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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 2, 2021 16:57:50 GMT -5
I’m assuming even though it will be watered down, the big clubs will want to be the club division since they control that
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Post by mightydawg on May 2, 2021 17:20:01 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 3, 2021 7:58:46 GMT -5
I’m assuming even though it will be watered down, the big clubs will want to be the club division since they control that Always with the bashing of SCCL. We get it you don't like SCCL. You have made that perfectly clear on here for the last 3 years. Next time when posting why not explain your reasoning for your post like why do you think it will be "watered down" as you say. At least then we can have a discussion instead of your once every few months jab at them with no substance in your posts. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 3, 2021 8:18:28 GMT -5
I’m assuming even though it will be watered down, the big clubs will want to be the club division since they control that Always with the bashing of SCCL. We get it you don't like SCCL. You have made that perfectly clear on here for the last 3 years. Next time when posting why not explain your reasoning for your post like why do you think it will be "watered down" as you say. At least then we can have a discussion instead of your once every few months jab at them with no substance in your posts. For the girls' side, the top of SCCL will be watered down, no question. Would you disagree? I know very little about the boys' side, so I'll limit my comments to just the girls. Santos is taking their top teams out of SCCL and going to DPL. Concorde, AFU and GSA SCCL-C teams will essentially slide up to play ECRL. And while UFA's SCCL-C teams aren't really taking the ECRL spots since their NPL teams will take those, the SCCL-C teams haven't exactly been killing it on the pitch. Not sure what Ambush is doing. Rush Union teams have been weak. No idea how all of this will impact what TopHat does with their SCCL-C teams. I would assume that SSA's move to GAL/DPL or whatever will impact their SCCL-C team. |
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Post by footyfan on May 3, 2021 10:57:29 GMT -5
With some clubs now placing teams in leagues (MLS_Next, ECNL, ECRL, GAL, DPL) where they weren't last year, of course NPL, SCCL and Georgia Soccer will be "watered down" more. The questions I have are: how much player-loss affects any given team (whole team move up, just some players move up, no players leave, etc)
Even though the lower leagues (NPL, SCCL, GA Soccer) will be less competitive as compared to other whole leagues, the games may still be competitive WITHIN the league, which is good- it may lead to more parity.
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Post by Brinker on May 3, 2021 11:14:10 GMT -5
I’m assuming even though it will be watered down, the big clubs will want to be the club division since they control that Yes but I assume teams will prefer ECRL. So SCCL will drop down lower. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 3, 2021 11:25:52 GMT -5
Here is a comparison what girls SCCL-Club will look like next year compared to this year?
AFU from 2nd team to 3rd team
Ambush 1st team
BUSA not sure. If joining ECRL, 2nd team to 3rd team. If not, then still 2nd team.
Concorde from 3rd team to 4th team (really 5th team but Red Star is filling an ECRL spot)
FC Alliance--out
GSA from 2nd team to 3rd team
NTH still 4th team
Roswell from 1st team to 2nd team
Rush Union still 1st team but did not have teams at each age group
SSA from 2nd team to 3rd team
UFA 3rd team
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 3, 2021 11:28:20 GMT -5
SCCL club will be the 3rd team at AFU, GSA and SSA. SCCL club will be the 4th team at NTH (assuming they dont get 2 teams in DPL). SCCL club will be the 5th team at Concorde (will give them benefit of the doubt as CFC is now part of CF). UFA Norcross should own SCCL club on the girls side (assuming they can field teams).
I doubt BUSA puts their 3rd teams in SCCL. Does Roswell even stay in SCCL?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 3, 2021 11:30:11 GMT -5
Here is a comparison what girls SCCL-Club will look like next year compared to this year? AFU from 2nd team to 3rd team Ambush 1st team BUSA not sure. If joining ECRL, 2nd team to 3rd team. If not, then still 2nd team. Concorde from 3rd team to 4th team (really 5th team but Red Star is filling an ECRL spot) FC Alliance--out GSA from 2nd team to 3rd team NTH still 4th team Roswell from 1st team to 2nd team Rush Union still 1st team but did not have teams at each age group SSA from 2nd team to 3rd team UFA 3rd team Forgot about BUSA in my earlier post on this - yes, they're doing ECRL too. So SCCL-C will go from 2nd team to 3rd team for them. |
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Post by rifle on May 3, 2021 11:32:15 GMT -5
Club soccer below the obvious top (of the food chain) is such a soup sandwich.
