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Post by atlfutboldad on May 21, 2021 13:58:37 GMT -5
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPJPWstBE9b AFC, AFU, Concorde, GSA, Inter Atlanta, NTH, Roswell, SSA, UFA...stick a fork in Georgia Soccer, the biggest 9 clubs are out. 10 if you include Columbus (now Concorde South). |
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Post by 04gparent on May 21, 2021 14:02:56 GMT -5
I thought SCCL was not on strong footing. This is a very interesting development...
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 21, 2021 14:08:09 GMT -5
Apparently its about the only game in town now. Georgia Soccer will oversee rec and what's left of ODP after this year. The girls side is basically kaput, with 1-2 brackets per age group. The boys will keep it alive for a bit longer.
Will see how things go, but SCCL club will not be as strong. Tophat should have a good chance to sweep the girls side again. If Norcross can retain players, they're a good candidate also. That Nashville trip tho...
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Post by NotherSoccerParent on May 21, 2021 14:53:21 GMT -5
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPJPWstBE9b AFC, AFU, Concorde, GSA, Inter Atlanta, NTH, Roswell, SSA, UFA...stick a fork in Georgia Soccer, the biggest 9 clubs are out. 10 if you include Columbus (now Concorde South). I did not interpret the announcement as the major clubs are out, just that there 5 more clubs joining. NASA for example already has coaches for SCCL next year as well as tryouts for SCCL. |
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Post by Goalkeeper Dad on May 21, 2021 15:29:43 GMT -5
Apparently its about the only game in town now. Georgia Soccer will oversee rec and what's left of ODP after this year. The girls side is basically kaput, with 1-2 brackets per age group. The boys will keep it alive for a bit longer.
Will see how things go, but SCCL club will not be as strong. Tophat should have a good chance to sweep the girls side again. If Norcross can retain players, they're a good candidate also. That Nashville trip tho...
Tophat/Concorde will have their 4th teams and UFA will have their 3rds. I think it will be competitive but let's not give the Title to Tophat. Their will be some string team in here that will surprise some people |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 21, 2021 15:29:46 GMT -5
I meant out of Georgia Soccer (put fork in her, she's done). AFC and Inter are basically the final nails.
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Post by ball2futbol on May 21, 2021 15:42:20 GMT -5
Apparently its about the only game in town now. Georgia Soccer will oversee rec and what's left of ODP after this year. The girls side is basically kaput, with 1-2 brackets per age group. The boys will keep it alive for a bit longer.
Will see how things go, but SCCL club will not be as strong. Tophat should have a good chance to sweep the girls side again. If Norcross can retain players, they're a good candidate also. That Nashville trip tho...
Tough for them but I’ll take a wknd in Nashville over heading to Bama, including the extra 1 1/2 drive anytime! |
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Post by mightydawg on May 21, 2021 15:57:38 GMT -5
A weekend in Nashville sounds great. I would be willing to play the home and away match in Nashville on the same weekend. I surprised that SCCL hasn't learned that the burden on the Tennessee team is going to be brutal especially if they are not competitive. Driving to Atlanta 3 or 4 weekends per season will get old for them just like it did for FC Alliance
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 21, 2021 16:43:39 GMT -5
A weekend in Nashville sounds great. I would be willing to play the home and away match in Nashville on the same weekend. I surprised that SCCL hasn't learned that the burden on the Tennessee team is going to be brutal especially if they are not competitive. Driving to Atlanta 3 or 4 weekends per season will get old for them just like it did for FC Alliance Agreed. Knoxville didn't work out, so hey let's add Nashville. |
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Post by Brinker on May 21, 2021 16:46:03 GMT -5
Is this because top programs have new access to the ECRL for their second teams. ECNL first team and then ECRL second team so the need for SCCL is lessened? Trying to understand the implications.
