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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Sept 27, 2020 16:05:15 GMT -5
So AU’s straight-up U14s were losing to CF Platinum U14 0-2 at the half. Then they bring in two 06 U15 “bio-banded” players (which is a farce - they were the biggest players on the field) to play the whole second half against a team with only 3 real defenders and therefore zero defensive subs.
All you parents constantly talking about them playing kids up in age group, just shut your mouths. That place kills players and this latest classless act is from your academy. Remember one thing - it’s run by the same people the run the Falcons with the addition of some European flunkies sprinkled throughout.
They are they Cobra Kai of Atlanta soccer and they’re always willing to sweep the leg.
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Post by disturbed on Sept 27, 2020 16:09:14 GMT -5
I'm assuming that AU came back and won? When did they play?
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Sept 27, 2020 16:31:40 GMT -5
Of course they did, but you’ll not hear the score from me as it was ill-gotten gains! Played this morning at GSP.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 27, 2020 16:47:10 GMT -5
Confused
This was an ecnl game?
Since when does ecnl allow biobanded players?
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 27, 2020 16:48:02 GMT -5
I wasnt aware that ECNL allowed bio-banding and that U15 trap year players (born August-December) could only play U14 in the spring. I read the ECNL (girls) rules on this a year ago and this doesn't seem allowable. Unless the boys have different rules.
ECNL rules are up om the website.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Sept 27, 2020 16:55:43 GMT -5
Yeah, well, it happened. Who knows what counts with ECNL. Just very disturbing.
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Post by flix on Sept 27, 2020 16:59:46 GMT -5
So AU’s straight-up U14s were losing to CF Platinum U14 0-2 at the half. Then they bring in two 06 U15 “bio-banded” players (which is a farce - they were the biggest players on the field) to play the whole second half against a team with only 3 real defenders and therefore zero defensive subs. All you parents constantly talking about them playing kids up in age group, just shut your mouths. That place kills players and this latest classless act is from your academy. Remember one thing - it’s run by the same people the run the Falcons with the addition of some European flunkies sprinkled throughout. They are they Cobra Kai of Atlanta soccer and they’re always willing to sweep the leg. I know this won’t sway your opinion in any shape form or fashion. I don’t believe it was an evil grand scheme to bring in two bio-banded players to orchestrate an unstoppable comeback. If you start one match, you come off the bench the next match. Neither one of those boys are huge nor did they dominate the match because they are bio-banded. In my opinion what happened is on the Concorde coach. First half their back line was solid. Second half he fiddled with that back line and midfield (I even heard him getting on one kid in particular he had just put in the midfield about certain tasks he wasn’t completing). Also his method of subbing was somewhat strange, seemed like some boys didn’t have time to get in a groove before being taken off. Once AU got the first goal, they smelled blood and Concorde seemed to Succumb to attrition. To my understanding the 13’s were the only group to play up this past week drawing 2-2 with Concorde’s u14 premier. I don’t think most parents at AU think it’s some magical place but it sure seems to have outsiders feeling certain kinds of ways about it. You kinda remind me of when Kobra Kai rolled up on little Danielle in the locker room before the All Valley Tournament kicked off..... “he’s gonna cryyy”😂 you are passionate about your positions and I respect that. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 27, 2020 17:09:52 GMT -5
If they're 2024 grad year, no way it's legal. Again, unless something has changed, there is no bio-banding in ECNL. And trap year only affects the spring. So maybe AU thought they can do something they can't. If so I'm pretty sure it's a forfeit if it were challenged. There's a paper trail...
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 27, 2020 17:14:49 GMT -5
Agree - I’ve heard nothing of biobanding allowed in the fall.
Not even sure how they could get on the official game roster either, would think the US club system wouldn’t even allow them to be added to game day roster.
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Post by guerillaman on Sept 27, 2020 17:17:46 GMT -5
Not questioning the poster
But can anyone else confirm this?
