|
|
Post by 04gparent on Feb 6, 2021 19:19:52 GMT -5
How does this impact the alliance with Concorde? I dont think this will impact the older age groups much... /photo/1 |
|
|
|
Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 6, 2021 19:45:13 GMT -5
I was just wondering the same thing. Will Concorde just have their "own" players do ECNL and SSA top team play GA? The whole alliance thing was kind of weird.
|
|
|
|
Post by ball2futbol on Feb 6, 2021 19:50:23 GMT -5
Or are they moving their NPL teams over to GAL?
|
|
|
|
Post by roki12 on Feb 6, 2021 21:05:22 GMT -5
I was just wondering the same thing. Will Concorde just have their "own" players do ECNL and SSA top team play GA? The whole alliance thing was kind of weird. Yes. Will be interested to see if Concorde will be allowed to keep two teams in ECNL. |
|
|
|
Post by Futsal Gawdess on Feb 7, 2021 16:05:43 GMT -5
I was just wondering the same thing. Will Concorde just have their "own" players do ECNL and SSA top team play GA? The whole alliance thing was kind of weird. Yes. Will be interested to see if Concorde will be allowed to keep two teams in ECNL. Just wondering out loud....With 5 ECNL teams "allocated" for the metro Atlanta region, will CF be able to sustain 2 teams out of one location? If not, will one of the original GAL founders finally "inherit" rights to field an ECNL team? If this unnamed team gets the rights to field an ECNL team, will they stay in the GAL and if so what league will be "tops" 🤔 |
|
|
|
Post by roki12 on Feb 7, 2021 16:13:59 GMT -5
Yes. Will be interested to see if Concorde will be allowed to keep two teams in ECNL. Just wondering out loud....With 5 ECNL teams "allocated" for the metro Atlanta region, will CF be able to sustain 2 teams out of one location? If not, will one of the original GAL founders finally "inherit" rights to field an ECNL team? If this unnamed team gets the rights to field an ECNL team, will they stay in the GAL and if so what league will be "tops" 🤔 Then things would get really interesting! |
|
|
|
Post by mightydawg on Feb 7, 2021 16:40:47 GMT -5
We have been through this before. If that local team is not willing to put its top team in ECNL, it won’t get in. If it is willing, what is the point of GAL and DPL in southeast.
|
|
|
|
Post by roki12 on Feb 7, 2021 16:52:20 GMT -5
We have been through this before. If that local team is not willing to put its top team in ECNL, it won’t get in. If it is willing, what is the point of GAL and DPL in southeast. At the end of the day, money talks. If putting their top teams in ECNL would keep / bring back/ attract players, what reason would they have not to? |
|
|
|
Post by roki12 on Feb 7, 2021 19:12:00 GMT -5
Then things would get really interesting! Then GAL would basically be NPL in the southeast I can’t lie. I would love to see it. CF: we are the best club, we have two ECNL teams TH: hold my beer |
|
|
|
Post by soccergirldad on Feb 8, 2021 8:26:59 GMT -5
Yes. Will be interested to see if Concorde will be allowed to keep two teams in ECNL. Just wondering out loud....With 5 ECNL teams "allocated" for the metro Atlanta region, will CF be able to sustain 2 teams out of one location? If not, will one of the original GAL founders finally "inherit" rights to field an ECNL team? If this unnamed team gets the rights to field an ECNL team, will they stay in the GAL and if so what league will be "tops" 🤔 Just within the last two weeks, that "unnamed teamed" was AGAIN denied entry into ECNL. So even though SSA is going to GAL, because the contract is up at the end of the season, that "unnamed team" is still trying, begging to get into ECNL, through the backdoor. Now assuming Concorde gets to keep two ECNL teams, mo money mo money mo money, it will interesting to see if any of the SSA girls stay to make it on an ECNL team and how many girls from that "unnamed team" go over to Concorde to try to get on an ECNL team. The soccer drama never stops!! |
|
|
|
Post by roki12 on Feb 8, 2021 8:44:48 GMT -5