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Post by mightydawg on May 3, 2021 11:34:42 GMT -5
SCCL club will be the 3rd team at AFU, GSA and SSA. SCCL club will be the 4th team at NTH (assuming they dont get 2 teams in DPL). SCCL club will be the 5th team at Concorde (will give them benefit of the doubt as CFC is now part of CF). UFA Norcross should own SCCL club on the girls side (assuming they can field teams).
I doubt BUSA puts their 3rd teams in SCCL. Does Roswell even stay in SCCL?
Yes, Roswell is staying in SCCL. It will be the top team for boys and second team for girls. |
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Post by BubbleDad on May 3, 2021 11:39:44 GMT -5
SCCL club will be the 3rd team at AFU, GSA and SSA. SCCL club will be the 4th team at NTH (assuming they dont get 2 teams in DPL). SCCL club will be the 5th team at Concorde (will give them benefit of the doubt as CFC is now part of CF). UFA Norcross should own SCCL club on the girls side (assuming they can field teams).
I doubt BUSA puts their 3rd teams in SCCL. Does Roswell even stay in SCCL?
OMG ... didn't even think about Tophat possibly doing 2 teams in DPL. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 3, 2021 11:41:58 GMT -5
Maybe they won't? But with Concorde getting 2 ECRL spots, I wouldn't put it past them. Gotta keep up with the Joneses.
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Post by mightydawg on May 3, 2021 11:46:34 GMT -5
SCCL club will be the 3rd team at AFU, GSA and SSA. SCCL club will be the 4th team at NTH (assuming they dont get 2 teams in DPL). SCCL club will be the 5th team at Concorde (will give them benefit of the doubt as CFC is now part of CF). UFA Norcross should own SCCL club on the girls side (assuming they can field teams).
I doubt BUSA puts their 3rd teams in SCCL. Does Roswell even stay in SCCL?
Hard to really call it Concorde's 5th team since Columbus is slotting into one of the ECRL spots and is located so far away. A fairer, more accurate description would be the 4th team from Central. |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on May 3, 2021 11:52:39 GMT -5
I’m assuming even though it will be watered down, the big clubs will want to be the club division since they control that Always with the bashing of SCCL. We get it you don't like SCCL. You have made that perfectly clear on here for the last 3 years. Next time when posting why not explain your reasoning for your post like why do you think it will be "watered down" as you say. At least then we can have a discussion instead of your once every few months jab at them with no substance in your posts. This was not bashing SCCL, this was clearly asking if there will continue to be the top SCCL Club division with all of those teams moving to ECRL. I know there will continue to be SCCL, just wondering if next season all levels of SCCL will be open to all SCCL club not just the original big clubs |
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Post by flamengo100 on May 3, 2021 12:41:37 GMT -5
What do we know on the Boys Side?
UFA Norcross is going to NPL so does that mean UFA Red will join SCCL Club as UFA Forsyth Premier will likely go from NPL to ECRL?
What about AFU and GSA who have ECRL? I think they could bring in different branches like AFU South or GSA North to the Club level which may not be too different depending on the age group.
I think they have to continue the SuperClub idea and brining in the top SCCL Premier team. Look at the 07 Boys team- GA Express Elite who went 12-0 with a +54 Goal Diff.
GA Express likely couldn't field competitive team at the Club level for each group but that team certainly should be in the top division for the 07 Boys.
I also think the SCCL need to find another club to replace FC Alliance. I'm not sure who that could be from the Atl area but there a few out there in GA Soccer like Athens United, Augusta, Decatur?
