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Post by thisonedude on Jul 6, 2021 8:13:06 GMT -5
Boys U17: UFA (0-2) - allowed 6G to 2G scored Concorde Fire Platinum (1-1) GSA ECNL (1-1) - allowed 8 goals NTH-NASA (2-0) - goals against 2 w/ 5 goals scored Atlanta Fire United (0-2) - allowed 8G Not that it matters all that much, but GSA's 04s are 0-1-1. Their tie probably feels like a win because they came back from down 1-4 in the last 15 minutes to tie 4-4.
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Post by soccerallthetime on Jul 6, 2021 13:04:00 GMT -5
NASA 04 boys tied today 1-1, and are moving on to the quarterfinals on Thursday.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 6, 2021 14:15:29 GMT -5
I know it's an extra day, but big picture its not that much, would like to see 2 teams advance from group play with an additional single elimination round added. Or maybe remove the rest day from group play and add it for the single elimination round.
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Post by thisonedude on Jul 6, 2021 18:31:04 GMT -5
I know it's an extra day, but big picture its not that much, would like to see 2 teams advance from group play with an additional single elimination round added. Or maybe remove the rest day from group play and add it for the single elimination round. Agreed
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Post by Brinker on Jul 7, 2021 16:11:15 GMT -5
NASA 07s advanced to the quarterfinals of the U14 ECNL playoffs with 3 wins and 3 clean sheets. Unfortunately the other Southeast teams, UFA, GSA, and Tennessee were not able to advance.
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Post by soccerfam404 on Jul 7, 2021 16:45:25 GMT -5
East coast/SE did well in '07 class- NCFC, Florida Premier, Arlington Soccer, and NTH NASA all made it. Dallas Texans Academy, La Roco (out of Utah), San Diego SC and Cross Fire Premier (Seattle) were the others. Any other Atlanta or SE teams in the other age groups?
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Post by Brinker on Jul 7, 2021 18:01:33 GMT -5
East coast/SE did well in '07 class- NCFC, Florida Premier, Arlington Soccer, and NTH NASA all made it. Dallas Texans Academy, La Roco (out of Utah), San Diego SC and Cross Fire Premier (Seattle) were the others. Any other Atlanta or SE teams in the other age groups? At U14, San Diego, Arlington and NASA have not conceded a goal in 3 games.
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 8, 2021 8:56:25 GMT -5
According to the ECNL website, the following teams are still alive:
U13--None U14--NASA U15--Concorde Premier U16--None U17--None U18/19--None
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Post by soccerallthetime on Jul 8, 2021 10:27:48 GMT -5
According to the ECNL website, the following teams are still alive: U13--None U14--NASA U15--Concorde Premier U16--None U17--None U18/19--None NASA U17 boys are definitely still in it. They play today in the quarterfinals.
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 8, 2021 10:43:14 GMT -5
According to the ECNL website, the following teams are still alive: U13--None U14--NASA U15--Concorde Premier U16--None U17--None U18/19--None NASA U17 boys are definitely still in it. They play today in the quarterfinals. My apologies. The ECNL website had NASA playing CESA in the round of 16 and losing 3-2 so I thought they had been eliminated. Here is the link: tgs.totalglobalsports.com/public/schedules.aspx?tid=11922&eid=2261
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Post by soccerallthetime on Jul 8, 2021 11:28:27 GMT -5
Did they change the game time, I wonder? They weren’t scheduled to play until 12:45. I am seeing the same thing you are.
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Post by Brinker on Jul 8, 2021 11:39:36 GMT -5
Did they change the game time, I wonder? They weren’t scheduled to play until 12:45. I am seeing the same thing you are. Due to weather, the game date was changed, and NASA U17s lost and were eliminated last night 3-2.
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Post by soccerallthetime on Jul 8, 2021 11:55:39 GMT -5
Did they change the game time, I wonder? They weren’t scheduled to play until 12:45. I am seeing the same thing you are. Due to weather, the game date was changed, and NASA U17s lost and were eliminated last night 3-2. Thanks for the update, I didn’t realize.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 8, 2021 15:38:07 GMT -5
Overall. Good week.
Felt like just any other event though, the roar after goals was there and the competition on the pitch for sure - but the event was lacking. Just didn’t feal special. Maybe it was just me.
The venue is ok. Only concessions is at the center of the park, they should have venders set up throughout or golf carts selling water.
Fields are hit or miss. 3 games on 3 completely different pitches. I’d expect consistentcy on the field sizes.