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 21, 2021 18:54:26 GMT -5
Is this because top programs have new access to the ECRL for their second teams. ECNL first team and then ECRL second team so the need for SCCL is lessened? Trying to understand the implications. For ECNL teams only - their 2nd teams would be ECRL. However, considering all the other alphabet leagues and clubs having different locations, the implications would depend on the club. Some may say ECRL is the 2nd, some NPL 2nd, some SCCL 2nd... and so on. |
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Post by bogan on May 21, 2021 19:26:19 GMT -5
…wreaths placed at midfield…attention please: we will now observe a moment of silence for Georgia Soccer…
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 21, 2021 19:37:22 GMT -5
Wow!
Dishes are done!
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Post by putmeincoach on May 21, 2021 20:03:49 GMT -5
Announced right before tryouts too.. who is left in GA Soccer? Impact, Savannah, Athens, Macon, Storm? It's officially over for GA Soccer, time to turn off the lights.
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Post by liverpoolfc on May 21, 2021 20:37:25 GMT -5
hmmm big play for sccl teams
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Post by atlutd17 on May 21, 2021 22:38:16 GMT -5
I don't get why Ga Soccer is still mentioned. That chapter closed many years ago as far as Atlanta goes. Yet here we are ...
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Post by ga3v3 on May 22, 2021 5:55:49 GMT -5
... so much worse.
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Post by soulsurvivin on May 22, 2021 9:32:52 GMT -5
It seems that Georgia soccer still plays a role and is relevant considering they feed the leagues that start around u12. That being said many organizations are still affiliated with Ga soccer for earlier ages. Am I correct?
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Post by Keeper on May 22, 2021 9:57:15 GMT -5
It seems that Georgia soccer still plays a role and is relevant considering they feed the leagues that start around u12. That being said many organizations are still affiliated with Ga soccer for earlier ages. Am I correct? USClub has Academy and most SCCL clubs made that jump though the player screening is much more thorough then GaSoccer (birth certificates have to be approved before being rostered unlike GaSoccer) GaSoccer will continue to be the Rec go to though. |
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Post by honeybadger2021 on May 22, 2021 16:13:49 GMT -5
Been a while since I posted because of a job change, sick relatives, and one of my daughters with a torn ACL.
Once you get outside the small pond of Georgia, USYSA is still very strong. I noticed that the "big clubs" in Ga like AFU (I will use AFU as my example since one of my girls played there a few years ago.) are now calling their second team ECNL-R. '
That's a marketing ploy with hopes of keeping parents forking over money. It's still their second team. We play out of All-in who now has Sergio Magana building up the girls' side. His U18 National Team won state cup last year, won NL Piedmont and I watched them first hand beat AFU ECNL and Concorde ECNL in the same tournament.
His U16 team finished runner up in state cup and despite having 5 major injuries finished middle of the crowd in NL. We also have 4 very very good players committed to us for this fall who are ECNL level players. Ae beat a Florida "CNL-R" team 6-0 last year.
We beat Tophat SCCL top level 3-2 today and a team from Florida named Bay FC I believe 4-1. We play UFA Premier tomorrow which will be a good measuring stick.
If AFU promises any player they will get to "swing up to ECNL", get it in writing. Seen it promised many times to no avail. They will just go out and take Concorde or Tophat players who get cut or want more playing time. If you live in the Buford area drive a much shorter distance to All-In (with the new field additions, just look at the All-In facility then drive down to Duluth and look at the AFU facility----not even close).
Bigger named coaches are being added to All-In and if kids in Buford chose to play together on an All-In age group vs driving down to Duluth to play for a second team with the promise of playing some ECNL--90% chance you are being pulled along, you will end up on a better team at All-In.
I think it would be interesting to see what would happen if All-In U16 NL played AFU 05 ECNL, AFU ECNL-R, AFU SCCL.
Several of us left because we were told by the "main man" that we were leaving NL but if we stayed we'd be SCCL top level the FIRST season. Most of the team bought it, 5-6 of us didn't so chose UFA Norcross SCCL top team and had a winning record while the AFU SCCL group who stayed behind played in the SCCL 2nd tier. They moved up to top SCCL the following year and had a losing record.