Finally- I don't know if it will be this year or the next but I anticipate the big clubs to continue with their expansions of the smaller clubs specifically on the North Side. Too many teams for everyone to be successful in Alpharetta/Milton (Concorde North, Rush Union, NASA Milton, Ambush). Not too mention GA Express and Roswell close by.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 3, 2021 12:53:20 GMT -5
Really, with the addition of DPL and ECRL into the landscape, SCCL club shouldn't really exist. SCCL-1 should be the top flight and the winners get a spot in US Club Nationals. Pro/rel below that.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 3, 2021 16:40:28 GMT -5
What do we know on the Boys Side? UFA Norcross is going to NPL so does that mean UFA Red will join SCCL Club as UFA Forsyth Premier will likely go from NPL to ECRL? What about AFU and GSA who have ECRL? I think they could bring in different branches like AFU South or GSA North to the Club level which may not be too different depending on the age group. I think they have to continue the SuperClub idea and brining in the top SCCL Premier team. Look at the 07 Boys team- GA Express Elite who went 12-0 with a +54 Goal Diff. GA Express likely couldn't field competitive team at the Club level for each group but that team certainly should be in the top division for the 07 Boys. I also think the SCCL need to find another club to replace FC Alliance. I'm not sure who that could be from the Atl area but there a few out there in GA Soccer like Athens United, Augusta, Decatur? Finally- I don't know if it will be this year or the next but I anticipate the big clubs to continue with their expansions of the smaller clubs specifically on the North Side. Too many teams for everyone to be successful in Alpharetta/Milton (Concorde North, Rush Union, NASA Milton, Ambush). Not too mention GA Express and Roswell close by. I would like to know a better breakdown of all clubs and SCCL on the Boys Side as well if someone is as informed as some are on the girl's side. It could very well change my opinion or where my kid will tryout the 1st day versus the rest of the week if there is significant changes. I'm going to be honest I have not bee in the loop really with the new leagues being formed in the last year or so other than MLS-Next. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 3, 2021 16:47:56 GMT -5
Boys SCCL:
AFU from 2nd team to 3rd team (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL)
Ambush 1st team
BUSA is out of SCCL-C except for U12. (ECNL, ECRL)
Concorde from 3rd team to 5th team (ECNL, ECNL, ECRL, ECRL, SCCL)
FC Alliance--out (ECNL, ECRL)
GSA from 2nd team to 3rd team (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL)
NTH from 2nd team to 3rd team (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL)
Roswell from 1st team
Rush Union still 1st team
SSA 3rd team (MLS Next, NPL, SCCL)
UFA from 3rd team to 4th team (ECNL, ECRL, NPL, SCCL)
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Post by realisemykiddoesntpl on May 3, 2021 17:47:31 GMT -5
How is it possible to water down something that is already pure water?
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 3, 2021 18:29:21 GMT -5
Boys SCCL: AFU from 2nd team to 3rd team (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) Ambush 1st team BUSA is out of SCCL-C except for U12. (ECNL, ECRL) Concorde from 3rd team to 5th team (ECNL, ECNL, ECRL, ECRL, SCCL) FC Alliance--out (ECNL, ECRL) GSA from 2nd team to 3rd team (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) NTH from 2nd team to 3rd team (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) Roswell from 1st team Rush Union still 1st team SSA 3rd team (MLS Next, NPL, SCCL) UFA from 3rd team to 4th team (ECNL, ECRL, NPL, SCCL) Read it all quickly with an English accent and you have yourself a Monty Python sketch. |
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Post by footyfan on May 3, 2021 18:31:24 GMT -5
Boys SCCL: AFU from 2nd team to 3rd team (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) Ambush 1st team BUSA is out of SCCL-C except for U12. (ECNL, ECRL) Concorde from 3rd team to 5th team (ECNL, ECNL, ECRL, ECRL, SCCL) FC Alliance--out (ECNL, ECRL) GSA from 2nd team to 3rd team (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) NTH from 2nd team to 3rd team (ECNL, ECRL, SCCL) Roswell from 1st team Rush Union still 1st team SSA 3rd team (MLS Next, NPL, SCCL) UFA from 3rd team to 4th team (ECNL, ECRL, NPL, SCCL) Read it all quickly with an English accent and you have yourself a Monty Python sketch. "Good evening from the news desk at the Ministry of Silly Leagues. In today's sillyness we have..." |
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Post by bogan on May 3, 2021 18:50:15 GMT -5
Read it all quickly with an English accent and you have yourself a Monty Python sketch. "Good evening from the news desk at the Ministry of Silly Leagues. In today's sillyness we have..." For some reason I hear Benny Hill (queue lots of kids running around kicking soccer balls). |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 3, 2021 19:28:34 GMT -5
For Benny Hiil you’d have throw in a few risqué soccer moms and double entendres!
