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Post by corditedad on Feb 26, 2023 15:19:58 GMT -5
I can count on one hand the number of games where the referee has been physically fit and/or has attempted to run to keep up with the pace of play. That is over the past three years of high school soccer. It’s maddening to watch a ref consistently make poor calls or miss calls entirely because the have no desire to do more than loaf along the sideline. Why are most high school refs dramatically over weight or out of shape? It’s not this way with most of the club soccer referee. |
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Post by rifle on Feb 26, 2023 15:26:26 GMT -5
I can count on one hand the number of games where the referee has been physically fit and/or has attempted to run to keep up with the pace of play. That is over the past three years of high school soccer. It’s maddening to watch a ref consistently make poor calls or miss calls entirely because the have no desire to do more than loaf along the sideline. Why are most high school refs dramatically over weight or out of shape? It’s not this way with most of the club soccer referee. Probably because the players at HS age are a huge pain in the posterior. They are invincible and all knowing - ie. They are teenagers. Then throw in students and parents in the stands. I’m surprised ANYONE wants to work HS games. Edit: nevermind 17-18yo boys run like deer. good luck to anyone trying to “keep up”. |
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Post by soccerloafer on Feb 26, 2023 17:10:21 GMT -5
I can count on one hand the number of games where the referee has been physically fit and/or has attempted to run to keep up with the pace of play. That is over the past three years of high school soccer. It’s maddening to watch a ref consistently make poor calls or miss calls entirely because the have no desire to do more than loaf along the sideline. Why are most high school refs dramatically over weight or out of shape? It’s not this way with most of the club soccer referee. I've worked over 20 games so far this season, on pace for 50-60. I can count on one hand the number of games where one of my partners was not physically fit and was a liability. And no, we can't keep up with the pace of the boys - the key is to anticipate and keep running... As a fit 50-something, I can catch the JV girls, run with the JV boys and Varsity girls, and watch the backs of the Varsity boys as they sprint ahead. There are some unfit folks out there. But the majority are reasonably fit and able to stay close enough to play. |
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Post by Respect on Feb 26, 2023 19:16:55 GMT -5
I've worked over 20 games so far this season, on pace for 50-60. I can count on one hand the number of games where one of my partners was not physically fit and was a liability. And no, we can't keep up with the pace of the boys - the key is to anticipate and keep running... As a fit 50-something, I can catch the JV girls, run with the JV boys and Varsity girls, and watch the backs of the Varsity boys as they sprint ahead. There are some unfit folks out there. But the majority are reasonably fit and able to stay close enough to play. While some older referees are not in the best shape to keep up with the players, still consider giving them some appreciation and support while you are out there. Believe me when I say all are there to support the game (you and everyone involved), know the LOTGs and GHSA rules, and fill a void because all they want is for your children to have the opportunity to play the sport they love. Many are there even despite existing physical pain and injuries they carry with them. Also, consider that many of them referee 6-8 games a week, two per night, while your children only play 2 a week, one per night, and many do not even play the full time. In one typical 2-game night (AR/CR) you can easily log 8+ miles. This takes a toll on knees and ankles more so when the season is compressed, and especially if you are older. If you would like to see more and better fit referees, increasing the pay, adding medical insurance benefits, reducing the workload, adding more referees, and/or extending the season will help. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Feb 27, 2023 8:11:46 GMT -5
I can count on one hand the number of games where the referee has been physically fit and/or has attempted to run to keep up with the pace of play. That is over the past three years of high school soccer. It’s maddening to watch a ref consistently make poor calls or miss calls entirely because the have no desire to do more than loaf along the sideline. Why are most high school refs dramatically over weight or out of shape? It’s not this way with most of the club soccer referee. Probably because the players at HS age are a huge pain in the posterior. They are invincible and all knowing - ie. They are teenagers. Then throw in students and parents in the stands. I’m surprised ANYONE wants to work HS games. Edit: nevermind 17-18yo boys run like deer. good luck to anyone trying to “keep up”. Bingo on all of that. I am overweight, but I can keep up with most girls teams and the lower boys teams, but once they get to the boys especially around U16-U17 age and up good luck. My son can do it but he is that age. Me not so much. It isn't that I am out of shape. For my age I am in decent shape even with being overweight. There is just no way I'm keeping up with the Varsity boys or Club U16-U19 boys in most situations. I don't know many adult referees that can. The reasons you stated for not refereeing HS games is exactly why I don't do it along with not willing to do the 2-man system. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Feb 27, 2023 8:13:20 GMT -5
While some older referees are not in the best shape to keep up with the players, still consider giving them some appreciation and support while you are out there. Believe me when I say all are there to support the game (you and everyone involved), know the LOTGs and GHSA rules, and fill a void because all they want is for your children to have the opportunity to play the sport they love. Many are there even despite existing physical pain and injuries they carry with them. Also, consider that many of them referee 6-8 games a week, two per night, while your children only play 2 a week, one per night, and many do not even play the full time. In one typical 2-game night (AR/CR) you can easily log 8+ miles. This takes a toll on knees and ankles more so when the season is compressed, and especially if you are older. If you would like to see more and better fit referees, increasing the pay, adding medical insurance benefits, reducing the workload, adding more referees, and/or extending the season will help. Hell I feel it just working 5-6 Club games in a day. I can't imagine doing that 2x a night for 4-5 nights a week. A tournament weekend, I am sore and in pain for at least 2 days after doing 2 all day type events. No matter what they pay, the pay is not worth the amount of soreness I have afterwards. I do it because I love the game not for the money, though the money does help even when it isn't enough. |
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Post by flamengo100 on Mar 1, 2023 8:56:11 GMT -5
What is the Overtime rules in Varsity soccer for non region games? I've noticed some non region games go to OT. For example- two home games at River Ridge boys vs Alpharetta and Blessed Trinity. I've seen other non region games just end in a tie.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Mar 1, 2023 9:16:23 GMT -5
What is the Overtime rules in Varsity soccer for non region games? I've noticed some non region games go to OT. For example- two home games at River Ridge boys vs Alpharetta and Blessed Trinity. I've seen other non region games just end in a tie. From my understanding, it is up to the coaches, and it is usually discussed before the game starts. They can end in a tie, play OT followed by PKs, or just skip directly to PKs. Over the past 4 years I have been present at games for all 3 scenarios. |
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Post by fanatic21 on Mar 1, 2023 9:36:11 GMT -5
If teams are in the same classification, they have to go to OT if they are tied. RR, Alpha, and BT are all in 6A. If in different classifications, coaches decide before the game and tell the refs what they want.
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