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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 15, 2014 9:55:09 GMT -5
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Post by rodak on Sept 15, 2014 9:58:47 GMT -5
Girls results are posted by # on ODP site, boys are by name and #. Good luck; the 00 girls picked their own groups for the small sided teams, so lots of club teammates were together.
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Post by sidelinemama on Sept 15, 2014 10:23:27 GMT -5
My daughter went for the first time yesterday. She was in a small sided group with a lot of girls from the same club and didn't get much action. She was then put on a field of 11v11, and at the end they told everyone on that field that no one made it. They said they were still considering some people on the other field. I wasn't there, but that's how she and her Dad explained it. He said she was solid when she had the ball, but just didn't stand out because she wasn't getting much action. I realize she has to go and make that happen if it's not.
I think it really is a crapshoot with that many girls there. If something doesn't make you stand out early, you are pushed aside and they'll never see you. Plus, I'm sure they are aware of some girls so they are paying attention to them. She said it was a good experience. I think she saw that she was as good as they were, and that she could play with them, so she really wasn't bothered. I think she expected everyone to be soooo much better than she was. Congrats to those who made it through. Good luck on Wednesday.
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Post by nishnolz93 on Sept 15, 2014 10:41:12 GMT -5
Anyone know if the girls were separated into groups on each field for any particular reason or was it completely random? Seems like the smaller group on the far field had players had a little higher skill level so maybe they were being looked at more closely. Yeah, my daughter was on that far field, but she missed the cut! I thought she had a decent chance of making it through prelims. Back to the drawing board--she'll work harder for next year! I had a feeling she may have been on the bubble because she played a good while up top in 11v11 (or was it 8v8? Can't remember!). |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 15, 2014 13:20:47 GMT -5
Girls results are posted by # on ODP site, boys are by name and #. Good luck; the 00 girls picked their own groups for the small sided teams, so lots of club teammates were together. its only the prelims so only #'s listed, once state tryouts are done, you will see names on there |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 15, 2014 13:24:33 GMT -5
I think she expected everyone to be soooo much better than she was. Congrats to those who made it through. Good luck on Wednesday. [/span] [/quote] That was only the preliminary tryouts, the competition on Wednesday will be a lot tougher. Im sorry you daughter didn't make it, I do hope that she tries out again next year. There's different coaches and each one looks for something different. Congrats to all that made it and good luck on Wednesday!!! |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 15, 2014 13:28:32 GMT -5
Anyone know if the girls were separated into groups on each field for any particular reason or was it completely random? Seems like the smaller group on the far field had players had a little higher skill level so maybe they were being looked at more closely. Yeah, my daughter was on that far field, but she missed the cut! I thought she had a decent chance of making it through prelims. Back to the drawing board--she'll work harder for next year! I had a feeling she may have been on the bubble because she played a good while up top in 11v11 (or was it 8v8? Can't remember!). Im sorry your daughter didn't make it either, I'm glad to hear she will try out again. Its not an easy process for any of the girls! I know my daughter is a nervous wreck before any tryout but looking forward to Wednesday :-) |
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Post by sidelinemama on Sept 15, 2014 15:43:59 GMT -5
I think she expected everyone to be soooo much better than she was. Congrats to those who made it through. Good luck on Wednesday. [/span] [/quote] That was only the preliminary tryouts, the competition on Wednesday will be a lot tougher. Im sorry you daughter didn't make it, I do hope that she tries out again next year. There's different coaches and each one looks for something different. Congrats to all that made it and good luck on Wednesday!!![/quote] Yeah, we realized that. Even she said,"The real players will be there on Wednesday."
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Post by soccergator on Sept 16, 2014 13:18:11 GMT -5
our current u11s showed well.
we have 7 2003's on the u11 roster (10 total rostered).
6 of the 7 made ODP. very impressive.