This is no knock on AFU--they have several great teams and several coaches I really like.
But pay close attention when promised something by the "main man".
We play in front of as many college scouts as AFU ECNL teams play in front of at All-In National League and we pay a fraction of the cost AFU charges for ECNL. Ask last years AFU U18/U19 ECNL team how they felt losing to All-In NL 3-1.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 22, 2021 18:01:20 GMT -5
Not sure how AFU got dragged into this. The hate is strong. No offense, but NL Piedmont is an increasingly irrelevant sinking ship.
And grouping the 05's with the superior 03 team, apples and oranges.
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Post by Keeper on May 22, 2021 19:58:56 GMT -5
Not sure how AFU got dragged into this. The hate is strong. No offense, but NL Piedmont is an increasingly irrelevant sinking ship. And grouping the 05's with the superior 03 team, apples and oranges. Exactly! Plus sounds like someone has drank some serious Kool Aid Because outside of Sergio All In is not popcorn. Still has the same old former AFU leadership and stuck in Athena/Classic play. (State Cup trophies haven’t been relevant for like 4 years😂) |
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Post by Shesakeeper on May 22, 2021 20:28:58 GMT -5
Not sure I'd say the AFU 05 SCCL-C girls had a losing record, they finished middle of the pack as well, with 1 game against FC unplayed, which would probably have been win, ending them at 4-4-2. We had several starters out at the beginning of the season when we faced some of the top teams in the bracket. Had we played those teams toward the end, we may have picked up another win or two. We played GSA toward the end, who were tied for 1st in the bracket and only lost 1-0. I'm glad you're happy where you settled but don't see the point in knocking AFU. Been a while since I posted because of a job change, sick relatives, and one of my daughters with a torn ACL. Once you get outside the small pond of Georgia, USYSA is still very strong. I noticed that the "big clubs" in Ga like AFU (I will use AFU as my example since one of my girls played there a few years ago.) are now calling their second team ECNL-R. ' That's a marketing ploy with hopes of keeping parents forking over money. It's still their second team. We play out of All-in who now has Sergio Magana building up the girls' side. His U18 National Team won state cup last year, won NL Piedmont and I watched them first hand beat AFU ECNL and Concorde ECNL in the same tournament. His U16 team finished runner up in state cup and despite having 5 major injuries finished middle of the crowd in NL. We also have 4 very very good players committed to us for this fall who are ECNL level players. Ae beat a Florida "CNL-R" team 6-0 last year. We beat Tophat SCCL top level 3-2 today and a team from Florida named Bay FC I believe 4-1. We play UFA Premier tomorrow which will be a good measuring stick. If AFU promises any player they will get to "swing up to ECNL", get it in writing. Seen it promised many times to no avail. They will just go out and take Concorde or Tophat players who get cut or want more playing time. If you live in the Buford area drive a much shorter distance to All-In (with the new field additions, just look at the All-In facility then drive down to Duluth and look at the AFU facility----not even close). Bigger named coaches are being added to All-In and if kids in Buford chose to play together on an All-In age group vs driving down to Duluth to play for a second team with the promise of playing some ECNL--90% chance you are being pulled along, you will end up on a better team at All-In. I think it would be interesting to see what would happen if All-In U16 NL played AFU 05 ECNL, AFU ECNL-R, AFU SCCL. Several of us left because we were told by the "main man" that we were leaving NL but if we stayed we'd be SCCL top level the FIRST season. Most of the team bought it, 5-6 of us didn't so chose UFA Norcross SCCL top team and had a winning record while the AFU SCCL group who stayed behind played in the SCCL 2nd tier. They moved up to top SCCL the following year and had a losing record. This is no knock on AFU--they have several great teams and several coaches I really like. But pay close attention when promised something by the "main man". We play in front of as many college scouts as AFU ECNL teams play in front of at All-In National League and we pay a fraction of the cost AFU charges for ECNL. Ask last years AFU U18/U19 ECNL team how they felt losing to All-In NL 3-1. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 22, 2021 20:35:19 GMT -5
Injuries are never an "excuse" though. Every team goes through it in different years. We caught the injury bug in the winter.
