota. Talk about buying in...you don't even make sense. |
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Post by newposter on Jun 12, 2020 21:49:17 GMT -5
Not all of the shortages due to outbreaks. Other non food items also in short supply. Toilet paper, hand soap, paper towels, sanitizer wipes, etc.
Of course assuming people have money to purchase those items, pay mortgages and rent, clothes and other necessary items.
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Post by bogan on Jun 13, 2020 7:20:46 GMT -5
From soccer parenting newsletter:
“Our fields are open here in Richmond, and the team I coach starts training on Monday! Of course it’s with social distancing, so it won’t look exactly like soccer – but I know it will be a big boost for the players to be able to get out and see their teammates, laugh a bit, and challenge themselves physically. What a few months this has been! And with so much uncertainty about the future – when we can resume contact training – what potential health issues will arise from our return to activity – if we can attend tournaments…. trust and collaboration between clubs, coaches and parents is essential.”
I think the last few sentences sum it up nicely.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 13, 2020 9:18:26 GMT -5
Big event this weekend at Silverback. Over 100 boys and girls players from southeast playing. 4 games today. Over 70 college coaches confirmed.
Seaasports.com
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Post by atlsoccerdad on Jun 15, 2020 7:42:04 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jun 19, 2020 10:46:15 GMT -5
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Post by guest on Jun 19, 2020 11:22:27 GMT -5
I think most folks have come to terms with the fact that numbers are going to rise, probably significantly. But people are going to have to choose.
Shelter in place: low infection rates, save lives, bankrupt the country.
Open ‘r up: high cases, more deaths but primarily older folks and people with comorbidities.
The answer is likely to be somewhere in between.
It will be hard to know/do what is right in this climate though. I have a hs friend on FB who has, shall we say, opposing views from me. When this kicked off they literally posted that Kemp should be brought to trial for criminal negligence and thrown in jail for not shutting down quick enough and reopening too soon. “He’s killing us!”, etc. With that kind of attitude on one side and the equally incredible views on the other side, I just don’t think any official can make any decision without being asked to resign or arrested.
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Post by sanesoccerdad on Jun 19, 2020 11:45:54 GMT -5
I think most folks have come to terms with the fact that numbers are going to rise, probably significantly. But people are going to have to choose. Shelter in place: low infection rates, save lives, bankrupt the country. Open ‘r up: high cases, more deaths but primarily older folks and people with comorbidities. The answer is likely to be somewhere in between. It will be hard to know/do what is right in this climate though. I have a hs friend on FB who has, shall we say, opposing views from me. When this kicked off they literally posted that Kemp should be brought to trial for criminal negligence and thrown in jail for not shutting down quick enough and reopening too soon. “He’s killing us!”, etc. With that kind of attitude on one side and the equally incredible views on the other side, I just don’t think any official can make any decision without being asked to resign or arrested. I know it wasn't your intention, but you just absolved our "leaders" of making hard decisions. They knew (or should have known) what they signed up for when they ran for office. If they talked about balancing economics and safety in rational terms - including continuing to take steps to ensure distancing, mask wearing, etc. - it could be said that they were showing leadership. In Georgia, they really just blow with political winds and (mostly) refuse to acknowledge that we still have a problem. It will be morbidly interesting to see what happens as infections, hospitalizations and deaths continue to rise (as they inevitably will). |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 19, 2020 12:21:26 GMT -5
I have been shocked by the low percentage of people wearing masks indoors in certain communities. I have seen less than 10% use of masks in some counties, cities to over 75% use.