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Post by parentsoccerfan on Sept 16, 2014 14:39:08 GMT -5
our current u11s showed well. we have 7 2003's on the u11 roster (10 total rostered). 6 of the 7 made ODP. very impressive. Wow, those are some impressive numbers! u11 Boys or girls? |
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Post by soccergator on Sept 16, 2014 14:41:02 GMT -5
our current u11s showed well. we have 7 2003's on the u11 roster (10 total rostered). 6 of the 7 made ODP. very impressive. Wow, those are some impressive numbers! u11 Boys or girls? u11 boys. quality group of kids. extremely well coached! |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 17, 2014 7:53:28 GMT -5
Wow, those are some impressive numbers! u11 Boys or girls? u11 boys. quality group of kids. extremely well coached! That's awesome!! Congrats to them!! |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Sept 17, 2014 11:31:30 GMT -5
good luck tonight ladies.
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Post by soccergator on Sept 17, 2014 11:34:22 GMT -5
u11 boys. quality group of kids. extremely well coached! That's awesome!! Congrats to them!! its really a testament to the quality of coaching they have received since they were 9s. its a committed group of boys that want to be pushed and have been. So in sense, they want to be coached. But our parents are not crazy, we are a tight group that all get a long. last night is the perfect example, practice starts at 5. all 10 were there at 4:50 ready already on the field juggling and having fun. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 17, 2014 14:05:13 GMT -5
good luck tonight ladies. Thanks!! |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 17, 2014 14:10:53 GMT -5
That's awesome!! Congrats to them!! its really a testament to the quality of coaching they have received since they were 9s. its a committed group of boys that want to be pushed and have been. So in sense, they want to be coached. But our parents are not crazy, we are a tight group that all get a long. last night is the perfect example, practice starts at 5. all 10 were there at 4:50 ready already on the field juggling and having fun. That is great! We have a very committed team as well!! The team has changed over the years a little bit but about 1/2 the team is still the same from the beginning (5 years) ...but the new parents and kids have incorporated great into our whole dynamic! and we probably are a little crazy at times hahaha but we mean well ;-) |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 18, 2014 6:31:51 GMT -5
That's awesome!! Congrats to them!! its really a testament to the quality of coaching they have received since they were 9s. its a committed group of boys that want to be pushed and have been. So in sense, they want to be coached. But our parents are not crazy, we are a tight group that all get a long. last night is the perfect example, practice starts at 5. all 10 were there at 4:50 ready already on the field juggling and having fun. Practice starts at 5:00pm?!?! How in the world did the club and/or coach pull that off? We have parents whinnying about getting kids their at 6:00pm. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 18, 2014 6:42:37 GMT -5
its really a testament to the quality of coaching they have received since they were 9s. its a committed group of boys that want to be pushed and have been. So in sense, they want to be coached. But our parents are not crazy, we are a tight group that all get a long. last night is the perfect example, practice starts at 5. all 10 were there at 4:50 ready already on the field juggling and having fun. Practice starts at 5:00pm?!?! How in the world did the club and/or coach pull that off? We have parents whinnying about getting kids their at 6:00pm. My son has to be there at 5 twice a week...my daughter has to be there at 5 once a week and 6 the other day |
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Post by nishnolz93 on Sept 18, 2014 9:43:35 GMT -5