Just wondering out loud....With 5 ECNL teams "allocated" for the metro Atlanta region, will CF be able to sustain 2 teams out of one location? If not, will one of the original GAL founders finally "inherit" rights to field an ECNL team? If this unnamed team gets the rights to field an ECNL team, will they stay in the GAL and if so what league will be "tops" 🤔 Just within the last two weeks, that "unnamed teamed" was AGAIN denied entry into ECNL. So even though SSA is going to GAL, because the contract is up at the end of the season, that "unnamed team" is still trying, begging to get into ECNL, through the backdoor. Now assuming Concorde gets to keep two ECNL teams, mo money mo money mo money, it will interesting to see if any of the SSA girls stay to make it on an ECNL team and how many girls from that "unnamed team" go over to Concorde to try to get on an ECNL team. The soccer drama never stops!! If TH meets all the eligibility criteria and submits an application, what reason would ECNL have to shut them out? If you take the politics out, based on their historical success their application would be strong. |
|
|
|
Post by soccergirldad on Feb 8, 2021 8:52:50 GMT -5
Just within the last two weeks, that "unnamed teamed" was AGAIN denied entry into ECNL. So even though SSA is going to GAL, because the contract is up at the end of the season, that "unnamed team" is still trying, begging to get into ECNL, through the backdoor. Now assuming Concorde gets to keep two ECNL teams, mo money mo money mo money, it will interesting to see if any of the SSA girls stay to make it on an ECNL team and how many girls from that "unnamed team" go over to Concorde to try to get on an ECNL team. The soccer drama never stops!! If TH meets all the eligibility criteria and submits an application, what reason would ECNL have to shut them out? If you take the politics out, based on their historical success their application would be strong. C'mon roki12, everone "knows" why TH won't get in anytime soon. I'm sure if you ask around there will be plenty of people that can fill you in.....As a matter of fact, you should start with the TH DOC. |
|
|
|
Post by roki12 on Feb 8, 2021 9:04:44 GMT -5
If TH meets all the eligibility criteria and submits an application, what reason would ECNL have to shut them out? If you take the politics out, based on their historical success their application would be strong. C'mon roki12, everone "knows" why TH won't get in anytime soon. I'm sure if you ask around there will be plenty of people that can fill you in.....As a matter of fact, you should start with the TH DOC. I have heard that it because the TH DOC is a di*k head, but seriously? Is that it? Both sides need to get over their egos. If TH has been “begging” it seems to me they are acknowledging they were wrong. |
|
|
|
Post by justwatching on Feb 8, 2021 9:08:12 GMT -5
If TH meets all the eligibility criteria and submits an application, what reason would ECNL have to shut them out? If you take the politics out, based on their historical success their application would be strong. C'mon roki12, everone "knows" why TH won't get in anytime soon. I'm sure if you ask around there will be plenty of people that can fill you in.....As a matter of fact, you should start with the TH DOC. Does TH even still want to get into ECNL? There are a lot of strong moves being made in GAL that might make you think they are not that concerned with getting ECNL and would rather strengthen GAL. |
|
|
|
Post by Keeper on Feb 8, 2021 10:46:47 GMT -5
C'mon roki12, everone "knows" why TH won't get in anytime soon. I'm sure if you ask around there will be plenty of people that can fill you in.....As a matter of fact, you should start with the TH DOC. I have heard that it because the TH DOC is a di*k head, but seriously? Is that it? Both sides need to get over their egos. If TH has been “begging” it seems to me they are acknowledging they were wrong. One, if NTH really is “begging” to get back into ECNL then they need to change up their leadership at the top because he’s part of the problem. Two, is NTH putting in their first or second team into ECNL? If it’s not their first team like everyone else then that right there is a major reason to deny entry. Either be all in, or not in at all. |
|
|
|
Post by Futsal Gawdess on Feb 8, 2021 10:59:25 GMT -5
Does TH even still want to get into ECNL? There are a lot of strong moves being made in GAL that might make you think they are not that concerned with getting ECNL and would rather strengthen GAL. Yes they do, recently tried to regain entry. Devils advocate: if they were approved, would they make ECNL tops and move down GAL? Should clubs looking to join GAL be weary that even with a commanding foothold in GAL they are still surreptitiously trying to claw their way back into ECNL? With the addition of clubs like SSA, AFC, Surf and Palm Beach, does the unnamed team keep the top team and the lesser 2nd team in GAL or do those players tire of playing 2nd fiddle move to assume the mantle at one of the new clubs...? p.s. With SSA getting a spot in GAL, how does that gel with their pending WPSL expansion - www.ssaelite.com/Default.aspx?tabid=668080 |