Orange county (Orlando) Florida just mandated masks indoors in public. It really isn't that different from seat belt use requirement. It is meant for your safety and the safety of those in your immediate surroundings.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Jun 19, 2020 12:30:16 GMT -5
I think most folks have come to terms with the fact that numbers are going to rise, probably significantly. But people are going to have to choose. Shelter in place: low infection rates, save lives, bankrupt the country. Open ‘r up: high cases, more deaths but primarily older folks and people with comorbidities. The answer is likely to be somewhere in between. It will be hard to know/do what is right in this climate though. I have a hs friend on FB who has, shall we say, opposing views from me. When this kicked off they literally posted that Kemp should be brought to trial for criminal negligence and thrown in jail for not shutting down quick enough and reopening too soon. “He’s killing us!”, etc. With that kind of attitude on one side and the equally incredible views on the other side, I just don’t think any official can make any decision without being asked to resign or arrested. I know it wasn't your intention, but you just absolved our "leaders" of making hard decisions. They knew (or should have known) what they signed up for when they ran for office. If they talked about balancing economics and safety in rational terms - including continuing to take steps to ensure distancing, mask wearing, etc. - it could be said that they were showing leadership. In Georgia, they really just blow with political winds and (mostly) refuse to acknowledge that we still have a problem. It will be morbidly interesting to see what happens as infections, hospitalizations and deaths continue to rise (as they inevitably will). This is so true. This is also shown in the support, or lack there of, for the police men and women in the city of Atlanta. I'm not trying to gaslight, just pointing out that they will switch sides as soon as the winds favor another direction, and then yet again as it shifts in yet any other direction. Whatever it takes to keep them in office. Sadly, it rare nowadays to see a principled politician. ** edit: after originally posting this, I realized I painted all politicians with a big brush. We tend to do this too much as a society on so many topics and label "ALL" to describe a viewpoint, which cause others on the opposite side to take a defensive stance... so I am amending my comments to say that MANY politicians are this way, not all... ** |
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Post by bogan on Jun 19, 2020 12:37:54 GMT -5
I have been shocked by the low percentage of people wearing masks indoors in certain communities. I have seen less than 10% use of masks in some counties, cities to over 75% use. Orange county (Orlando) Florida just mandated masks indoors in public. It really isn't that different from seat belt use requirement. It is meant for your safety and the safety of those in your immediate surroundings. I had a feeling this was coming when I saw block parties for graduation, etc...and yes, no one wearing masks or social distancing. The local politicians have been pretty balanced but the governor ties their hands as his mandates trump theirs. |
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Post by sanesoccerdad on Jun 19, 2020 13:29:32 GMT -5
I have been shocked by the low percentage of people wearing masks indoors in certain communities. I have seen less than 10% use of masks in some counties, cities to over 75% use. Orange county (Orlando) Florida just mandated masks indoors in public. It really isn't that different from seat belt use requirement. It is meant for your safety and the safety of those in your immediate surroundings. I had a feeling this was coming when I saw block parties for graduation, etc...and yes, no one wearing masks or social distancing. The local politicians have been pretty balanced but the governor ties their hands as his mandates trump theirs. I see what you did there. :-) |
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Post by soccernotfootball on Jun 19, 2020 13:41:49 GMT -5
This forum has become a joke. Barely better than the previous one at this point.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 19, 2020 14:08:30 GMT -5
Bottom line - everyone has a choice. You can stay home locked up in your house or go about your life as it was prior to Covid. This is what makes the USA the greatest country on earth...personal freedom. My family chooses to go back to our normal life.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 19, 2020 14:15:09 GMT -5
Bottom line - everyone has a choice. You can stay home locked up in your house or go about your life as it was prior to Covid. This is what makes the USA the greatest country on earth...personal freedom. My family chooses to go back to our normal life. Nothing wrong with going out and doing things, but does your "normal life" include wearing a mask? There is a happy medium. Mask on your face and don't get in the face of your friends. Talk from 6 feet away. Let your kids play soccer. Use hand sanitizer and wash your hands. This is what allows you to do things and protects society from getting shut down again. We just took our kids to a soccer event in North Carolina. They had a great time. But we wore a mask if we went indoors anywhere around people. We ate outdoors at most restaurants. We respected social distancing at the store or the ice cream shop. The kids' groups were limited in numbers, but they did play full contact. We spoke with other parents but from six feet away. It really isn't hard to be pretty close to normal yet protect yourself and society. |
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 19, 2020 14:26:00 GMT -5
We went and watched a big local soccer event last weekend. Full sided 11 v 11 games with fans. Teams were full sized and from all over the southeast. It looked like a pre Covid event. There were a few masks but not a majority. Just as the flu comes around each year, Covid may also and before anyone mentions a vaccine, flu vaccines are roughly 40% effective lately.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 19, 2020 15:08:13 GMT -5
I had hoped the majority would have opted for a happy medium. Open businesses, maintain distance, stay home and monitor if you don't feel well, limited numbers of people in indoor places, etc. But when things opened, people got very stupid again.
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jun 19, 2020 15:14:42 GMT -5
My question is which people? There have been huge gatherings not practicing social distancing with large numbers not wearing masks. I'm actually ok with it...again personal choice for them just like for us. Let's not be hypocritical.
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Post by guest on Jun 20, 2020 8:20:34 GMT -5
Last week we had our first lacrosse scrimmages at the beautiful Rush Union lacrosse fields. Half hearted social distancing.
This weekend we are traveling to B’ham for the first real tournament. Posted rules are fairly strict. Mask usage required on the sidelines, including parents, players and coaches. Subbed off the field for a quick break? Supposed to put your mask on. We’ll see if that happens. I know Hoover High football is already in helmets (we are not there yet). But players must wear face masks under the helmet. Crazy!
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 20, 2020 13:19:07 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Jun 20, 2020 13:28:14 GMT -5
I couldn’t imagine doing much more than walking in one of those things. It would be like wearing an altitude trainer. |
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Post by soccerspin on Jun 20, 2020 20:36:38 GMT -5
Precisely why my child will never wear anything over his mouth while exercising. Ever. |
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