A couple of suggestions: Ask the coach what he/she felt your son did well in addition to areas of improvement, this will give you tangible things to work on next year if he wants to try out again, I'm surprised many parents do not take advantage of this opportunity to get feedback that could benefit their child, maybe you did, not to imply you didn't but in my experience in ODP parents don't seem to ask. Some kids don't show well in a tryout setting for various reasons, some of which may not be of their own doing however I would encourage kids to make themselves visible, be vocal (in a positive way), be proactive during games (not waiting for something to happen) and maximize every opportunity to be productive when they get the ball. Some players may be passive during the game and that's the only real opportunity they have to make an impression. As much as the coaches try to get it right players can get overlooked, it happens at all levels of sports, even in the pro's when they have done background checks and scouted players for years. There are opportunities to get a second look once the teams are picked, I would encourage your coach and or DOC to reach out if you feel your son is capable. We had three boys make the state pool after getting a second look and one was an impact player. Parents complain about politics and lobbying but in my six years of being involved in ODP no one has ever told me I had to take a particular player, additionally a coaches credibility is on the line if he/she recommends someone and they don't deliver, coaches will be less likely to take input from that individual in the future. Just remember every situation is an opportunity for personal growth, even the setbacks, framed correctly a potential roadblock can be a catalyst to push a player beyond what he/she may think they are capable of. Hopefully everything will work out and best of luck I am so glad that I read your post. I tracked down the lead evaluator and he remembered exactly who my daughter was! He gave very positive feedback. He was extremely helpful and his feedback was just what my daughter needed to hear (that she was noticed and now needs to get that "stand out" factor working). Tryouts was a very positive experience and a great life's lesson for her. Thanks again! |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 18, 2014 9:52:36 GMT -5
A couple of suggestions: Ask the coach what he/she felt your son did well in addition to areas of improvement, this will give you tangible things to work on next year if he wants to try out again, I'm surprised many parents do not take advantage of this opportunity to get feedback that could benefit their child, maybe you did, not to imply you didn't but in my experience in ODP parents don't seem to ask. Some kids don't show well in a tryout setting for various reasons, some of which may not be of their own doing however I would encourage kids to make themselves visible, be vocal (in a positive way), be proactive during games (not waiting for something to happen) and maximize every opportunity to be productive when they get the ball. Some players may be passive during the game and that's the only real opportunity they have to make an impression. As much as the coaches try to get it right players can get overlooked, it happens at all levels of sports, even in the pro's when they have done background checks and scouted players for years. There are opportunities to get a second look once the teams are picked, I would encourage your coach and or DOC to reach out if you feel your son is capable. We had three boys make the state pool after getting a second look and one was an impact player. Parents complain about politics and lobbying but in my six years of being involved in ODP no one has ever told me I had to take a particular player, additionally a coaches credibility is on the line if he/she recommends someone and they don't deliver, coaches will be less likely to take input from that individual in the future. Just remember every situation is an opportunity for personal growth, even the setbacks, framed correctly a potential roadblock can be a catalyst to push a player beyond what he/she may think they are capable of. Hopefully everything will work out and best of luck I am so glad that I read your post. I tracked down the lead evaluator and he remembered exactly who my daughter was! He gave very positive feedback. He was extremely helpful and his feedback was just what my daughter needed to hear (that she was noticed and now needs to get that "stand out" factor working). Tryouts was a very positive experience and a great life's lesson for her. Thanks again! They told you last night whether she made it or not? |
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Post by nishnolz93 on Sept 18, 2014 10:25:27 GMT -5
No, my daughter didn't make the prelims cut. I asked for feedback after that.
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Post by nishnolz93 on Sept 18, 2014 10:26:18 GMT -5
But, the pools are now posted on Georgia Soccer.
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 18, 2014 12:42:52 GMT -5
yes, except for the 01's.