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Sept 27, 2020 17:31:04 GMT -5
Yeah, well, it happened. Who knows what counts with ECNL. Just very disturbing. There is no bio banding in ECNL. It wouldn't let me cut and paste the rules but the rules specifically say "players can play for their own age group or older age groups". And U15 "trapped" players can only play "during the players sanctioned high school soccer association's competition season" which is the Spring in Georgia. ECNL rules also only allow you to play in one ECNL game per day or per fixture. I saw in another thread someone saying their U17 goalie could play in both U17 and U19 games in one day in ECNL. That is not allowed either. But then again, ECNL rules also state club's must field a team at every age group. AU doesn't. And MLS rules state players can't play in any other leagues. AU plays in both MLS and ECNL. So I think it is fair to say the rules don't really apply to AU. |
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Sept 27, 2020 17:34:06 GMT -5
Agree - I’ve heard nothing of biobanding allowed in the fall. Not even sure how they could get on the official game roster either, would think the US club system wouldn’t even allow them to be added to game day roster. For ECNL you can just write in "play ups". So I suppose they could have just hand written them in. But someone should have noticed/checked that. |
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Sept 27, 2020 17:38:15 GMT -5
Not questioning the poster But can anyone else confirm this? Sounds like flix up above is on the AU team and just confirmed it. |
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Post by flix on Sept 27, 2020 18:02:53 GMT -5
There are actually three who are bio-banded but one played in the u15 match. AU had one kid out, another who was injured and only played about 10-15 min (he is an 07 and is the biggest player they have NOT the bio-banded kids that played). They have trained all season with them and did not drop down specially to play Concorde to have an advantage. I only saw 07’s score goals not any bio-banded boys with a huge advantage. These matches don’t even count! Why all the hoopla? I heard the Concorde Premier 14’s beat the Platinum 3-1, if the 13’s drew 2-2 with Premier, then maybe the 13’s should play Platinum next time and it will be a fair match. I’m not sure why people are getting so bent out of shape about 13 year olds.
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Post by soccergator on Sept 27, 2020 18:35:14 GMT -5
If bio-banding is allowed, seems they forgot to tell the other clubs besides Atlanta United.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 27, 2020 18:44:23 GMT -5
If the matches don't count then it doesn't really matter.
But if they're 07's rostered up with the 06 team that played with their age group, i don't think there's a problem on ECNL. Georgia soccer won't let you do it (I think you have to play up a level), but its allowed in ECNL. But what the poster said about one ECNL match per day is also accurate.
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Post by soccerdad76 on Sept 27, 2020 18:54:58 GMT -5
Does AU roster kids with ECNL at their given age, and then choose game by game if the uXX - 1 or uXX team plays? I’m still sore there is no AU ECNL team registered at u13, and (if true) to see they don’t always play depending on the competition at u14 makes it even more annoying. We’d have been happy to play them this weekend if they wanted a good game. 👌
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 27, 2020 19:03:25 GMT -5
When I read the rules it basically said it doesn’t matter where a player is actually rostered they can always play on any team they can age appropriately play on. So if a 07 is rostered with 06s, it’s doesn’t keep them from being eligible for the 07 game rosters. But 06s shouldn’t be allowed to play with 07s based upon what I was told by our DOC back in June that ecnl doesn’t allow bios. Maybe that has changed or maybe it’s only for the 13s and 14s. Either way news to me for sure. I might have been reading the girls vs boys rules. New website isn’t all there. No mention of biobanding in the competion rules www.theecnl.com/resources/ |
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Post by rifle on Sept 27, 2020 19:41:02 GMT -5
....... I’m not sure why people are getting so bent out of shape about 13 year olds. Because parents think club soccer is...... Ah nevermind. |
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Post by bogan on Sept 27, 2020 19:41:36 GMT -5
....... I’m not sure why people are getting so bent out of shape about 13 year olds. Because parents think club soccer is...... Ah nevermind. 🤣 |
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Post by ecnlquestions on Sept 27, 2020 19:48:57 GMT -5
If the matches don't count then it doesn't really matter. But if they're 07's rostered up with the 06 team that played with their age group, i don't think there's a problem on ECNL. Georgia soccer won't let you do it (I think you have to play up a level), but its allowed in ECNL. But what the poster said about one ECNL match per day is also accurate. Does anybody actually know if they count or not? |
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Post by soccergurl on Sept 27, 2020 20:34:02 GMT -5
So AU’s straight-up U14s were losing to CF Platinum U14 0-2 at the half. Then they bring in two 06 U15 “bio-banded” players (which is a farce - they were the biggest players on the field) to play the whole second half against a team with only 3 real defenders and therefore zero defensive subs. All you parents constantly talking about them playing kids up in age group, just shut your mouths. That place kills players and this latest classless act is from your academy. Remember one thing - it’s run by the same people the run the Falcons with the addition of some European flunkies sprinkled throughout. They are they Cobra Kai of Atlanta soccer and they’re always willing to sweep the leg. y u mad bro  any other scores? |
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Post by footballer on Sept 27, 2020 21:15:23 GMT -5
If this has been KSA? Bruno and the entire staff would have been called all sorts of things. Good to see OP is not biased and willing to call out AU.