I can appreciate the enthusiasm for his kid's team and club though.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 22, 2021 20:45:52 GMT -5
All in is not really being built up on the girls side when they still can't field a team in all age groups. I have a lot of respect for Sergio's coaching, but they will need to have more competitive teams to be considered a club on the rise. LSA had competitive teams at 03 and 05 (funny but a few of those LSA girls are on that 03 team now and likely contribute quite a lot to the success of that team) but still went down the tubes numbers-wise.
Sergio is better positioned in Buford than LSA is but he needs to get some more kids there before his 03 team all graduates because then he won't have much to point to. One good team (05 team is decent but beating Tophat's 4th team is nothing to brag about) is not going to help him sell that club to new players.
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Post by kidsocceruber on May 22, 2021 20:58:54 GMT -5
Been a while since I posted because of a job change, sick relatives, and one of my daughters with a torn ACL. Once you get outside the small pond of Georgia, USYSA is still very strong. I noticed that the "big clubs" in Ga like AFU (I will use AFU as my example since one of my girls played there a few years ago.) are now calling their second team ECNL-R. ' That's a marketing ploy with hopes of keeping parents forking over money. It's still their second team. We play out of All-in who now has Sergio Magana building up the girls' side. His U18 National Team won state cup last year, won NL Piedmont and I watched them first hand beat AFU ECNL and Concorde ECNL in the same tournament. His U16 team finished runner up in state cup and despite having 5 major injuries finished middle of the crowd in NL. We also have 4 very very good players committed to us for this fall who are ECNL level players. Ae beat a Florida "CNL-R" team 6-0 last year. We beat Tophat SCCL top level 3-2 today and a team from Florida named Bay FC I believe 4-1. We play UFA Premier tomorrow which will be a good measuring stick. If AFU promises any player they will get to "swing up to ECNL", get it in writing. Seen it promised many times to no avail. They will just go out and take Concorde or Tophat players who get cut or want more playing time. If you live in the Buford area drive a much shorter distance to All-In (with the new field additions, just look at the All-In facility then drive down to Duluth and look at the AFU facility----not even close). Bigger named coaches are being added to All-In and if kids in Buford chose to play together on an All-In age group vs driving down to Duluth to play for a second team with the promise of playing some ECNL--90% chance you are being pulled along, you will end up on a better team at All-In. I think it would be interesting to see what would happen if All-In U16 NL played AFU 05 ECNL, AFU ECNL-R, AFU SCCL. Several of us left because we were told by the "main man" that we were leaving NL but if we stayed we'd be SCCL top level the FIRST season. Most of the team bought it, 5-6 of us didn't so chose UFA Norcross SCCL top team and had a winning record while the AFU SCCL group who stayed behind played in the SCCL 2nd tier. They moved up to top SCCL the following year and had a losing record. This is no knock on AFU--they have several great teams and several coaches I really like. But pay close attention when promised something by the "main man". We play in front of as many college scouts as AFU ECNL teams play in front of at All-In National League and we pay a fraction of the cost AFU charges for ECNL. Ask last years AFU U18/U19 ECNL team how they felt losing to All-In NL 3-1. Ahhh, the shizat stirrer is back! This is what my life was missing  (Parent of) The All-In U16 NL team that went 3-4-2 and lost to all 4 teams above them in season talking shizat about the AFU SCCL U16s that had the same "Losing record" (Which would have been 4-4-2 had FC Alliance not flaked out) and rehashing 2 year old news to try and pump up a mediocre club. All-in FC Sugar Hill 02 Gold - Gpl in the AFU tournament a couple of weeks ago had to bring in girls not on their team to help beat the AFU U16 SCCL girls because they didn't want to be embarrassed losing to girls 3 years younger in the final. Part of me missed these posts, I mean who doesn't love a good grudge that can't be let go, but isn't it time to move on from all that? If you want to trash AFU at least keep it relevant. Just about all of the big clubs are moving their 2nd team (SCCL, SAPL where applicable) to ECRL, it's not like anyone is forming a brand new team from a pool of players that didn't exist to create something new. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 22, 2021 22:29:45 GMT -5
Everyone knows ECRL are 2nd teams. It's SCCL with better branding. It's got a short leg up on DPL at the moment. Will have to see how things go in the next year or two.