Hopefully they put on a better show for the finals . Always a pet peeve of mine - every kid at a minimum should be given a cheap ecnl t shirt. What’s the cost? 5 bucks a shirt?
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Post by onekickpop on Jul 8, 2021 16:53:07 GMT -5
Agree with your comment regarding location. Comparing this to DA events it’s evident that many strategies focused on long balls over the top to fast forwards. Strategy to win games/tournaments. Fun to watch, fast paced, but likely only suitable mostly for MLS. This was not in all cases. Nevertheless, a lot of really competitive games to watch all week long with coaches and scouts everywhere. Fun times! Overall. Good week. Felt like just any other event though, the roar after goals was there and the competition on the pitch for sure - but the event was lacking. Just didn’t feal special. Maybe it was just me. The venue is ok. Only concessions is at the center of the park, they should have venders set up throughout or golf carts selling water. Fields are hit or miss. 3 games on 3 completely different pitches. I’d expect consistentcy on the field sizes. Hopefully they put on a better show for the finals . Always a pet peeve of mine - every kid at a minimum should be given a cheap ecnl t shirt. What’s the cost? 5 bucks a shirt?
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 9, 2021 15:20:18 GMT -5
Looks like both Concorde (06) and Nasa (07) lost today.
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Post by Brinker on Jul 9, 2021 16:22:48 GMT -5
NASA 07s lost a tough one 2-1 against San Diego SC. SD had not let in a goal all week until the NASA game. Concorde also lost.
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Post by soccernotfootball on Jul 9, 2021 17:37:01 GMT -5
Considering what has been said about NASA 07s (w/ the AU games counting/not counting BS), as well as CF not deserving 2 teams/Premier bad at all ages...
It pleases me to no end that both NASA 07s and CF Premier 06s were one win away from National Finals tourney. Great run by both... shut down the naysayers!
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Post by flix on Jul 10, 2021 9:29:04 GMT -5
Considering what has been said about NASA 07s (w/ the AU games counting/not counting BS), as well as CF not deserving 2 teams/Premier bad at all ages... It pleases me to no end that both NASA 07s and CF Premier 06s were one win away from National Finals tourney. Great run by both... shut down the naysayers! Seems to me that ECNL playoff system make need some tweaks. We all know that in every tournament one group is always weaker than the rest but I thought this was the playoffs so why does only one team per group advance? GSA, Tennessee and UFA appeared to have drawn a tougher group since all three teams were in a group that had a team advance to the final four. Maybe if one of those teams and NASA’s groups were switched then they would have been one win away from the national finals. That’s not NASA’s fault but nevertheless it appears to be a fact. It is interesting that NASA scored 6 goals in four matches while two other teams in their group scored 6 and 7 in only 3 matches. Tennessee seemed to have gotten the shaft in scoring 12 goals only to lose out on goal differential because a team won 8-0 in their final group stage match. I’m just happy for them that they got to go and maybe this whole AU doing them wrong banter will go away now that the season is over.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Jul 10, 2021 10:07:22 GMT -5
Considering what has been said about NASA 07s (w/ the AU games counting/not counting BS), as well as CF not deserving 2 teams/Premier bad at all ages... It pleases me to no end that both NASA 07s and CF Premier 06s were one win away from National Finals tourney. Great run by both... shut down the naysayers! Seems to me that ECNL playoff system make need some tweaks. We all know that in every tournament one group is always weaker than the rest but I thought this was the playoffs so why does only one team per group advance? GSA, Tennessee and UFA appeared to have drawn a tougher group since all three teams were in a group that had a team advance to the final four. Maybe if one of those teams and NASA’s groups were switched then they would have been one win away from the national finals. That’s not NASA’s fault but nevertheless it appears to be a fact. It is interesting that NASA scored 6 goals in four matches while two other teams in their group scored 6 and 7 in only 3 matches. Tennessee seemed to have gotten the shaft in scoring 12 goals only to lose out on goal differential because a team won 8-0 in their final group stage match. I’m just happy for them that they got to go and maybe this whole AU doing them wrong banter will go away now that the season is over. Thats soccer. It is what it is. I guess the whole AU thing won't go away if people keep mentioning it.