Really much ado about nothing. Both team coaches probably knew what was going on. I doubt they tried to sneak in overage players to get a win in a friendly
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 27, 2020 21:18:15 GMT -5
Ok - confused even more
We’re these not sanctioned ecnl games in question?
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 27, 2020 21:57:48 GMT -5
If it was a couple 07s playing in an 07 game, i don't think theres anything more to say. They could play for the Brazilian national team, but it's not dirty or cheating by any means. It's not like they played a 20 year old in a U17 game or anything. ECNL as a part of US Club requires birth certificates after all.
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Post by flix on Sept 28, 2020 8:45:05 GMT -5
Does AU roster kids with ECNL at their given age, and then choose game by game if the uXX - 1 or uXX team plays? I’m still sore there is no AU ECNL team registered at u13, and (if true) to see they don’t always play depending on the competition at u14 makes it even more annoying. We’d have been happy to play them this weekend if they wanted a good game. 👌 To be honest, nobody knows. They have only played two ECNL matches but they did play up an age group. Now Concorde Fire is different because they have multiple teams at certain age groups so that’s why the Premier team played the 13’s and Platinum played the 14’s ( WITH THOSE HUGE bio-banded boys). It’s not a situation where some 13’s play up and others don’t so they have no match for the weekend and are free. I don’t know which club your son plays for (I could assume Concorde as you said you were off this weekend, but I could be wrong) but if he’s playing ECNL there are good teams out there in your league. Don’t put so much into playing one match. I think at some point they would play all their local competition at their own age group in ECNL before the season is over but I wouldn’t be annoyed by it. People can always set up some pick up. We as parents don’t have to be trapped into league play. |
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Post by localsoccernovice on Sept 28, 2020 10:41:44 GMT -5
There’s no way the AU games count for ECNL standings. First, they are not listed in the standings list. Second, they constantly mix & match players/teams at different age groups. Third, I overheard a coach tell his players that game doesn’t matter (for standings). So, just RLEAX and let the kids play the games and learn and have fun.
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Post by riyan3hartono on Sept 28, 2020 11:42:28 GMT -5
So AU’s straight-up U14s were losing to CF Platinum U14 0-2 at the half. Then they bring in two 06 U15 “bio-banded” players (which is a farce - they were the biggest players on the field) to play the whole second half against a team with only 3 real defenders and therefore zero defensive subs. All you parents constantly talking about them playing kids up in age group, just shut your mouths. That place kills players and this latest classless act is from your academy. Remember one thing - it’s run by the same people the run the Falcons with the addition of some European flunkies sprinkled throughout. They are they Cobra Kai of Atlanta soccer and they’re always willing to sweep the leg. |
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Post by riyan3hartono on Sept 28, 2020 11:43:12 GMT -5
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Post by riyan3hartono on Sept 28, 2020 11:44:10 GMT -5
If they're 2024 grad year, no way it's legal. Again, unless something has changed, there is no bio-banding in ECNL. And trap year only affects the spring. So maybe AU thought they can do something they can't. If so I'm pretty sure it's a forfeit if it were challenged. There's a paper trail... |
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any other scores?