|
|
|
Post by soccerlegacy on Feb 8, 2021 12:31:06 GMT -5
Yes they do, recently tried to regain entry. Devils advocate: if they were approved, would they make ECNL tops and move down GAL? Should clubs looking to join GAL be weary that even with a commanding foothold in GAL they are still surreptitiously trying to claw their way back into ECNL? With the addition of clubs like SSA, AFC, Surf and Palm Beach, does the unnamed team keep the top team and the lesser 2nd team in GAL or do those players tire of playing 2nd fiddle move to assume the mantle at one of the new clubs...? p.s. With SSA getting a spot in GAL, how does that gel with their pending WPSL expansion - www.ssaelite.com/Default.aspx?tabid=668080Until I am blue in the face I will continue saying that this is just a money grab clout chasing move to create a new league. If US soccer gave a s**t about kids they would have one league in which all the top teams played. That’s not the case it’s all about money. I tend to agree, but I always have to remind myself that they don't see this as being "about the kids or developing soccer"... I mean, sure, that is somewhere in their thoughts, but it's WAY down the list. Nope, it's a business first and foremost, regardless of it being "non-profit". |
|
|
|
Post by Keeper on Feb 8, 2021 12:38:20 GMT -5
Yes they do, recently tried to regain entry. Devils advocate: if they were approved, would they make ECNL tops and move down GAL? Should clubs looking to join GAL be weary that even with a commanding foothold in GAL they are still surreptitiously trying to claw their way back into ECNL? With the addition of clubs like SSA, AFC, Surf and Palm Beach, does the unnamed team keep the top team and the lesser 2nd team in GAL or do those players tire of playing 2nd fiddle move to assume the mantle at one of the new clubs...? p.s. With SSA getting a spot in GAL, how does that gel with their pending WPSL expansion - www.ssaelite.com/Default.aspx?tabid=668080Until I am blue in the face I will continue saying that this is just a money grab clout chasing move to create a new league. If US soccer gave a s**t about kids they would have one league in which all the top teams played. That’s not the case it’s all about money. Mmmm yes a capitalist world… One league = socialism winning |
|
|
|
Post by Keeper on Feb 8, 2021 20:47:18 GMT -5
Mmmm yes a capitalist world… One league = socialism winning Very far from being a socialist but when you have four or five leagues competing for the top do you ever really match up best talent to best talent? If you have a child who can make any team and you live in an area that had all the leagues at your disposal which league would you pick? E C N L All day everyday…. |
|
|
|
Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 8, 2021 21:02:28 GMT -5
Mmmm yes a capitalist world… One league = socialism winning Very far from being a socialist but when you have four or five leagues competing for the top do you ever really match up best talent to best talent? If you have a child who can make any team and you live in an area that had all the leagues at your disposal which league would you pick? The one with the best coach for my kid balancing that with competitive league. In some ways it is like college. You gotta have a good fit |
|
|
|
Post by Futsal Gawdess on Feb 8, 2021 21:09:00 GMT -5
No offense to the smorgasbord of alphabet soup soccer leagues out there: But if I had to do it all over again, in today's landscape, I would put my daughter in ECNL without hesitation. They took on and beat back US Soccer and Girls DA and have over a dozen years under their belt. They do what they do and do it well and make no apologies for it. For my son, if he is good enough to join an MLS academy I would do that, but only if he was 15 or older. I think MLS clubs in the earlier years, sometimes stifle imagination, creativity and individualism, especially in the pivotal years of 10 - 14. I would have him in everything during those pivotal years, 3v3 tourneys, futsal, winter indoor, middle school ball, ODP, privates, kick-arounds, finishing clinics. Additionally, if he were good enough I would seize every opportunity to play up even if it is with an inferior team to gain the experience of playing at a faster pace and against bigger and stronger boys. Again, just my 2 1/2 cents...