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Post by soccerfan30 on Sept 18, 2014 14:21:04 GMT -5
A couple of suggestions: Ask the coach what he/she felt your son did well in addition to areas of improvement, this will give you tangible things to work on next year if he wants to try out again, I'm surprised many parents do not take advantage of this opportunity to get feedback that could benefit their child, maybe you did, not to imply you didn't but in my experience in ODP parents don't seem to ask. Some kids don't show well in a tryout setting for various reasons, some of which may not be of their own doing however I would encourage kids to make themselves visible, be vocal (in a positive way), be proactive during games (not waiting for something to happen) and maximize every opportunity to be productive when they get the ball. Some players may be passive during the game and that's the only real opportunity they have to make an impression. As much as the coaches try to get it right players can get overlooked, it happens at all levels of sports, even in the pro's when they have done background checks and scouted players for years. There are opportunities to get a second look once the teams are picked, I would encourage your coach and or DOC to reach out if you feel your son is capable. We had three boys make the state pool after getting a second look and one was an impact player. Parents complain about politics and lobbying but in my six years of being involved in ODP no one has ever told me I had to take a particular player, additionally a coaches credibility is on the line if he/she recommends someone and they don't deliver, coaches will be less likely to take input from that individual in the future. Just remember every situation is an opportunity for personal growth, even the setbacks, framed correctly a potential roadblock can be a catalyst to push a player beyond what he/she may think they are capable of. Hopefully everything will work out and best of luck I am so glad that I read your post. I tracked down the lead evaluator and he remembered exactly who my daughter was! He gave very positive feedback. He was extremely helpful and his feedback was just what my daughter needed to hear (that she was noticed and now needs to get that "stand out" factor working). Tryouts was a very positive experience and a great life's lesson for her. Thanks again! I'm glad I could help and that your daughter had a positive experience at tryouts. I know people question some coaches selection process but having been involved with ODP the last six years I can honestly say that most of the coaches I know and myself always want to try "to get it right" and don't have any ulterior motives/agenda. It's not a perfect science, kids mature physically and emotionally at different rates, some may be a super star at 11/12 and fall back to the pack by the time they reach 14/15, conversely I've seen some late bloomers really shine once they reach high school age. I encourage players to get feedback during the tryout process and really focus on those areas in case they want to try out again next year, like I said before every hurdle is an opportunity to get better provided it's framed in the proper manner. |
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Post by silverback on Sept 19, 2014 12:36:38 GMT -5
It also good to understand the selection process. Caveat - if it has changed, please let us know. I wouldn't want to post something that is incorrect.
ODP coaches evaluate/rate players during the short field games. Based on those rating, they will pull out the ones who really stand out. They then separate the remaining based on their scores/ratings. The ones who scored higher are asked to go to one side and the others are asked to go to the other side so they can play full field games. (note - if you only play on one field, they put the ones who scored higher out first). Anyway, if you do well on the field with the higher rated players, you are typically pulled out and asked to go with the first group they pulled. If you do well on the field with the lower rated players, they will move you to the other field and again, if you do well, you will be asked to sit with the other players that have already been pulled. At the end of the night, the players who are typically sitting and watching will be your ODP state team.
IMO, it's a fair process and they do their best. It's not easy to evaluate so many kids and the coaches will miss a few. When that happens, they will often ask your player to come back at their first official practice to re-evaluate. So if you don't think your player performed their best, have your club coach call the ODP coach and they can typically get another evaluation. Or as posts above suggest, call the coach yourself and get feedback. In some cases, they may just ask you to come back right then and there. But caution - if you are calling, my suggestion is to make it positive and not get offensive (i.e., you think your player should have made it, etc, etc, and so on). In the end, their goal is identification and they do the best they can.
If it has changed, please update us. I think many parents need to understand the process and that there is a method to their madness.
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 19, 2014 12:43:30 GMT -5
It also good to understand the selection process. Caveat - if it has changed, please let us know. I wouldn't want to post something that is incorrect. ODP coaches evaluate/rate players during the short field games. Based on those rating, they will pull out the ones who really stand out. They then separate the remaining based on their scores/ratings. The ones who scored higher are asked to go to one side and the others are asked to go to the other side so they can play full field games. (note - if you only play on one field, they put the ones who scored higher out first). Anyway, if you do well on the field with the higher rated players, you are typically pulled out and asked to go with the first group they pulled. If you do well on the field with the lower rated players, they will move you to the other field and again, if you do well, you will be asked to sit with the other players that have already been pulled. At the end of the night, the players who are typically sitting and watching will be your ODP state team. IMO, it's a fair process and they do their best. It's not easy to evaluate so many kids and the coaches will miss a few. When that happens, they will often ask your player to come back at their first official practice to re-evaluate. So if you don't think your player performed their best, have your club coach call the ODP coach and they can typically get another evaluation. Or as posts above suggest, call the coach yourself and get feedback. In some cases, they may just ask you to come back right then and there. But caution - if you are calling, my suggestion is to make it positive and not get offensive (i.e., you think your player should have made it, etc, etc, and so on). In the end, their goal is identification and they do the best they can. If it has changed, please update us. I think many parents need to understand the process and that there is a method to their madness. That sounds about right! |
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