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Post by onekickpop on Jul 10, 2021 10:09:18 GMT -5
Looking at the details, 3 out of 4 teams NASA 07s played were in 1st place in their conference. I would not consider those to be weaker teams but I agree that it would be interesting to learn how these teams were grouped. In any case, really good to see GA represented by NASA ‘07s and Concorde ‘06s. I still don’t think that Georgia soccer is regarded as a powerhouse by any means compared to Texas/California and the NE. NASA did not allow a goal until the final where they lost 2-1. We have a lot of good players here in our state and I expect we will see more Georgia boys represented at playoffs in ‘22 and beyond. Considering what has been said about NASA 07s (w/ the AU games counting/not counting BS), as well as CF not deserving 2 teams/Premier bad at all ages... It pleases me to no end that both NASA 07s and CF Premier 06s were one win away from National Finals tourney. Great run by both... shut down the naysayers! Seems to me that ECNL playoff system make need some tweaks. We all know that in every tournament one group is always weaker than the rest but I thought this was the playoffs so why does only one team per group advance? GSA, Tennessee and UFA appeared to have drawn a tougher group since all three teams were in a group that had a team advance to the final four. Maybe if one of those teams and NASA’s groups were switched then they would have been one win away from the national finals. That’s not NASA’s fault but nevertheless it appears to be a fact. It is interesting that NASA scored 6 goals in four matches while two other teams in their group scored 6 and 7 in only 3 matches. Tennessee seemed to have gotten the shaft in scoring 12 goals only to lose out on goal differential because a team won 8-0 in their final group stage match. I’m just happy for them that they got to go and maybe this whole AU doing them wrong banter will go away now that the season is over.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 10, 2021 10:48:08 GMT -5
Considering what has been said about NASA 07s (w/ the AU games counting/not counting BS), as well as CF not deserving 2 teams/Premier bad at all ages... It pleases me to no end that both NASA 07s and CF Premier 06s were one win away from National Finals tourney. Great run by both... shut down the naysayers! Seems to me that ECNL playoff system make need some tweaks. We all know that in every tournament one group is always weaker than the rest but I thought this was the playoffs so why does only one team per group advance? GSA, Tennessee and UFA appeared to have drawn a tougher group since all three teams were in a group that had a team advance to the final four. Maybe if one of those teams and NASA’s groups were switched then they would have been one win away from the national finals. That’s not NASA’s fault but nevertheless it appears to be a fact. It is interesting that NASA scored 6 goals in four matches while two other teams in their group scored 6 and 7 in only 3 matches. Tennessee seemed to have gotten the shaft in scoring 12 goals only to lose out on goal differential because a team won 8-0 in their final group stage match. I’m just happy for them that they got to go and maybe this whole AU doing them wrong banter will go away now that the season is over. I can't really recall what the DA did but I thought it was the same. Win your group and move on to knockout rounds. The GA did the same. If you are going to have 32 teams go to the playoffs I don't think you have much choice. The only other option would be to do regionals then nationals but I think that is not a good plan. These kids need some of the summer to rest and also do ID camps and regular college visits. There is only so much time to get these games in especially given our country does not have a standard school calendar. By the time the schools are out in the north there is a 6 week time period before we start here. Something has to give. I do think the pairings ought to be based on overall seeding which is NOT how the ECNL does it from what I hear. Number 1 vs Numbers 32 and Number 16 and 17 and so on in one group. Make their regular season count.
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Post by Brinker on Jul 10, 2021 11:48:08 GMT -5
NASA 07s won 3 games in the playoffs without allowing a goal, defeated the first place teams in Northern California and Texas, and then lost 2-1 to a team that has not lost all year and has only allowed 4 goals the entire season. Top 8 in the Nation at ECNL U14. Add that to the Unite Cup finals and it seems like a strong season to me. They will need to prove it again at U15 as I expect they will again face tough competition in the Southeast Division of ECNL.
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Post by soccernotfootball on Jul 10, 2021 13:14:28 GMT -5
Seems to me that ECNL playoff system make need some tweaks. We all know that in every tournament one group is always weaker than the rest but I thought this was the playoffs so why does only one team per group advance? GSA, Tennessee and UFA appeared to have drawn a tougher group since all three teams were in a group that had a team advance to the final four. Maybe if one of those teams and NASA’s groups were switched then they would have been one win away from the national finals. That’s not NASA’s fault but nevertheless it appears to be a fact. It is interesting that NASA scored 6 goals in four matches while two other teams in their group scored 6 and 7 in only 3 matches. Tennessee seemed to have gotten the shaft in scoring 12 goals only to lose out on goal differential because a team won 8-0 in their final group stage match. I’m just happy for them that they got to go and maybe this whole AU doing them wrong banter will go away now that the season is over. Thats soccer. It is what it is. I guess the whole AU thing won't go away if people keep mentioning it. For what it's worth, I have no problems with AU. But clearly there was no clear communication with them and the league.
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