|
|
|
|
Post by soccermaxx72 on Feb 9, 2021 10:18:04 GMT -5
No offense to the smorgasbord of alphabet soup soccer leagues out there: But if I had to do it all over again, in today's landscape, I would put my daughter in ECNL without hesitation. They took on and beat back US Soccer and Girls DA and have over a dozen years under their belt. They do what they do and do it well and make no apologies for it. For my son, if he is good enough to join an MLS academy I would do that, but only if he was 15 or older. I think MLS clubs in the earlier years, sometimes stifle imagination, creativity and individualism, especially in the pivotal years of 10 - 14. I would have him in everything during those pivotal years, 3v3 tourneys, futsal, winter indoor, middle school ball, ODP, privates, kick-arounds, finishing clinics. Additionally, if he were good enough I would seize every opportunity to play up even if it is with an inferior team to gain the experience of playing at a faster pace and against bigger and stronger boys. Again, just my 2 1/2 cents... 100% this and couldn’t agree more especially on the girls side. With a daughter who is a 2023 grad and filling out recruit questionnaire and id camp info all the colleges have a box to click for if your daughter plays ecnl and what ecnl showcases they attend. ECNL is easiest path to eyeballs and credibility. Will some schools look at other leagues, sure but it is a much more difficult task to grab their attention. |
|
|
|
Post by 04gparent on Feb 9, 2021 13:02:48 GMT -5
No offense to the smorgasbord of alphabet soup soccer leagues out there: But if I had to do it all over again, in today's landscape, I would put my daughter in ECNL without hesitation. They took on and beat back US Soccer and Girls DA and have over a dozen years under their belt. They do what they do and do it well and make no apologies for it. For my son, if he is good enough to join an MLS academy I would do that, but only if he was 15 or older. I think MLS clubs in the earlier years, sometimes stifle imagination, creativity and individualism, especially in the pivotal years of 10 - 14. I would have him in everything during those pivotal years, 3v3 tourneys, futsal, winter indoor, middle school ball, ODP, privates, kick-arounds, finishing clinics. Additionally, if he were good enough I would seize every opportunity to play up even if it is with an inferior team to gain the experience of playing at a faster pace and against bigger and stronger boys. Again, just my 2 1/2 cents... 100% this and couldn’t agree more especially on the girls side. With a daughter who is a 2023 grad and filling out recruit questionnaire and id camp info all the colleges have a box to click for if your daughter plays ecnl and what ecnl showcases they attend. ECNL is easiest path to eyeballs and credibility. Will some schools look at other leagues, sure but it is a much more difficult task to grab their attention. I hate to disagree with you all, but the answer is a little more complicated. I am only talking about girls only. Yes, ECNL has over the last 15 years built a great brand. US Soccer had no business getting into the girls side of soccer, especially without meeting with ECNL and creating a unified platform. Having gone to many in person showcases, the coaches flock to field where the talent is playing. Most showcases are played where there is 15 or more fields. If you are on a bad team with no players that have been called into national team camp it is hard to get attention (even in ECNL). I have seen 2 fields side by side with one field with 50+ coaches and the other with less than 7 coaches. Same age group! You ask yourself why? Many college coaches have said that having 2 leagues waters them BOTH down. The job of college recruiters is harder because they have to track talent across 2, 3, or 4 leagues. This weekend is a great example. There is a GA showcase (1st one ever) and an ECNL showcase the same weekend. Both leagues have college coaches listed. Most will have to watch virtually due to recruiting dead period. Both college coaches list are impressive. You can go look for yourself. We all wish there was a unified way for everyone to earn a way to play each other. We had that a long time ago with USYS before ECNL was created. It will never go back to the way it was... |
|
|
|
Post by BubbleDad on Feb 10, 2021 2:02:19 GMT -5
Let's take the Raleigh showcase for example ... NTH sent their navy teams for each age group but not their gold.