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Post by realisemykiddoesntpl on May 3, 2021 19:32:12 GMT -5
It would be really funny if it didn't cost so much
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 3, 2021 21:23:11 GMT -5
More rumors... hearing DDYSC will have SCCL for the upcoming year. Don't know if it's C or P.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 4, 2021 7:11:22 GMT -5
It would be really funny if it didn't cost so much Ehh SSA really was reasonable this year. Maybe that was because they took all our money last year and then didn't really have a spring season and then gave us a small credit, but they dropped the fees tremendously over years prior. I'm curious to see if they go back up next season or not. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 4, 2021 7:14:10 GMT -5
I think we also have to remember that for a lot of these big mega clubs their 2nd or 3rd or even 4th team(in some ages) given the branches they have absorbed could be as good as most smaller club's 1st or 2nd teams. So yes you can say they are watered down but in reality these mega clubs aren't picking all the players off of these branch teams. They are picking maybe 1-2 elite ones in each branch for their top team and really most others are staying put most likely due to parents being unwilling to drive to the main location for a 2nd or 3rd team there which is why more and more of these branch locations are getting some of the better teams in different age groups now.
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Post by footyfan on May 4, 2021 8:47:37 GMT -5
I think we also have to remember that for a lot of these big mega clubs their 2nd or 3rd or even 4th team(in some ages) given the branches they have absorbed could be as good as most smaller club's 1st or 2nd teams. So yes you can say they are watered down but in reality these mega clubs aren't picking all the players off of these branch teams. They are picking maybe 1-2 elite ones in each branch for their top team and really most others are staying put most likely due to parents being unwilling to drive to the main location for a 2nd or 3rd team there which is why more and more of these branch locations are getting some of the better teams in different age groups now. This is a valid point. E.g. with the pick-up of the Red Stars, CF girls SCCL team may stay the same, the ECRL goes to Columbus, right? |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 4, 2021 9:27:59 GMT -5
I think we also have to remember that for a lot of these big mega clubs their 2nd or 3rd or even 4th team(in some ages) given the branches they have absorbed could be as good as most smaller club's 1st or 2nd teams. So yes you can say they are watered down but in reality these mega clubs aren't picking all the players off of these branch teams. They are picking maybe 1-2 elite ones in each branch for their top team and really most others are staying put most likely due to parents being unwilling to drive to the main location for a 2nd or 3rd team there which is why more and more of these branch locations are getting some of the better teams in different age groups now. This is a valid point. E.g. with the pick-up of the Red Stars, CF girls SCCL team may stay the same, the ECRL goes to Columbus, right? The SCCL P1 teams stay mostly the same maybe. CF has 2 ECNL and 2 ECRL teams. I think that most age groups you'll probably see 5 SSA (ECNL Premier) players move to SSA GA, then the top 5 SCCL Club players moved to the ECNL Premier team (the rest of them going to ECRL Platinum), and the top 5 SCCL-P1 players move to the SCCL Club team, etc. So the SCCL Club teams will likely be the former SCCL-P1 teams weakened by the loss of a few of the best players. |
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