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Post by honeybadger2021 on May 23, 2021 6:14:07 GMT -5
That was my point. Just more alphabet soup letters to confuse parents . Not sure what he /she meant by 02’s bringing in players . The 03 All-In team Thats #1 in Ga did graduate 7 players I believe so if he’s referring to them well of course they would borrow players in the spring friendliest . Due to injuries our U16 NL team has 12 players at the moment so we grab a players for some practices though we are going with our 12 in the showcase this weekend. So would anyone team in that situation .
And the first sentence explains why I’ve been away, sorry you have so much hate built up.
I actually said there are many coaches at AFU I like and are great coaches. All I’m stating is fact . They won’t pull kids UP to ECNL- AFU will actually pull ecnl kids DOWN to if the game is important. I know as I was there .
And for the record I reached out to two coaches at AFU for friendlies. Got a “No” from one of them and never heard back from the other.
I’ve always been consistent on my record: I’d like one organization running things and it just goes back to a very simple way to tell where your team stands . A is your 1, B is your 2, etc. There are too many letters designating these teams the average patents is confused.
Now. If my opinion is causing you that much grief you need to take a deep breath.
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Post by honeybadger2021 on May 23, 2021 6:16:49 GMT -5
All in is not really being built up on the girls side when they still can't field a team in all age groups. I have a lot of respect for Sergio's coaching, but they will need to have more competitive teams to be considered a club on the rise. LSA had competitive teams at 03 and 05 (funny but a few of those LSA girls are on that 03 team now and likely contribute quite a lot to the success of that team) but still went down the tubes numbers-wise. Sergio is better positioned in Buford than LSA is but he needs to get some more kids there before his 03 team all graduates because then he won't have much to point to. One good team (05 team is decent but beating Tophat's 4th team is nothing to brag about) is not going to help him sell that club to new players. Agree . It’s going to be a process that will take time . |
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Post by honeybadger2021 on May 23, 2021 6:28:06 GMT -5
All in is not really being built up on the girls side when they still can't field a team in all age groups. I have a lot of respect for Sergio's coaching, but they will need to have more competitive teams to be considered a club on the rise. LSA had competitive teams at 03 and 05 (funny but a few of those LSA girls are on that 03 team now and likely contribute quite a lot to the success of that team) but still went down the tubes numbers-wise. Sergio is better positioned in Buford than LSA is but he needs to get some more kids there before his 03 team all graduates because then he won't have much to point to. One good team (05 team is decent but beating Tophat's 4th team is nothing to brag about) is not going to help him sell that club to new players. Agree . It’s going to be a process that will take time . Are you saying lsa has 03 girls playing NOW on the All-In 03 NL team? Not true. |
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(Parent of) The All-In U16 NL team that went 3-4-2 and lost to all 4 teams above them in season talking shizat about the AFU SCCL U16s that had the same "Losing record" (Which would have been 4-4-2 had FC Alliance not flaked out) and rehashing 2 year old news to try and pump up a mediocre club. All-in FC Sugar Hill 02 Gold - Gpl in the AFU tournament a couple of weeks ago had to bring in girls not on their team to help beat the AFU U16 SCCL girls because they didn't want to be embarrassed losing to girls 3 years younger in the final. Part of me missed these posts, I mean who doesn't love a good grudge that can't be let go, but isn't it time to move on from all that? If you want to trash AFU at least keep it relevant. Just about all of the big clubs are moving their 2nd team (SCCL, SAPL where applicable) to ECRL, it's not like anyone is forming a brand new team from a pool of players that didn't exist to create something new. 