This gives the navy teams time to shine and see how they will perform. The navy and dpl teams did well in the top and 2nd brackets for the 06 age group.
Even if there was one league ... politics would be involved. Girls that could be playing higher could get the shaft b/c their club is stacked, they weren't able to get a tryout with a higher team, financial situations ... no matter what ... corruption will rear its ugly head.
All of this shizat is unfair. I've blacked out on youth soccer and focused on summer pick up games and college ID camps.
|
|
|
|
Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 10, 2021 11:43:03 GMT -5
It appears that SSA has joined DPL as well so I would guess they are leaving NPL?
|
|
|
|
Post by southsoccerfam on Feb 10, 2021 21:41:47 GMT -5
AFC Lightning will also have their second teams in DPL in the Fall and will not have NPL teams.. The current NPL teams (top) will be in the GA going forward and the second teams will do DPL.. The age groups that have 3rd or 4th teams will stay in Georgia Soccer.. Hope they are able to recruit some players or I fear their top 2 teams in most age groups will have a rough go of it..time will tell...
|
|
|
|
Post by greenmonkey on Feb 10, 2021 23:00:59 GMT -5
AFC Lightning will also have their second teams in DPL in the Fall and will not have NPL teams.. The current NPL teams (top) will be in the GA going forward and the second teams will do DPL.. The age groups that have 3rd or 4th teams will stay in Georgia Soccer.. Hope they are able to recruit some players or I fear their top 2 teams in most age groups will have a rough go of it..time will tell... WAIT WHAT? SSA won't be in NPL AFC won't be in NPL SO ... Where is UFA sending their NPL teams? |
|
|
|
Post by Keeper on Feb 11, 2021 2:11:36 GMT -5
AFC Lightning will also have their second teams in DPL in the Fall and will not have NPL teams.. The current NPL teams (top) will be in the GA going forward and the second teams will do DPL.. The age groups that have 3rd or 4th teams will stay in Georgia Soccer.. Hope they are able to recruit some players or I fear their top 2 teams in most age groups will have a rough go of it..time will tell... WAIT WHAT? SSA won't be in NPL AFC won't be in NPL SO ... Where is UFA sending their NPL teams? Alabama and Tennessee, with possibly some new Carolina clubs too. Or they’ll be combine with Northern FL. I know those UFA parents are demanding to spend money like ECNL parents so by playing in FL every other weekend. |
|
|
|
Post by cleansheet on Feb 14, 2021 15:47:30 GMT -5
AFC Lightning will also have their second teams in DPL in the Fall and will not have NPL teams.. The current NPL teams (top) will be in the GA going forward and the second teams will do DPL.. The age groups that have 3rd or 4th teams will stay in Georgia Soccer.. Hope they are able to recruit some players or I fear their top 2 teams in most age groups will have a rough go of it..time will tell... WAIT WHAT? SSA won't be in NPL AFC won't be in NPL SO ... Where is UFA sending their NPL teams? What will afc and ssa boys teams do, leave npl too? |
|
|
|
Post by bogan on Feb 14, 2021 16:22:09 GMT -5
WAIT WHAT? SSA won't be in NPL AFC won't be in NPL SO ... Where is UFA sending their NPL teams? What will afc and ssa boys teams do, leave npl too? Where would they go? |
|
